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Barnett weighs in at 230lbs.

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by packerbob, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. NelsonsLongCatch

    NelsonsLongCatch Cheesehead

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    I don't think anybody ever questioned Kampman's size. The knock on him from the time he was drafted was that he didn't have the natural talent of a Julius Peppers or stud DE. He was a "high motor" guy. As he and Jared Allen proved, "high motor" guys can become outstanding playes since they never quit on plays.
     
  2. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Maybe it's time to give Bishop his shot. He's been complaining about how he should start. If AJ Hawk is not good enough to see the field vs. Philly, give Bishop his chance.

    BTW, I was totally kidding about the Trotter thing. I just remember him being real, real fat by the end of his career.
     
  3. Kitten

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    I didn't thing you were being serious about Trotter, I was just pulling on your tail, LOL! Had you suggested that 4-5 years ago I would of taken it very seriously as in his day he was a freakin beast. Now he is just an overweight beast.

    I agree with your nod to Bishop! Now that is a dang fine idea!
     
  4. NelsonsLongCatch

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    The funny thing about Trotter is that the Philly defense needed him to be successful. They brought him back like three times. He ran their defense.
     
  5. y5nthon5a

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    People were saying that Obiozor should be with the Pack instead of Zombo, now everyone is talking about him turning into a great player... Which I saw in him all this time, but most haven't....

    Oh and BTW, Obio is with the Cardinals now.
     
  6. y5nthon5a

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    Just like we went 2-6 without him in the final games of the 08 season...
     
  7. y5nthon5a

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    Co-sign making Bishop a starter.
     
  8. JBlood

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    I like the way Bishop flies around and hits, but the problem is his flight patterns aren't always in the right direction.
     
  9. The Drew

    The Drew #packergang

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    Regardless of weight....BARNETT IS A BEAST!! The kid has raw energy and his smarts at the position make up the weight...
     
  10. packerbob

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    How many pro bowls has this beast been to. Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, Brian Urlacker(before his injury) and Clay Mathews are beasts. Barnett is not a game changer. No defensive coordinator is staying up all night worrying how to come up with a plan to stop Barnett. Barnett is not a beast. He is an average linebacker who is undersized to play inside linebacker in the 3/4.
     
  11. armand34

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    Jonathan Vilma No. 51 New Orleans Saints [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linebacker"]Linebacker[/ame] Personal information Date of birth: April 16, 1982 (1982-04-16) (age 28) Place of birth: Coral Gables, Florida Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 230 lb (104 kg) Career information [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_athletic_conferences"]College[/ame]: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Miami"]Miami (Fla.)[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft"]NFL Draft[/ame]: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_NFL_Draft"]2004[/ame] / Round: 1 / Pick: 12

    the jets thought he was undersized too
     
  12. armand34

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    wow, is that a positive comments?

    that was a big whooops! by packerbob
     
  13. PackersRS

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    OH MY GOD!

    YES! Now the Packers will go 4-12 and not 2-14! There are some areas that we're actually good at. Mainly the backup of the backup LOLB.
     
  14. NICKBARNETT

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    Please dont compair clay to barnett that is dumb not taking anything away for clay he is a beast but he has one job rush the passer. yes he does drop into covrage a couple times but mlb is a diffrent job he calls plays, changes them,covers,blitzes. like people have said when he was hurt we were terrible 2-6 thats proof all of you that say he shouldent start or hes to small you have no proof. those of use that support him do.We had the best run d last year he blows people up you cant have the best run d without a great mlb PERIOD.
     
  15. turbo69

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    When we drafted Barnett he was a little light in the ***..........and alls he did was lead the team in tackles a few years. The guy is a stud and I would rather have him than not have him on our team. Now if we picked up one of the top 3 guys coming out in next years draft, I might think differently.
     
  16. NICKBARNETT

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    How is he not a game changer when we went 2-6without him.
     
  17. FrankRizzo

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    AJ Hawk may not be demonstrative, but I think he's physical and has a mean streak. I've seen it. I like it. He'll bend up Cutler or Forte this week on a tackle.
     
  18. turbo69

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    Nice link FrankRizzo. Ine of the comments up there was

    " Will Bulaga be the guy tasked with blocking Julius Peppers next week? Last year, DE Adewale Ogunleye almost beat GB by himself."

    Its funny. I don't think we are going to compare Allen Barbre or whoever was the cause of Ogunleye getting those sacks........to Bulaga. Allen Barbre wore his helmet even when he wasn't playing football. You know. So he wouldn't hurt himself. :happy0005:
     
  19. packerbob

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    I've seen it too. He is very good at taking on blocks and stopping a running back in his tracks. I also think he has good straight line speed and is effective on a delayed blitz. I wish he would have more opportunities to do it. I know what you mean by having a mean streak. I see it in his tackling. I does look like he's really is trying to put on thr hurt. While he has good straight line speed he lacks in lateral quickness. He has bulked up too much since coming out of college and has become too top heavy. It has affected him in pass coverage(probably why they take him out of the nickel and dime packages now). Also the extra bulk has limited his ability to make plays sideline to sideline. It's a shame because that was his strong suit at Ohio State. I haven't given up on him and hope he isn't traded. He is due 10 million in bonus money next year so I think he will be gone unless if he'd be willing to restructure. They need his physicality especially since Barnett, Burnett and Jones are more finesse type players.
     

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