Tyni's Pre-RAS Top 50

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Have settled in I think with my Top 50 pre-RAS grades...which massively good or massively bad RAS scores can factor and shift stuff IMO.

Notable Omissions - Nix, Penix, Devontez Walker, Frazier, Wilson, Braswell
Notables Higher On Than Most - Quinyon 13, Beebe 31, Haynes 43, Fiske 45, Sainristil 49 and Brooks 50

Positional breakdown is: 4 QBs / 1 RB / 7 WR / 1 TE / 13 OL / 4 DL / 6 EDGE / 3 LB / 8 CB / 3 S (including DeJean as I see him)

PlayerPositionRanking
Marvin Harrison Jr.WR1
Rome OdunzeWR2
Brock BowersTE3
Caleb WilliamsQB4
Drake MayeQB5
Terrion ArnoldCB6
Joe AltOL7
Laiatu LatuEDGE8
Jared VerseEDGE9
Dallas TurnerEDGE10
Cooper DejeanDB11
Olumuyiwa FashanuOL12
Quinyon MitchellCB13
Jer'Zhan NewtonDL14
Malik NabersWR15
Taliesa FuagaOL16
Tyler GuytonOL17
Amarius MimsOL18
JC LathamOL19
Chop RobinsonEDGE20
Nate WigginsCB21
Jordan MorganOL22
Keon ColemanWR23
Kamari LassiterCB24
Jayden DanielsQB25
Kamren KinchensS26
Troy FranklinWR27
Ennis RakestrawCB28
Jackson Powers-JohnsonOL29
Byron MurphyDL30
Cooper BeebeOL31
Kool-Aid McKinstryCB32
Darius RobinsonEDGE33
Brian Thomas JrWR34
Tyler NubinS35
T'Vondre SweatDL36
Bralen TriceEDGE37
Edgerrin CooperLB38
Junior ColsonLB39
Patrick PaulOL40
Graham BartonOL41
Troy FautanuOL42
Christian HaynesOL43
Adonai MitchellWR44
Braden FiskeDL45
TJ TampaCB46
JJ McCarthyQB47
Jeremiah TrotterLB48
Mike SainristilCB49
Jonathan BrooksRB50
 

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Have settled in I think with my Top 50 pre-RAS grades...which massively good or massively bad RAS scores can factor and shift stuff IMO.

Notable Omissions - Nix, Penix, Devontez Walker, Frazier, Wilson, Braswell
Notables Higher On Than Most - Quinyon 13, Beebe 31, Haynes 43, Fiske 45, Sainristil 49 and Brooks 50

Positional breakdown is: 4 QBs / 1 RB / 7 WR / 1 TE / 13 OL / 4 DL / 6 EDGE / 3 LB / 8 CB / 3 S (including DeJean as I see him)

PlayerPositionRanking
Marvin Harrison Jr.WR1
Rome OdunzeWR2
Brock BowersTE3
Caleb WilliamsQB4
Drake MayeQB5
Terrion ArnoldCB6
Joe AltOL7
Laiatu LatuEDGE8
Jared VerseEDGE9
Dallas TurnerEDGE10
Cooper DejeanDB11
Olumuyiwa FashanuOL12
Quinyon MitchellCB13
Jer'Zhan NewtonDL14
Malik NabersWR15
Taliesa FuagaOL16
Tyler GuytonOL17
Amarius MimsOL18
JC LathamOL19
Chop RobinsonEDGE20
Nate WigginsCB21
Jordan MorganOL22
Keon ColemanWR23
Kamari LassiterCB24
Jayden DanielsQB25
Kamren KinchensS26
Troy FranklinWR27
Ennis RakestrawCB28
Jackson Powers-JohnsonOL29
Byron MurphyDL30
Cooper BeebeOL31
Kool-Aid McKinstryCB32
Darius RobinsonEDGE33
Brian Thomas JrWR34
Tyler NubinS35
T'Vondre SweatDL36
Bralen TriceEDGE37
Edgerrin CooperLB38
Junior ColsonLB39
Patrick PaulOL40
Graham BartonOL41
Troy FautanuOL42
Christian HaynesOL43
Adonai MitchellWR44
Braden FiskeDL45
TJ TampaCB46
JJ McCarthyQB47
Jeremiah TrotterLB48
Mike SainristilCB49
Jonathan BrooksRB50
Must be a very poor draft for RB, DL, S, and TE at the top of the draft.
 
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Must be a very poor draft for RB, DL, S, and TE at the top of the draft.
I've only been a zealot for about five years...but this is the worst top end of a RB and TE class I've seen. DL and Safety really bloats/grows in the 50-125 range nicely and I suspect many a story will come of successes at each of those groups in that range - they'll be some Tucker Kraft that emerges like Cade Stover or AJ Barner....safety my money is Hicks from Washington State, Bullard from Georgia or Bullock from USC as highly likely to make noise.
 
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I'll be fully transparent on a few guys that I struggled with ranking them as high or where I did for very different reasons:

#47 JJ....I love everything about JJ the football player, his grit and will are impressive. He isn't a QB void of abilities either...but while there is so much to like, I cannot help but see a low ceiling....an Alex Smith type guy (sufficient to win and even push for a SB on right team) but I don't see a guy that is a franchise mover and could possibly be overassessed here on my list.

#2 Rome Odunze - I bring him up not because he is ahead of Caleb Williams but because my main hesitancy is not putting him ahead of MHJr. Yes, I truly in my heart of hearts think Rome might just be a better more ready pro than MHJr. I NEVER see Rome struggling to make an impact in a game, even in quiet ways. Rome's quiet games are still 75 yards on 5 receptions....Marvin was held below 40 yards 4 separate times this past season...Rome never...Rome's lowest game was 64 yards otherwise 80 or more. MHJr's pedigree is the only decider for me that keeps him at #1.

#31 Beebe...I just see ELITE guard at the next level for 8-10 years. Want a player comp - Zach Martin, one of the best guards in the game presently...both shorter, both shorter arms (expect sub 33 from Beebe like Martin) but just made to run the iOL position. While I'm high on Beebe compared to nearly all....I struggle with if I'm too low.

#41 Graham Barton....This could be high on him. Yes, he likely could play at any position, but iOL is more likely given measurables...but some awesome Tackle reps riddle his film. BUT, I just don't see an elite tackle, I don't think I see an elite guard either but I do see a guy that is going to be a solid starter for multiple contracts for someone, but isn't going to be like an all pro level guy. A guy folks may recognize I'll bring up is that he IMO is likely to be a poor man's Josh Sitton...won't earn All Pro like Sitton did once, but he could sneak on to a Pro Bowl as an alternate or such a time or two.

#11 Cooper DeJean - I'm so high on this playmaker that no one knows for sure if he plays corner, slot or safety....I say safety and myself I see potential of Kyle Hamilton level play potentially....that's insanely high praise and makes me hesitant.
 

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I see people that like Kinchens in round 1, others who see him in round 3, and everything in between.
 

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It seems like everytime I see the latest rankings by basically anyone, my dream of getting Dejean fades a little more. Seems unlikely he'll slip this far.
 
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I see people that like Kinchens in round 1, others who see him in round 3, and everything in between.
Yup, he and Nubin are generally considered clear best two safeties but the differences are massive.

Draft Network I believe it was actually has Beau Brade in top 50 too
 

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