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What number will Malcolm Jenkins wear for the Packers?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by freefromwhatyouare, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. freefromwhatyouare

    freefromwhatyouare Cheesehead

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    Jenks ran a 4.55 in his first 40 today

    He ran a 4.52 in his second attempt.

    You will hear many talking heads around the country say these numbers will make him a safety. While I look at his ability to play both CB and safety as a plus it's also ridiculous to say he is only suited for safety because of a 40 time.

    First of all these players are clocked by many timers while they run at the combine. They got a read of anyhwere from 4.53 to 4.60 on his first run this year and between 4.50 and 4.53 on his second. While these arn't eye-popping 40 times for a corner; a 4.52 is not anything to worry about. I personally clocked Jenks at 4.35 in one run December of '07 and on that same day clocked him at 4.55 in another. In his college years up to today his average 40 was 4.44. That is a good time for a corner.

    He has amazing game speed and side to side speed. He is a shut-down corner who plays physical and has GREAT size which you need in today's NFL to cover bigger stronger WR's.

    Keep talking heads! I want you to drop him right in Green Bay's arms!

    Cleveland still loves him at #5 and I have it from a good source that they would take him at 5 if the draft were today.

    I still have hope he slips and I still know he is the best corner I've seen come out since Champ.
     
  2. nelanator

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    The official times were very slow through the entire combine, much slower than the initial unofficial times. I don't think that Jenkins is a very good option at 9 though.
     
  3. Jess

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    40 times are too overhyped. What do you think Al Harris would run if he ran the 40 right now? 4.65, 4.7? And he made the Pro Bowl last year. One day NFL scouts will learn that unless you're a return specialist/wide receiver/running back, 40 times mean almost nothing.
     
  4. GJ85

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    40 times are stupid, no way years of game film should be looked over because someone runs a slow time
     
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    yah but thats the reason why hes so special because he can use tactics "press coverage" to make up for his speed. charles also is not fast but hes a beast.
     
  6. freefromwhatyouare

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    Both Woodson and Harris were in the 4.40's in their prime. With Woodson being in the lower end of that and Harris in the higher.

    Jenks by all accounts runs the 40 in about 4.45 which is similar to both Harris and Woodson in their primes. Again, I could time Jenks three times today and get numbers like 4.55 in one and then 4.39. In the third he could do what he did in late '07 and run a 4.35.

    If you go strictly just by his 40 Jenks could be a very CB in the NFL.

    If you go by all his other positives; he could be in the group of best CB's to ever play the game.
     
  7. ohiopacker

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    Well , to answer your question about what # he would wear for the Pack if drafted - he wore # 2 at Ohio State and # 2 in high school- but Mason Crosby is # 2 with the Pack , so he'd have to chose another # - . My guess is - double 2's - # 22 . :beer:
     
  8. freefromwhatyouare

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    When Woodson signed with the Packers before Crosby came; Charles made a special request to the NFL to wear # 2 as a Packer. He wore # 2 at Michigan. He was denied this by the NFL as CB's in the NFL have to be between #20 and 49.

    I suppose we will worry about Jenks number if we can get him to slip past Cleveland at # 5.

    Just don't tell the Browns he ran a 4.35 in late '07. Yes Cleveland he ran a 4.60 at the combine and you would be foolish to waste a first round pick on him.
     
  9. Pack88

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    I don't about how fast Jenkins is but many have reported that he did not have elite speed and this was long before the combine. If he runs 4.4 regulary where do they get this idea? I don't know who TT will draft at 9 but I would suspect that he wil be a guy that plays very close to the LOS not a DB. Were Jenkins to be the best player available at 9 I bet he is penciled in at S not CB
    Pack88
     
  10. freefromwhatyouare

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    Is Jenkins able to play safety and be successful in the NFL? Yes

    Is he better suited to be a true shut-down CB for someone? Yes

    Do I think he will play safety in the NFL? No

    Will he play CB in the NFL? Yes.
     
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    Do you guys really think we are going to take Jenkins with the #9 pick?
     
  12. freefromwhatyouare

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    "Do I think?" It seems that is a loaded question as I suspect you would not agree with the Packers taking Jenks. That is fine but do you realize the player he is?

    IMO it would be a very good move IF he falls to number nine for them to take him yes.

    "oh god my hairs on fire we been D-linemen" is not the way to go into the draft

    No worries on Ted doing that.
     
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    I'd love us to take him, I really would, but I don't think we will.

    Saying that, I don't think he'll fall to to us either :(
     
  14. UncleMeat

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    He ran an okay time in the shuttle and a pretty good time in the cone, so he's got some quickness to him. The 40 time is disappointing no matter what scheme he is in, but I'd be more concerned about it if we were staying in man-man. I just think of how often Al Harris gets burned on go routes and if you put Jenkins in man against a <4.4 guy who can get out of a jam, he'll be toast. If we're switching to mostly zone over the next couple years (as Harris/Woodson get phased out), then a 4.5 guy at corner becomes less an issue as long as they do other things well.
     
