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Compensatory Threshold Date hits, will TT sign anyone?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Pokerbrat2000, May 12, 2016.

  1. Pokerbrat2000

    Pokerbrat2000 Opinions are like A-holes, we all have one.

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  2. tynimiller

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    Kuhn is the only one left of our own I think we sign. Outside of him, and no injuries occurring at camp...I don't see us grabbing anyone else.....perhaps a vet OL for a year but doubt that even.
     
  3. captainWIMM

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    I don´t think there are any free agents available Thompson should be interested in. Brandon Marshall might be the only exception but the Packers would have to give up a second round pick to sign him so it won´t happen. It´s possible Kuhn will be brought back for close to the veteran minimum.
     
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    Pokerbrat2000 Opinions are like A-holes, we all have one.

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    Agreed, not only a second round pick, but a big contract to boot.

    Side Note: I was someone who liked Danny Trevathan, but was a little unsure if he was as valuable as what the Bears paid him (4 year/ $24,500,000), given the talent around him on that Bronco Defense. I guess we will find out (twice) in 2016. I never looked at the details of his contract until today...WOW...nasty dead cap hit this year.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/danny-trevathan/
     
  5. captainWIMM

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    Well, the Bears will for sure not release him this season.
     
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    Can't see anyone other than Kuhn on a cheap one year deal. Let's see who shakes loose on the cut lists.
    Can't find any mention of interest in Neal, by the Packers or anyone else.
     
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    The Cards have some interesting depth at OLB- Babin & Woodley. At this stage of their respective careers, they remind me of TT bringing in Peppers. That Cards D may not have a ton of huge names, but they really knew how to bring the pressure. At least those guys would have experience working in rotation to keep it flying. Not sure what they're hoping to get dollars wise, but none of them are mega standouts that look to capitalize on monster FA deals. Could they be a Peppers-esque signing? If so, Peppers, not being the fleetest of foot anymore (at least not like his "line up at WR" days once upon a time), could slide to a down lineman more often.

    The only other guy I see there that is interesting is Chris Canty, who would really be an added boost to our run D in the base package. He's not a pass rush guy by any stretch, but he's played in a few 3-4 schemes and has those classic physical attributes (length with sturdy build) and could be a short term solution at a position I don't think we're that strong in.

    None of them are must have signings, that's for sure. That said, they do have attributes that bolster aspects of our team that no one else seems to offer at the moment (in terms of up and coming talent).
     
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    Speaking of the Cards, Dwight Freeney is letting it be known he'll sign anywhere, although he prefers a winning team.
    Used properly, he could be a real boost to the pass rush and open things up for others .
     
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    Freeney is a TT type signing. But at this stage of Freeney's career, hes just a 3rd down pass rush specialist and thats it.

    But honestly, there is a lot of garbage and grizzled vets out there basically right now. Nothing that really pops out at you. Let our rookies and young'uns play.
     
  11. Pokerbrat2000

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    I know I will take some flack for this, but one guy I wouldn't mind seeing (on the cheap) in Green Bay is Anquan Boldin. After last season, I am not as sold on our current WR group as some are. Obviously, Jordy and Cobb, provided neither get injured, will be day 1 starters. But given the choice between Boldin or either of Adams, Abby, Janis...I would take Boldin as the #3. So where does this leave the rest? #4: Montgomery seems more of a slot player anyway, so he is still stuck behind Cobb. #5 and #6: Let Adams, Abby, Janis and Davis determine who is most worthy of those 2 spots. If Davis doesn't show a whole lot, he can safely be placed on the PS.

    I just think it would be a big plus having a good locker room vet like Boldin on offense. Even though he's 35 and his reception yards in 2015 were his lowest since the 2004 season, most of which can be blamed on a pathetic 49er offense (31st in league), I think he still has a lot in the tank. Boldin is sure-handed and willing to make tough catches anywhere on the field and could set a good example for the Packers younger receivers. As well as Boldin would provide depth for injuries like we saw in 2015.

    Some will say this removes one young player from the developmental loop. Which is true, but at this point, I'm not 100% convinced its worth banking on all 3 of these guys (Adams, Janis, Abby) to be future stars, especially at the expense of potentially less production from the offense on game day. Let them continue to learn in practice, rotational duty and by watching a great WR like Boldin.
     
