What's the biggest need right now, and why?

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The draft has gone by, and we added some depth at a few spots, so what's left? Feel free to offer solutions to fill the remaining needs -realistically-.

I think we could still use another RB(not that it's our most needed, but I'm interested in it), we have Grant, Jackson, Lumpkin, and Starks right now right? I would say to cut Jackson(he's had a few years now and hasn't proven much) and give Brian Westbrook a 1yr deal. I don't know how much he's looking to get as a FA, but it shouldn't be much considering his injuries. As a backup he'd be a little less likely to get hurt, and -could- gives us an above average back-up. What does everyone else think?
 

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The draft has gone by, and we added some depth at a few spots, so what's left? Feel free to offer solutions to fill the remaining needs -realistically-.

I think we could still use another RB(not that it's our most needed, but I'm interested in it), we have Grant, Jackson, Lumpkin, and Starks right now right? I would say to cut Jackson(he's had a few years now and hasn't proven much) and give Brian Westbrook a 1yr deal. I don't know how much he's looking to get as a FA, but it shouldn't be much considering his injuries. As a backup he'd be a little less likely to get hurt, and -could- gives us an above average back-up. What does everyone else think?

Jackson is the best blitz pickup back we have, and that is nothing to take lightly looking back at the first half of last season with our Oline.

While he cannot run to save his life, he can catch, better than grant, and the blitz pickup means hes going nowhere yet. What we need is a true #1 who can be supplemented by Grant, not the other way around.

Westbrook is not the answer, and with another concussion will become the poster-boy for not knowing the answers... to ANYTHING. I know many are thinking "yeah, but he had a great season less than 2 years ago", which is true, but he is also over the magical RB # of 30, which is like the 200k mark on a car...

Even if the car has been meticulously maintained and its all highway miles, are you going to fork over good money for a car with that many miles on it? Im willing to bet many would not, and nobody would fault you for it. It shows the insight into knowing that the chances are it will break down sooner rather than later.

I have mentioned Lynch from BUF before, and think that if we were smart, we would package a LB (one that is solid, yet would not be missed sorely... I think we all know who HE is...), a 3rd rounder next year (which will be like a high 4th) and one of our RBs NOT named Grant.

Also, for GODs Sakes, can we PLEASE find a Punter?!@!]

I would not shy away from Pacman Jones for a low amount and take that low risk/ high reward to the bank.

All that being said, I see none of the above happening
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Jackson is the best blitz pickup back we have, and that is nothing to take lightly looking back at the first half of last season with our Oline.

While he cannot run to save his life, he can catch, better than grant, and the blitz pickup means hes going nowhere yet. What we need is a true #1 who can be supplemented by Grant, not the other way around.

Westbrook is not the answer, and with another concussion will become the poster-boy for not knowing the answers... to ANYTHING. I know many are thinking "yeah, but he had a great season less than 2 years ago", which is true, but he is also over the magical RB # of 30, which is like the 200k mark on a car...

Even if the car has been meticulously maintained and its all highway miles, are you going to fork over good money for a car with that many miles on it? Im willing to bet many would not, and nobody would fault you for it. It shows the insight into knowing that the chances are it will break down sooner rather than later.

I have mentioned Lynch from BUF before, and think that if we were smart, we would package a LB (one that is solid, yet would not be missed sorely... I think we all know who HE is...), a 3rd rounder next year (which will be like a high 4th) and one of our RBs NOT named Grant.

Also, for GODs Sakes, can we PLEASE find a Punter?!@!]

I would not shy away from Pacman Jones for a low amount and take that low risk/ high reward to the bank.

All that being said, I see none of the above happening
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Highly doubt that Buff lets Lynch go anyways. They need a second back to Spiller and Jackson(29) is almost 30 so he is almost over that magical age as well and Lynch is only 24.
 

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Highly doubt that Buff lets Lynch go anyways. They need a second back to Spiller and Jackson(29) is almost 30 so he is almost over that magical age as well and Lynch is only 24.

The only difference is that Lynch has burned his bridges in BUF, Jackson is getting older, but he is their player, and Spiller is going to become the featured in that system. That combined with the fact that Spiller and Jackson are different types of runners, Jackson would become a player to fall back on (plus he is the highest paid RB on the roster, they arent cutting him loose this season).

They drafted 3 RBs for a reason. Lynch is the one who will be out, simply due to not having enough balls to go around, and the character issues vs Jackson.
 
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To me if Jackson's biggest skill is his blitz pick-up why not just stick a FB back there if thats all he's going to do? I would think a much larger FB could do as good or better at blitz pick-up.
 

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I do agree that a punter is needed pretty bad, but I also think we need some new young CB talent to groom as the successors to Woodson and Harris.
 
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If we're -very- lucky this Shields guy could help our special teams and future CB situation.
 

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I hope guys like Shields and Dillon will be capable returners, if not than that's a huge need. No more Jordy Nelson returns!!!

Punter. Not much I can really say about this that hasn't been said.

