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How many points for tucker?
7 too few? He actually scored......zero! Tucker hasn't been a big points scorer for the Bucks, but he plays solid defense and had been doing a relatively decent job on KD, up until last night when everything KD threw up went in. Bud should have brought more double teams on him last night, but the Bucks also lost that game by not playing good offense in the second half. They went back to selfish basketball and seemed to panic when they lost their big lead.

Good article on trying to guard KD and his performance of a lifetime last night.

 
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Once again, Bud, Giannis, Middleton and the rest of the Bucks choke in the clutch. KD plays probably a top 5 all time playoff performance and Bud is sticking Middleton or just Tucker on him? Give me a fricking break. Make someone else beat you Bud! So pissed its hard to even contemplate Bud being around another season.
Agreed. He makes no in-game adjustments worth much, Tucker is just a hit man assigned to Durant (huh?) and no double teams on Durant, or none I saw. Even Barkley said at half the Bucks should have been up by 24, and then they should have put it away in Q3. That they were up by 16 at half with all the fouls is amazing. So why couldn't they place at least as well in the 2nd half?

And it seemed like Harden was in the game only to keep his hamstring warm. Still, a performance for the ages by Durant. 48 minutes, 48, points, triple double. Unreal.

One sign of a big improvement, Giannis forgoing the open 3 to pass to Forbes, who made it. That's it though.
 

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How many points for tucker?
Zero. He did poke Harden in the eye though while swatting for a ball he couldn't see. I don't think it was intentional, but geez he got Harden right in his left eye with a finger. That's dangerous.
 

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Once again, Bud, Giannis, Middleton and the rest of the Bucks choke in the clutch. KD plays probably a top 5 all time playoff performance and Bud is sticking Middleton or just Tucker on him? Give me a fricking break. Make someone else beat you Bud! So pissed its hard to even contemplate Bud being around another season.

And why didn't they go at James Harden on offense he's considered terrible on defense when he's healthy...I'm really not sure what the coaches are looking at.

Supposedly Gianis wants to guard KD now...
 

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And why didn't they go at James Harden on offense he's considered terrible on defense when he's healthy...I'm really not sure what the coaches are looking at.

Supposedly Gianis wants to guard KD now...
I think with the stakes so high, it's good that their gonna put Giannis on KD. Hopefully with a healthy amount of double teams, and the Bucks can afford that. Irving is out, and to get to your point about Harden, he was a non-factor. He played almost the whole game, but nowhere near HIS game, with rapid acceleration and deceleration to create open shots. The only reason they didn't sub him out was to keep that hamstring warm. But I'm convinced they'd be better off at this point leaving him on the bench and putting in someone else.

I'm not complaining. Harden in the game in this state of health is more of a liability for the Nets.

I'm just disappointed when the Bucks get away from their team ball - moving and passing to create an open shot - versus their playground style. One guy brings up the ball and that guy is only thinking about scoring. He dribbles a few times and takes whatever shout he can get. Terrible way to win a game, much less a championship. And it's even more of a mystery that somebody doesn't see it (hello Coach Bud) and fix it pronto.

And then lost in all this is Jeff Green going 7-8 from behind the arc. Id he's 50% (still remarkable), 4 of 8, the Bucks win. Anyway, The Nets played better and were coached better. That's gotta change by Thursday night. They'll never have a better chance to beat the Nets and their 3 Kings.
 

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I think with the stakes so high, it's good that their gonna put Giannis on KD. Hopefully with a healthy amount of double teams, and the Bucks can afford that. Irving is out, and to get to your point about Harden, he was a non-factor. He played almost the whole game, but nowhere near HIS game, with rapid acceleration and deceleration to create open shots. The only reason they didn't sub him out was to keep that hamstring warm. But I'm convinced they'd be better off at this point leaving him on the bench and putting in someone else.

I'm not complaining. Harden in the game in this state of health is more of a liability for the Nets.

I'm just disappointed when the Bucks get away from their team ball - moving and passing to create an open shot - versus their playground style. One guy brings up the ball and that guy is only thinking about scoring. He dribbles a few times and takes whatever shout he can get. Terrible way to win a game, much less a championship. And it's even more of a mystery that somebody doesn't see it (hello Coach Bud) and fix it pronto.