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    What? You guys missed it? Thompson did sign a free agent. TE Casey Pierce...he was on Detroit's practice squad last season. ;) I guess this is what McCarthy meant when he said we should not be surprised if some free agents are signed.

    By the way, they gave him an H-back number (49) in case anybody's interested. I can't blame you if you aren't.
     
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    Lion fans be like: "OMG HES GONNA GIVE THE PACKERS OUR PLAYBOOK!"
     
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    Which page? 1 0r 2?
     
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    They needed that many pages for "chuck it to Megatron?"
     
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    Just one page for that. Page 2 reads, "Don't get picked!"
     
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    Eliot Wolf mentioned during the draft that Neal has moved on and won´t be back with the Packers.

    Woodley and Babin wouldn´t provide any upgrade at the outside linebacker position at the stage in their careers. Canty might be an improvement on the defensive line but with him turning 34 during the season and not being an All-Pro like Peppers I don´t think Thompson is interested in him.

    While I´m fine with the Packers receiving corps I have to admit that signing Boldin is an intriguing idea. Unfortunately I don´t expect him to agree to a deal close to the veterans minimum. On the other hand the Packers aren´t able to offer him significantly more money.
     
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    Canty is somewhat interesting only from the perspective that, like Steven Jackson, Thompson expressed interest on more than one occasion. I seem to recall Canty coming in for discussions in each of his last 2 free agent periods.

    But he's 34 coming off a torn pectoral that sent him to IR in December, following a calf injury earlier in the season...7 games missed in all. I think this a train that has left the station.

    If the Packers sustained some injuries and Canty's medicals were reasonably clean, he might be the kind of guy for in-season pickup if he's still available in a Howard Green-type move.
    Boldin has been a favorite player of mine. He's a lock for the doing-the-most-with-the-least Hall of Fame, being slow and not particularly athletic. He should eventually be in the actual HOF. Along with Welker, he's one of the few great possession receivers of his generation. Super tough and physical, super competitive, great hands and routes trumping poor athleticism. 83% catches per target, 64% first downs per catch and 54% first downs per target are stupid good over a 13 year career.

    The Packers would not have interest. They have Cobb and Montgomery as possession receivers, and are looking to add speed, not savvy.
     
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    You are correct, hoping to get Boldin for vet min is probably asking too much. However, he has said that he " "wants to play for a team that can compete at the highest level." Sometimes players are willing to take a discount to do such. Cutting Masthay will free up some cap space, but after that things do get tight and some creative things would probably have to be done with other players contracts to sign Boldin. But if I am TT, I am taking a serious look at doing something like this, as it might just be the missing link that the offense needs. Much like what Jordy does for the other receivers, a guy like Boldin will not only give AR a sure receiver, but in the process may just elevate the game of Jordy, Cobb and Cook by requiring defenses to take all 4 targets very seriously. This could also have a positive effect on our run game.
     
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    You may be right about them not having interest in Boldin. However, I think with the return of Jordy and the addition of Cook, speed and stretching the field will be less of an issue then it was last year. Since I view Cobb and Montgomery as slot receivers, I view this more as a question of "would you rather have Boldin lining up wide or one of Adams, Abby or Janis?"
     
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    Boldin would offer a different kind of toughness than Cobb and Montgomery though and might help the Packers deal with press coverage. I don´t expect Thompson to sign him but I would for sure not be mad about it happening.
     
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    There is certainly an intangible mental toughness, will-to-win and step-up-in-the-money-moments atitude that this team could use in the locker room and on the field.

    I'd be quite surprised if it happened.
     
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    One other thought on Boldin and maybe his mindset. Besides Super Bowls (he has 1) and paydays (check mark), what is a big goal of NFL players? Hall of Fame. While his body of work has been pretty darn good, I doubt to this point it has been enough to get him into the HOF. So what does he need to do in his final seasons to take himself to the next level for possible entry into it? Put up some nice stats, be a key figure on a team that wins a Super Bowl (or 2). Who better to help him to do that, then Aaron Rodgers and The Green Bay Packers?
     
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    Unfortunately I think that´s just wishful thinking on your part. While Boldin might want to play for a Super Bowl contender ultimately he will decide to play for the team offering at least close to the most money.
     
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    I like the Boldin idea but if throw money at a slower but good WR...I'd rather just have one with a hoodie flopping around :D
     
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