Are we the best team in the NFL right now?

[Legalizeit]

You watching seattle and Philly? Seattle is looking like the champs. It is early ... but I dont see philly winning this game.

similarly, we always bemoaned SF kicking our *** in SF... wait 'til they come to Lambeau we said... yeah...

That's not what I said, this is the first year in a while I've thought we had a chance in hell at beating the Niners.

 

[weeds]

It's 7-7....

Not the score, carl...the defense. No one ever claimed Seattle won a Super Bowl with an offense. Are they beatable? Sure.. THE PACK just haven't done it unless I've missed it.

 

[Carl]

Not the score, carl...the defense. No one ever claimed Seattle won a Super Bowl with an offense. Are they beatable? Sure.. THE PACK just haven't done it unless I've missed it.

Yes, their defense is very good. If we are going to use the Eagles game as a comparison to us though, we were up 30-6 at halftime compared to 10-7. Yes, were at home compared to at Philly, but I don't think Lambeau makes a 21 point difference.

 

[weeds]

Yes, their defense is very good. If we are going to use the Eagles game as a comparison to us though, we were up 30-6 at halftime compared to 10-7. Yes, were at home compared to at Philly, but I don't think Lambeau makes a 21 point difference.

Really can't compare games against common opponents in my opinion. Post hoc ergo propter hoc can't apply ... it's all about matchups and we just don't match up well against SF and the Seahags... Looks like Philly is gonna keep themselves in the game inspite of themselves.

 

[Croak]

Really can't compare games against common opponents in my opinion. Post hoc ergo propter hoc can't apply ... it's all about matchups and we just don't match up well against SF and the Seahags... Looks like Philly is gonna keep themselves in the game inspite of themselves.

Oooh, someone's been learning elementary logic....

 

[Mklangelo]

Not the score, carl...the defense. No one ever claimed Seattle won a Super Bowl with an offense. Are they beatable? Sure.. THE PACK just haven't done it unless I've missed it.

I watched most of that Philadelphia/Seahawks game yesterday.

They claim Russel Wilson is the best game manager in the NFL these days. I agree.

But I saw that guy thread the needle a bunch of times in tight coverage to include several VERY crucial, long 3rd down conversions.
He's much more than a game manager. He had a 99.3 QB rating in that game. 118.8 against SF the week before and 121.6 against AZ in week 12.

 

[sschind]

Oooh, someone's been learning elementary logic....

At least he learned it. Apparently some people haven't

 

[Mklangelo]

Really can't compare games against common opponents in my opinion. Post hoc ergo propter hoc can't apply ... it's all about matchups and we just don't match up well against SF and the Seahags... Looks like Philly is gonna keep themselves in the game inspite of themselves.

I agree 100%. It's all about matchups.

 

[Croak]

At least he learned it. Apparently some people haven't

Just poking a little fun at pedantics...

 

[weeds]

Poke away... I can take it --all fun and all good.

 

[Croak]

Poke away... I can take it --all fun and all good.

Never be afraid to poke back with me. I have a pair of big boy ******* just for this forum now.

 

[grampi]

They are the best IN GB. On the road, I don't think they are...

 

[Raptorman]

Something to think about. The Packer defense has given up 16.2 points per game on average to its NFC North rivals. However, when the Packers are playing outside the division, the Packers defense is giving up 28 points per game on average. And so far, on the road outside the division, 34.6 points per game.

 

[AKCheese]

Not until we beat Seattle
Seriously, people are basically saying we have to have home field to win (I disagree)
What we need is a reliable Defense and a tight end dimension to our offense
Arizona is hanging tough having lost their starting QB and RB, how impressive is that?
Imagine this team without Rodgers AND Lacey!!

The door is wide wide open for this team. They certainly have the best talent on offense, and I think they have a LOT of talent on D as well. Are they tough enough? Do they want it bad enough? We're going to find out

 

[OldSchool101]

Something to think about. The Packer defense has given up 16.2 points per game on average to its NFC North rivals. However, when the Packers are playing outside the division, the Packers defense is giving up 28 points per game on average. And so far, on the road outside the division, 34.6 points per game.

Interesting Info thanks
My answer is also my concern, I also think we are the #1 "home team". I think we rank #2 on neutral turf and #3 or 4 in NFL if we had to play on the road. but then again.. the playoffs are not this week so its irrelevant.
I also think the D stats are skewed.. meaning we have put teams in a situation where we played "prevent" and they played ultra risky to catch up while we played slightly conservative on the other side, but your stats are what concern me.. we are poised to go all the way if we are a #1 seed.. but we have work to do if we play any road games

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Something to think about. The Packer defense has given up 16.2 points per game on average to its NFC North rivals. However, when the Packers are playing outside the division, the Packers defense is giving up 28 points per game on average. And so far, on the road outside the division, 34.6 points per game.

While the stat is concerning three games aren´t a great sample size.

 

[Croak]

Something to think about. The Packer defense has given up 16.2 points per game on average to its NFC North rivals. However, when the Packers are playing outside the division, the Packers defense is giving up 28 points per game on average. And so far, on the road outside the division, 34.6 points per game.

You know why I like reading your posts Raptor? You play the forum "super-ego". When we would like to let our impulses run amuck and say how wonderful the Packers are, you always chime in to keep us grounded. There are times when this year's team looks brilliant, then somewhere in the same game they'll turn around and give you some real head scratching moments. While my impulse is to say the Packers are the best team; you rationally remind me that there are some troubling trends that could make things difficult in a few weeks. It just amazes me that the Vikings allow someone with a little sense to be their fan. I swear, you'd make a brilliant Packer fan.

 

[yooperpackfan]

You know why I like reading your posts Raptor? You play the forum "super-ego". When we would like to let our impulses run amuck and say how wonderful the Packers are, you always chime in to keep us grounded. There are times when this year's team looks brilliant, then somewhere in the same game they'll turn around and give you some real head scratching moments. While my impulse is to say the Packers are the best team; you rationally remind me that there are some troubling trends that could make things difficult in a few weeks. It just amazes me that the Vikings allow someone with a little sense to be their fan. I swear, you'd make a brilliant Packer fan.

If he was a Packers fan saying this stuff, no matter how true, he would get ridden out of town on a rail.

 

[Mklangelo]

I hate bringing that "Best Team" stuff up, but we are going to hear it in the press all week.

Thoughts? Are we?

No. And I really don't know who that is. It's a circular argument.

 

[Carl]

If he was a Packers fan saying this stuff, no matter how true, he would get ridden out of town on a rail.

The difference is Raptor always uses rational thoughts compared to some of the constantly negative fans here.

 

[yooperpackfan]

The difference is Raptor always uses rational thoughts compared to some of the constantly negative fans here.

I've seen some pretty sound reasoning get shouted down by certain angry posters because they percieved those thoughts to be anti Packers.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I've seen some pretty sound reasoning get shouted down by certain angry posters because they percieved those thoughts to be anti Packers.

There are always moderators to talk to if you feel roughhoused .

 

[Croak]

There are always moderators to talk to if you feel roughhoused .

Hey Moderator, I feel roughhoused by a certain Welshman from Birmingham...

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Hey Moderator, I feel roughhoused by a certain Welshman from Birmingham...

Tell it to somebody who cares....

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Not sure any team that lost by 21 to the Saints just a few games ago could be considered the "best". Packers are certainly one of the better teams, but not the best.