And then lost in all this is Jeff Green going 7-8 from behind the arc. Id he's 50% (still remarkable), 4 of 8, the Bucks win. Anyway, The Nets played better and were coached better. That's gotta change by Thursday night. They'll never have a better chance to beat the Nets and their 3 Kings.

Yeah I didn't really get why you put 6-6 pj Tucker on 7 foot Durant...I get he's your defensive specialist but he's just too little to guard Durant all game. Gianis should fare much better

Yeah Greene was game 1 Blake Griffin but like Griffin I don't think he replicates that...

If im the coach I run some iso on James harden some pick n roll. And in general I just make him run around screens all game because he clearly can't run

Somebody on the team has to step up in crunch time and idk if it's Gianis because of the free throws ...Holliday or I guess whoever harden is guarding
 
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I said it after game 1, the Bucks offense has often played so undisciplined and selfish and that is on Bud.

This was eye opening...

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Bucks possessions in Game 5 since tied at 91-91:

Giannis iso
Middleton 3
Giannis iso
Giannis turnover
Jrue iso
Khris iso
Pat 2
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis 2
Middleton iso
Giannis iso
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis iso
Lopez 2
Giannis turnover

11 of the 17 possessions were isos.

That is not team basketball, which is what they were playing in the first half to get the big lead.
 

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I said it after game 1, the Bucks offense has often played so undisciplined and selfish and that is on Bud.

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Bucks possessions in Game 5 since tied at 91-91:

Giannis iso
Middleton 3
Giannis iso
Giannis turnover
Jrue iso
Khris iso
Pat 2
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis 2
Middleton iso
Giannis iso
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis iso
Lopez 2
Giannis turnover

11 of the 17 possessions were isos.

That is not team basketball, which is what they were playing in the first half to get the big lead.

If you're gonna iso a guy you iso james harden and go right by him every time then find a cutter kick out or finish it...how many of those 11 were on harden I wonder ? I know at least one was because I heard homer and tony smith complaining about 34 shooting a fade away when he had harden on him
 
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At least the 76'ers last night did an even bigger choke job (at home) than what the Bucks did Tuesday night. I didn't watch it live but went back and watched the 4th Q. What a total collapse. Much like the Bucks, the 6'ers looked shell shocked and panicked.

I watched the Bucks Tuesday night game at a friends and both of us were wondering why Bud didn't put Giannis on KD and we concluded that Giannis might get into foul trouble and/or KD might be too quick for Giannis. I guess we will find out tonight, because it sounds like Giannis might be on KD at times. Miami's Jimmy Butler scorched the Bucks in the playoffs last year and Bud never adjusted. He wised up and put Giannis on Butler during the playoffs this year and Butler was pretty well silenced. Let's hope tonight we see the same and KD is held under....say......30?
 

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At least the 76'ers last night did an even bigger choke job (at home) than what the Bucks did Tuesday night. I didn't watch it live but went back and watched the 4th Q. What a total collapse. Much like the Bucks, the 6'ers looked shell shocked and panicked.

I watched the Bucks Tuesday night game at a friends and both of us were wondering why Bud didn't put Giannis on KD and we concluded that Giannis might get into foul trouble and/or KD might be too quick for Giannis. I guess we will find out tonight, because it sounds like Giannis might be on KD at times. Miami's Jimmy Butler scorched the Bucks in the playoffs last year and Bud never adjusted. He wised up and put Giannis on Butler during the playoffs this year and Butler was pretty well silenced. Let's hope tonight we see the same and KD is held under....say......30?
I'd be happy if KD is under 30. Happier of course if it results in a win.
 

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I said it after game 1, the Bucks offense has often played so undisciplined and selfish and that is on Bud.

This was eye opening...

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Bucks possessions in Game 5 since tied at 91-91:

Giannis iso
Middleton 3
Giannis iso
Giannis turnover
Jrue iso
Khris iso
Pat 2
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis 2
Middleton iso
Giannis iso
Jrue iso
Giannis iso
Giannis iso
Lopez 2
Giannis turnover

11 of the 17 possessions were isos.

