Oshkoshpackfan
YUT !!!
^ indeed....I agree that our guys get OVERPAID.
LMAO.....Bill.....another finley thread?? This is awesome.
There was somethin under the NFC North blog section on espn.go that said something like: If he gets asked to restuctur his deal to save cap space, then he will "walk" from GB.
And despite 273 Finley threads and 175,238 posts, press reports are being misquoted.
Im pretty proud of this actually. From 2011.
Ivo, lemme just say this, you are the first person I've seen that thinks our offense is better without Finley.
Everyone else, all the national pundits, the local media guys, and other fans, think that he's a tremenduous weapon and makes our offense better. He was voted in the top 10 TEs by ESPN.com, He was listed as a top 10 Ted Thompson draft pick by Wilde, Rodgers himself said he has the best hands in the team and is the best weapon...
I think you're the only one that wants to trade him, and certainly the only one that thinks the offense is better without him...
This isn't really even a matter of speculation. When Finley was out long term with his injury year before last I think it was, the offense indeed did get better.
Yeah and I got hammered for saying it. People were in an uproar when I suggested trading him after the 2010 season.
was that aimed at me ??? I was joking with the guy, and I`M a Packer fan tooOne should not enter the PACKER forums and spout bulls*&t. Do not dis the people who are ACTUAL fans. *******.
And despite 273 Finley threads and 175,238 posts, press reports are being misquoted.
Oh wow, ya got me there......BURN.....
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/53622/dreaming-jermichael-finley-and-the-bears
wow, that was soooo far off in left field huh?
I understand the acrimony aimed at Finley by Packers fans and I understand fans who don’t think Finley is worth the $8M+ he’s due this year under his current deal. What I don’t understand is fans who think he should accept less from the Packers for this coming season. If the Packers don’t think he’s worth the $8M+ they’ll release him before his $3M bonus is due on the 27th and he can get fair market value for his services. That’s the deal the Packers struck with Finley: Either pay him the $8M+ or he becomes a UFA.
From Finley’s point of view, if the Packers pay him the bonus he’ll get the $8M+ but risk a career ending injury. And the Packers could tag him next year, preventing him from getting a long-term deal. Or the Packers waive him and he can get the long-term security he’s after. And IMO it’s a sure bet he’d get more than the $8M in guaranteed money. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not feeling sorry for Finley if the Packers “make him” accept $8M+ for the coming season with no long-term security, just presenting it from his point of view.
Before the 27th, the Packers can negotiate a long-term deal with Finley and lessen his cap number this year. But if they do they’ll have to pay him about market value.
Whats fair market value for him though?
Exactly. This is the situation discussed in the thread about QB contracts - the high amount in the last year or so not likely to get paid. That's true when the guy is either old and fading or young but disappointing - like Finley.
If you were a GM of an NFL team and Finley were a UFA that would be your assessment of his value but that alone doesn’t set market value. Fortunately or unfortunately depending upon your point of view, in the NFL a player’s market value (“fair” or not) is set by the team willing to pay him the most money. The deal the Packers struck with him was to pay him under his current deal or let him find that highest bidder.He should be making at most $4 mil a year.
I can understand paying what amounts to double for a 1 yr contract. But when gronk gets a long term deal recently and gets 6.5 mil on avg over the life of the contract I look at Finleys $8 contract and cringe.If you were a GM of an NFL team and Finley were a UFA that would be your assessment of his value but that alone doesn’t set market value. Fortunately or unfortunately depending upon your point of view, in the NFL a player’s market value (“fair” or not) is set by the team willing to pay him the most money. The deal the Packers struck with him was to pay him under his current deal or let him find that highest bidder.
If Ted Thompson shares your opinion of Finley’s value he should waive him before the 27th and let him test the market. If you’re right the Packers would perhaps be in the bidding for his services and sign him to a reasonable deal. (That’s what happened with Jones except he was a UFA to begin with.) But Finley is young, presents matchup problems for Ds, and is full of potential. In the NFL I believe that gets him more than $4M/year from at least one GM. Again, I’ve seen Finley’s immaturity play out on the field and off it. He hasn’t been consistent and I’ve seen the Packers win a title without him. I think the Packers could survive on offense without Finley and Jennings but I don’t think Mike McCarthy shares that opinion. We’ll soon find out how the Packers value Finley.
Finley grades out to 41st in the pass and 47th overall among TEs. Yikes. He just isn't that good.
Yeah, I'm glad you found those numbers. I have been taking a dump on finley all of last season and getting flammed for doing so. He is not that damn good, average at best is what I have said. Why cant people see that? We will end up paying good cap space to a sugar frosted turd.
All you hear about is potential. But at what point is it not unused potential and do people realize he just is what you see. Then the argument comes out that he is double covered. Yet other TEs still produce... Finley? Not so much.
I'm going to laugh when some idiot GM pays him crazy money.