Kitten
Feline Cheesehead
Have you read something I haven't? What is their suspicion? If they have some reason let's hear it. I haven't heard anything. If they have some concrete evidence or sufficient basis they would care to articulate I would love to hear it. It seems like you are simply choosing to believe what the players are saying without requiring any proof of their need to see the books, and yes, I side with the owners because they are just doing what every other business/person does with their own finances. If you don't think so, let me ask when you will show all of your financial records for the last 10 years to your employees/creditors/whomever.
Nope, I haven't read anything different. I'm simply trying to find logic in all of this. I think the last offer made to the players before the lockout was more than decent, for the players to refuse the offer and still demand to see the books leads me to think something else is up. That is purely my opinion on the matter. As to what that suspicion is (granted such a suspicion exists in the first place) I have no idea what it might be.
Kitten,
You continue to contend the NFLPA is justified in asking for ten years of financial records without laying out a logical reason for it. Why do you think they are justified for this request when the last CBA extension happened in 2006? Just saying the NFLPA must have a good reason isn’t an argument or a justification, is it? You seem to be arguing only the NFL owners can be unreasonable in this negotiation.
And whether or not your employer has ever given you a reason to question their books is not the issue since you would not be given access to them. If you believe you are being underpaid and your employer disagrees, your remedy is to seek employment elsewhere.
For what logical reason would they have to refuse a damn fine offer, continue to press to see 10 years worth of records and thusly cause a lockout? That's the question I was trying to seek the answer to. As I am neither a player nor an owner, I don't know why they think they need to see them. Perhaps just to rule them out of their argument so they can move on with negotiations? Is this going to become the brick wall, the issue both sides refuse to budge on? I hope not. Those books exist not only to keep an employer's own records and accounts, but to cover their tails in the event of a dispute. Being an employer bears great responsibility and you are subject to accountability in times such as these. To be honest, I'm not fully sold on the idea that any employer should have to disclose their books just because somebody wants to see them. I think the owners should show them, not because anyone is justified in requesting them, but because it would draw a quick end to the players argument. I am on the side of the players, you gathered that already. But honestly, I think this whole lockout nonsense is deplorable and shameful to say the least. I think the thing we can all agree upon, regardless if you are for the owners or players, is we all want a resolution that would be acceptable to both sides so we can get back to talking football.