That is not team basketball, which is what they were playing in the first half to get the big lead.
It's mind numbing because they keep doing it. And with a 16 pt half-time lead, I would think it would be easy to stick with it. But as soon as the Nets made a few baskets to get it under 9....... playground ball and panic. Not the mark of a disciplined team and not the mark of a champion. And what good is it to have the talent to win and then play like that? No good at all.
 
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3 Quarters in....Bucks playing well, but WTF is up with Holiday, he looks terrible!
 
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I like the fact that Giannis did not attempt one single 3 point shot last night. He didn't even look like he contemplated taking one. That had to be by design. Sure, it's nice when he actually makes one, but he was 6 of 25 in the series and 1 of 16 in the Heat series. So 7 of 41 in the playoffs, time to let that pipe dream die for the rest of the season.

Middleton was the big difference last night, but as the ESPN broadcast team pointed out, he has been night and day at home VS on the road. He needs to have that type of Game in Brooklyn tomorrow.
 

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Sorry to those that love the NBA. The last team that I enjoyed watching was the early 90's Phoenix Suns team with Barkley, KJ, Danny Ainge, etc. Since then the NBA has slowly become unwatchable for me. First off, the old rules are not followed. Everybody palms the the ball making it easy to break anyone down. Second, it is a game that is impossible to officiate. There are so many violations on every play that if officiated properly would slow the game down even more. A jump ball is hilarious to watch. Outdated. Dropping it from the ceiling would work better. The 3 pointer is too easy of a shot. It needs to be moved back another 10 feet and be removed from the corners. It blows my mind that someone like Giannis can make 3 point shots and then throw up air balls from the free throw line. That's what broke the camels back for me. Seeing so many players either not able to shoot or not care enough to improve. Last thing, whoever came up with it being okay to foul on a breakaway, ruined a big part of the game. It is contrary to basketball. It brings the tempo of the game to a halt. Here's an idea. How about busting your *** down the floor and trying to stop the opposing player. What a concept.
 
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Sorry to those that love the NBA. The last team that I enjoyed watching was the early 90's Phoenix Suns team with Barkley, KJ, Danny Ainge, etc. Since then the NBA has slowly become unwatchable for me. First off, the old rules are not followed. Everybody palms the the ball making it easy to break anyone down. Second, it is a game that is impossible to officiate. There are so many violations on every play that if officiated properly would slow the game down even more. A jump ball is hilarious to watch. Outdated. Dropping it from the ceiling would work better. The 3 pointer is too easy of a shot. It needs to be moved back another 10 feet and be removed from the corners. It blows my mind that someone like Giannis can make 3 point shots and then throw up air balls from the free throw line. That's what broke the camels back for me. Seeing so many players either not able to shoot or not care enough to improve. Last thing, whoever came up with it being okay to foul on a breakaway, ruined a big part of the game. It is contrary to basketball. It brings the tempo of the game to a halt. Here's an idea. How about busting your *** down the floor and trying to stop the opposing player. What a concept.
Sounds like you need to make your own thread...."What I hate about the NBA"....until then...with all due respect, I am going to get back to enjoying the playoffs. :)
 

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That's the easy part. Winning 9 more with coach Bud seems damn near impossible though even if the remaining opponents were all scrub teams

I agree but I guess it'd be 8 more if they can get 1 against the Nets
 

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Bucks game Packers notes:

Z. Smith did the intro crowd hype video just before the Bucks introductions

MLF was in attendance

Did not see A. Jones at game 6....after he made it to the first 2 games
 

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Bucks game Packers notes:

Z. Smith did the intro crowd hype video just before the Bucks introductions

MLF was in attendance

Did not see A. Jones at game 6....after he made it to the first 2 games
That's cool. Thanks Quick!
 

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3 Quarters in....Bucks playing well, but WTF is up with Holiday, he looks terrible!
I don't think Holiday looks terrible. He's better than Bledsoe (well that's a low bar) and he doesn't seem intimidated by the playoffs. He's been pretty bad behind the arc, and that's a surprise. Last night I thought he played a great mid-range game. Nice time for him to put up 30 plus tomorrow night. That in turn should make life easier for Middleton, who IMO is the Bucks MVP in this series.
 

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