Basically our Special Teams killed us last year. So hopefully it won't be an issue for much longer.
 

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I hope guys like Shields and Dillon will be capable returners, if not than that's a huge need. No more Jordy Nelson returns!!!

Punter. Not much I can really say about this that hasn't been said.

Basically our Special Teams killed us last year. So hopefully it won't be an issue for much longer.

Can you imagine NOT having to hold your breath every time we kick off or punt? For that matter, not falling asleep every time we get kicked to? That would be...inconceivable!
 

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We do have some new options in the return game which is nice because Nelson is horrible at returning. Everybody forgets about Will Blackmon, but if he comes back healthy, he can still return pretty well. I would like to see Westbrook brought in here. I love his veteran leadership and his hunger for a title. The concussions do scare me yes, but he also has pretty high upside. Having our backfield then have Grant/Westbrook/ and see what Starks can do, we could be alright. Wouldnt like to see Jackson go either.. but you can't have em all..
 

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I think another FB. The Packers did not have enough FB's on the roster last year. And a Punter. You guys need a punter.
 

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Have we improved our pass rush? The safety may help, and maybe we'll get some pressure up the middle, but do we know Jones is the answer opposite Matthews? If we don't pressure the QB better than last year, we're in trouble.
 

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I think another FB. The Packers did not have enough FB's on the roster last year. And a Punter. You guys need a punter.
AS much as you kid, Hall and Kuhn were 2 of the better ST players on the team. If they weren't, the ST play would be even worse...

And a Punter, absolutely. But I've said this before, with Frost we had the worst punter EVER. With Kapinos, the worst in the league. In this rythm, in approx. 31 years, we'll have the best one in the league! WOOT!
 

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Bringing in another linebacker or two wouldnt hurt. I'd like to see Clint Ingram get a shot, but who knows.. Doubtful anything will happen..
 

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I think, if you pay a closer look to how Burnett plays, and how Capers used to employ his sub packages, we might have depth at the CB positons.

Burnett likely will play the Dime back, and could play the Nickel Back. That leaves approx 6 young promising, raw CBs to battle for 1 spot.

This, not counting the return of Harris. If he comes back we'd have the dime set of Woodson, Williams, Harris, Burnett, Bigby and Collins. IMHO a GREAT secondary, that is...
 

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AS much as you kid, Hall and Kuhn were 2 of the better ST players on the team. If they weren't, the ST play would be even worse...

And a Punter, absolutely. But I've said this before, with Frost we had the worst punter EVER. With Kapinos, the worst in the league. In this rythm, in approx. 31 years, we'll have the best one in the league! WOOT!
It's amazing some of the guys on Special Teams so, they don't do much in the rest of game but they can make big differnce. MN main SP guy is Heath Falwell. Some don't understand why they payed him so well until he went down with an injury in 08 and SP went to hell. SP can make or break a team. It doesn't matter if they are FB or CB, if they get teh job done they will be on the team.
 
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I'm wondering what you guys think about Mason Crosby, do you guys think we might need a new kicker at all? I was content with him for a while, but I've gradually lost faith in him. He was 28th in FG% in the NFL last year. He was 30th in '08, and 27th in '07. Each of those years there was a couple guys who had under 5 attempts, so he could qualify for 2-3 spots higher, but that's still not good. It seems like no matter the distance, you never know if the ball is going through. I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed like his missed field goals cost us 2-3 games(although they weren't always right at the end of the game).
 

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I'm wondering what you guys think about Mason Crosby, do you guys think we might need a new kicker at all? I was content with him for a while, but I've gradually lost faith in him. He was 28th in FG% in the NFL last year. He was 30th in '08, and 27th in '07. Each of those years there was a couple guys who had under 5 attempts, so he could qualify for 2-3 spots higher, but that's still not good. It seems like no matter the distance, you never know if the ball is going through. I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed like his missed field goals cost us 2-3 games(although they weren't always right at the end of the game).

That's definitely not just you. I hate Mason Crosby so much.
 

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I'm wondering what you guys think about Mason Crosby, do you guys think we might need a new kicker at all? I was content with him for a while, but I've gradually lost faith in him. He was 28th in FG% in the NFL last year. He was 30th in '08, and 27th in '07. Each of those years there was a couple guys who had under 5 attempts, so he could qualify for 2-3 spots higher, but that's still not good. It seems like no matter the distance, you never know if the ball is going through. I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed like his missed field goals cost us 2-3 games(although they weren't always right at the end of the game).
Be very careful. Green_Bay_Packers is going to make your life miserable LOL.
 

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Crosby's not a bad kicker. I think the main reason he wasn't able to make thpse clutch kicks is because of lack of confidence. You definitely saw what he could do in that seahawks game. He was kicking into the wind and still nabbed that 52 yarder. The skillset to become an elite kicker is definitely there. It's just up to him to mature and grow to realize the type of player he can be.

What I am concerned about is what type of info Shawn Slocum has been feeding him. Slocum refused to let Crosby speak to a kicking specialist and failed to coach him up the right way.
 

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