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Jolly's spin move on the INT was Lacy-like! I think his performance last night bought him a roster spot.
As good as our D was all regular season, we were torched against the Arizona Cardinals in the postseason that year as we have pretty much every season with Capers at the helm outside of the Super Bowl season. Should be interesting!
Huh?????? Dissappointed? Are you kidding?Please don't take this as me not being happy for Jolly, I'm ecstatic thathe's managed to turn his life around, but is no else disappointed that a guy who was out of football for three years is illustrating just how poor pur dline picks have played the past few years? He'll be on the team and he'll make the team better but a guy like him ahould make the team for depth purposes, not as one of the team's more impactful players.
Huh?????? Dissappointed? Are you kidding?
I would suggest a new more appropriate username: "CloudyDayPacker"
As stated more than a few times by TT, big men with strength and feet are very rare. I for one am very happy to have him on the team and making an impact.
Huh?????? Dissappointed? Are you kidding?
I would suggest a new more appropriate username: "CloudyDayPacker"
As stated more than a few times by TT, big men with strength and feet are very rare. I for one am very happy to have him on the team and making an impact.
Name our DL picks and the rounds they were drafted in. Neal is still one of the best pass rushers on the team, if not the best, Daniels is looking good in his second year, Worthy is injured and rebuilding his body, Wilson is now a solid run defender, Boyd is a rookie, Raji is at least an average DT. Wynn busted, Guy is fighting for a spot in IND after getting signed off our PS. Seems like if anything, the higher we draft these guys the less spectacular they are.Think you should go back and re-read what I wrote. I'm not disappointed in Jolly making the team, I'm disappointed that our picks along the dline have put the team in a position where he is one of the better players. Facing the reality that TT's dline draft picks have been underwhelming isn't pessimistic, it's facing reality. I'm sorry if my comments disagreed with your more rosy view of our dline.
Let's not forget that Jolly was turning into a premier DL when he got suspended. Off for three years or not, the guy still is that caliber of player so I don't think it's an indictment of our current players. It's a product of how good Jolly was and appears to still be.
That said, I have no doubt that Jolly will wear down towards the end of the season. He will rotate in (hopefully) to keep his legs fresh. He's showing it all now to make the roster but those legs won't have the endurance to play a full season and beyond. However, I think that Jolly's heart and enthusiasm will reap huge benefits not just on the defensive line but throughout the defense. Everyone wondered who would take up the role of defensive leader when we let Woodson go into free agency. Clay Matthews rightly annointed himself that guy, but you may quickly see Jolly step into that role with Matthews. Redemption and inspiration are powerful tools in sports and beyond.
Think you should go back and re-read what I wrote. I'm not disappointed in Jolly making the team, I'm disappointed that our picks along the dline have put the team in a position where he is one of the better players.
If Jolly was a mediocre player, you might have a point, but he's not. He's a very good player who makes plays.
Jolly will be a positive for the team this year. However, don't let the good story override history. Jolly was terrific at knocking down passes, that's about it. In 2009 he played 807 snaps and pressured the QB 18 times (for comparison, Jenkins that year in 7 fewer snaps pressured the QB 40 times). His ability to stop the run was simply average that year (PFF rated him a -0.6).
That being said, I hope he does become an impact player for this team. But don't try and rewrite history to make him something he wasn't.
I'd take 1 pass defended over 2 or 3 pressures. There is a concrete negative outcome for the opponent (an incomplete pass or an interception) with a pass defended. We saw Jolly cause one INT in preseason. A pressure could mean something or nothing.
Guys who regularly knock down passes at the line are usually guys who make a habit of trying to knock down passes when they know they're not getting to the QB...this can disrupt throwing lanes whether or not the ball is knocked down, a factor that cannot be measured.
I like that Jolly made the team. It has nothing to do with his performance from 3 years ago or some sentimental feelings arising from the hoped for bad-makes-good story. I like that Jolly made the team because he made a lot of plays in not a lot of snaps in this preseason.
Who would you rather have when playing Brady/Manning/Ryan, a guy with 10 blocked passes in 17 games or a guy with 10 sacks in those 17 games?
The popcorn man is back ! Pass the salt please.