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What if Crabtree falls to us cuz of his injury, do we take h

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ohiopacker, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. ohiopacker

    ohiopacker Cheesehead

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    I know we need DEF and i doub't if he'd fall to #9 - but what if he does ? :beer:
     
  2. PackersRS

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    You can never gues what TT will do (except in the FA, then you know what he'll do, nothing), but if he does this, I'll personally spit on his face...
     
  3. spartacheese520

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    If Thompson takes Crabtree, Matt Millen will have returned to the NFC North...in the form of Ted Thompson.
     
  4. Onofr1o

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    matt millen is taking crabtree in his mock draft
     
  5. GJ85

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    I could see us taking him because you know TT "best available player"
     
  6. PackersRS

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    That best available player is crap. Everybody that says that without considering need, if not current need, near future need (like cb), is crazy. Matt Millen crazy. Like I said, if he does that, shoot him in the head
     
  7. Onofr1o

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    Jeremy Maclin could be the only considerable big time rookie wide receiver taken by the packers for this reason: He can be an explosive return specialist. Hes a beast on Kick and Punt Returns.
     
  8. PackersRS

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    If TT drafts ANY wr, qb, safety, in the first day of the draft he needs to be "put to sleep". If he drafts rb, ilb, te, cb before the 3rd round, unless it's a steal, he needs to be punched in the mouth...
     
  9. doughsellz

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    In later rounds of the draft (Day 2), need becomes more of a directive for who is chosen, namely taking the BPA at a position of need. BPA is almost always the rule in the top 5 of Round One, in deeper drafts one can even consider BPA up to pick 10 or 12.

    '09 is looking like an average to above average draft, with OTs being the most favorable choice in the top 10, probably 3 taken; DEs might see 2 go Top Ten.

    LB, DT, QB, WR & CB will have one each. Where GB fits into any of those choices remains to be seen. With TT & his scouts drawing up this season's board, knowing they NEED big bodies along both lines, it's hard to imagine Crabtree going at #9 to the Packers. At some point a GM must pass on BPA strategy & focus on more imminent holes on the roster.

    It's all in how team's draw up their respective formulas for grading out the talent. Here's mine:

    1) overall talent
    2) character
    3) intelligence
    4) health
    5) roster deficiencies (need)

    If I were to assist TT this is how I would rate individual players, on a scale of A to F with "A" being worth 5 points & "F" worth 0 points, for each category.

    So if Orakpo, Raji, Jenkins & Crabtree were available at Pick #9 (pipe dream, I know but for the sake of this post...) here's how I would submit my advice to my GM:


    Orakpo - overall talent A=5 points, character B=4 points, intelligence C=3points, health B=4 points, current roster deficiency A=5 points - total of 21

    Raji 5, 4, 4, 4, 5 - total of 22

    Jenkins 5, 5, 5, 4, 2 - total of 21

    Crabtree 5, 4, 3, 3, 1 - total of 16

    Since Raji is the clear-cut favorite out of these 4 he would be the choice.

    As a sliding scale to break a tie I would narrow it down one category at a time, (since in my grading I believe them to be in order of greatest significance) starting by eliminating from #5 & working backwards to #1.

    So if it was down to just Orakpo & Jenkins, Jenkins is the choice because of higher grades at the more crucial areas of evaluation - overall talent, character & intelligence.

    If TT's draft grade rationale is in any way similar to what I've put forth here, it may explain why a BPA strategy may supercede need, especially in Round One, specifiaclly picks one thru ten.

    In '05 BPA was the rule for just about all Day One picks by TT. The greatest need was O-lineman yet the first 3 picks were QB, FS & WR. He waited until Day Two round 5 before he selected Junius Coston & then Will Witticker in round 7. The loss of Darren Sharper was addressed in the '05 draft before the offensive guard needs.
     
  10. PackersRS

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    Totally agree.
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    Great post. Very elucidative. You trash TT a lot, even when it's not needed, but you sure know your stuff... I would grade a little bit different, and evaluate players a litle bit different too, but one can't argue with what you posted...
     
  11. spartacheese520

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    :lol:
     

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