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    GB is not going to draft a CB at #9. There's no evidence that Woodson & Harris are slowing down even a little. It's real popular to say Harris is but yet he has played in the last two Pro-Bowls.

    They also have T. Williams, Blackmon & Lee.

    Why would you spend a 1st rounder in an area of strength?

    My guess is Jenkins will fall to between 15 & 30. Why? He's over-hyped coming from Ohio State & he is legimately slow for the NFL level of play. He lacks that recovery speed that most 1st round DBs have.
     
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    EXACTLY!

    Recovery speed have nothing to do with 40-time. It's more about the cone drill, and this guy is really agile, plus he has great vision and good hands.
    BUT IT'S NOT AN AREA OF NEED!!! Why don't we draft a QB too?? Or maybe WR. Ok, we WILL draft a WR, it's TT we're talking about...
     
  17. Spanish Rose

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    secondary is an area of strength? im sorry, i love al harris but he gets burned more than any cb i see in the league.. charles still got it but i dont know how long he will last for.. atari bigby blows a lot of plays and gets way too many costly penalties at the wrong time.. nick collins broke out this season and im not too sure if it was a fluke or if he will actually start producing.. jenkins will be a perfect pick at 9 in my opinion because our secondary needs a lot of help if you think about it.. look at how al harris really plays and tell me we dont need a corner
     
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    Let's begin form the point that our defense has 2 proved guys: Kampman and Woodson. Ok. Now the guys that can play very good, but are not stars: Barnett, Collins, Hawk and Jenkins. The rest needs improvement. BUT Bigby is a good player, just needs to pace his rhytm a little bit, and Al Harris has just been named to his 2nd pro bowl. I didn't vote for him, because he's a pass interference machine, but you cannot say that he's not good. He can get the job done. Now look at Pickett, Jolly, Chillar, Poppinga, Hunter... If you say that CB and SS are areas that can improve, I agree with out. But just look at the names I tossed up at our D-Line and OLB... It's just pathetic. Our defense is medium, our strong points aren't that strong, but our weak points are ridiculous. We can get another year with our secondary the way it is, but our line and OLB needs improvement NOW.
     
  19. Spanish Rose

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    i do agree with what you say.. we are pretty weak in olb and the line but i think barnett hawk and poppinga are pretty good line backers if kampman adjusts to the 3-4 i think we will be fine with pickett and jenkins but need one more d end.. with that being said i hate watching harris get burned for touchdowns and penalized and i hate when bigby get a pass interference at the end of games.. i would love either orakpo or jenkins in the draft.... or even better if tt would grow a pair and have gotten peppers
     
  20. freefromwhatyouare

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    High Woody G,

    You are of course entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

    You obviously have never seen Malcolm play in person. Many top scouts feel he has amazing game speed. "recovery speed" what do you base this off? His 40 time at the combine? Many top corners in the NFL right now had run a 4.55 or worse at their combine.

    "Over-hyped coming from Ohio State"

    I won't even dignify that drivel with a comment.
     
  21. PackersRS

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    Man, 2007, Championship game, 3rd freakin down, everybody covered and Harris makes an Pass Interference (or how I like to say, a Harris Move) on Burress and everybody knows what happenned. But I'd rather have Harris playing next year than Pickett or Poppinga... But call me crazy, I still have hope for Peppers. He does not want to play for Carolina, and whatever deal that the Panthers get need necessarily be aproved by him. He could force his way out, for a cheaper price than the Panthers want... Of course, Green Bay may be too calm and too cold for him, but I'm a dreamer...
     
  22. WoodyG

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    All 'Big Ten' players are over-hyped, especially those coming from Ohio State.

    It's a big time program that receives national attention every year. However, its track record for producing top quality NFL players does not exist & never has. Face it, you are being duped by the OS PR machine.
     
  23. freefromwhatyouare

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    I watched Jenkins play and practice for 3 years at Ohio State. I also watched MANY MANY players from all over the country play and practice. Jenkins is my top player regardlesss of position in this draft and it has nothing to do with the location of his school.

    I'm being "duped" by no one except for by you for taking your bait.

    peaCe
     
  24. RyanMegaphors

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    If we take Jenkins at 9, I will punch TT in the face. Pick something of need. We NEED a LB. We NEED an end. We're alright at CB.
     
  25. A. Rodgers

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    yeah, i say take one of the LB's or DE's and the take some OG's and OT's in the later rounds, because the packers really NEED those guys
     

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