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Time to sign a free agent on defense

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by GoPGo, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. GoPGo

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    No need to insult anyone. I was simply wondering what the point was about a player being from UW. You could have simply answered and left it at that without the childishness.
     
  2. GoPGo

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    I wouldn't bother with a WR or RB either. I'd like to see the best S, ILB or TE taken in the first round. My top 3 players in order of preference are Clinton-Dix, Mosley and Amaro. But everyone's top 3 are liable to change after the college all-star games and the combine.
     
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    Don't forget arrests that are bound to come
     
  4. GoPGo

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    True. Clinton-Dix was suspended briefly this year but I couldn't find anything about an arrest. Mosley I don't think has been arrest. Amaro has but it was for using someone else's credit card to buy food, WITH the card owner's permission. That's a non-issue to me.
     
  5. DaveRoller

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    There were plenty of free agents who could have helped the Packers last offseason, including at the Safety position and for not all that much money. Yet, the Packers big moves besides signing Rodgers and Matthews were signing Brad Jones and Morgan Burnett to big new contracts. And the team went into 2013 with Jerron McMillian and M.D. Jennings next to Morgan Burnett.

    What makes others think Ted Thompson will take part in free agency this offseason when so many of his own players are set to become free agents?
     
  6. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    We'll TT needs to do something because this whole draft and develop hasn't paid off recently with "great results." The jury is still out on Nick Perry and Datone Jones but "bust label" is right around the corner. Burnett is a disaster at free safety, and strong safety is even a bigger disaster. No way Raji is worth the money based on recent production. I know there have been injuries but the Seattle Seahawks have leap frogged the Pack with making free agent moves.
     
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    With jimmy graham the offense would be "smokin" but when we did win it would probably be scoring in the 30's while giving up 30+ a game. But hey, if we are going to suck on defense mise well surround Rodgers with more weapons haha.
     
  8. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    That's exactly my point. Lol. "Just score baby"
     
  9. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    Put a defense together that can hold teams to field goals and score "touchdowns"
     
  10. Carl

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    Morgan Burnett really surprised me this season. At the time, I thought his contract was deserved as he was playing well and on his way to being really good, but he somehow got worse. I bet even the coaches have a hard time figuring that one out.
     
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  11. Luca

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    I think that you should stay away from the first week of free agency. Moreover you should keep in mind that free agents will essentially cost you compensatory picks (assuming that more players leave, than you sign). So the value of the guy you sign should be higher than the value of that draft pick. Having said that, I am not against some "under the radar" free agency signings, especially on defense.
     
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  12. rodell330

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    Goodbye to the following:

    Mike Neal
    Bj Raji
    Ryan Pickett
    MD Jennings
    Jeramicheal Finley
    James Starks
    EDS
    Marsha Newhouse
    Brad Jones
    James Jones

    Restructure Kuhn, Williams, and Burnett.

    Packers will have plenty of money to resign Shields and be a player in FA if TT really wants to. You can sign at least two solid free agents plus the rookies without going into cap salary hell. Not to mention the fact that Jordy Nelson will be a high priority to resign as well. My thought process with TT is after the year Starks had a contract will be offered to him but Starks probably feels he can go somewhere and start. Finley? who knows? if he's healthy do you give him the tag? or do you give the tag to James Jones? my money is they give the tag to Raji and we have to watch him do nothing impactful from the line another year because he's got no nasty in him.

    You have guy's like Dante Whitner that will immediately upgrade the safety slot because he can tackle and cover. Not some rookie but a PROVEN player.

    Then theres Brandon Spikes who is rated the third best ilb in the league as far as stopping the run. lord knows we need guys to stop the run. Whitner and Spikes IMMEDIATELY help us in that area and won't break the bank.

    Then you have more options with your 1st rd. pick because you have filled two positions of MAJOR need already by oooh looky here free agency. Now would you look at that.

    Then TT can try to trade up and nab OLB/DE Anthony Barr from UCLA or Jadaveon Clowney from South Carolina. Omg i just got chills thinking of how good this defense can be with just a few additions of playmakers.
     
  13. Carl

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    Not a guarantee a big money free agent makes the team better. A few big spending teams prove that every season.
     
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    Yeah but it's not a guarantee a lot of these guys on are current roster are gonna live up to draft stock. Many haven't so far. Still waiting and Rodgers is in his prime. At least with a couple key free agents you know they have made "big plays" before.
     
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    Why not? Didn't Denver do it? If you get rid of Jones, Raji, and Traymon u get Graham. Now we have best offense in league and don't lose to much production on defensive side based on recent performance. Then draft D.
     
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    I'm not a fan of spending big money on free agents. It may not be a guarantee that guys won't like up to draft stock as well, but it's much cheaper and doesn't damage the cap.
     
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    JIMMY GRAHAM to GREEN BAY?
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    WHY waste any of your dreams on that?

    There is a better chance of you:
    • Winning the Powerball this week
    • Having intimate relations with Jessica Biel. And Megan Foxx. And Olivia Wilde.
    • Becoming US President
    • Seeing and being aducted by a UFO this week
    • Being struck by lightning
    • Hitting two hole-in-ones on the same day
    • Finding a cure for all cancers and baldness
    • Discovering what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa and where he is
     
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  18. GoPGo

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    No.
     
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    Whitner might have the extra incentive of not having to worry about trying to tackle Lacy again.
     
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  20. brandon2348

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    I get it and usually I'm right there with ya but after following this defense very closely the last few years I am losing hope and patience that it will ever be a dominant defense with how things are going. I feel like we're right where we were last year, and the year before only now we don't even want to sign most of the players the team has supposedly developed that are free agents. Doesn't seem to be working. If we let some of these guys go the packers are way way under the cap. Enough to make some "big moves."

    Bottom line for me and I don't know about others in here but I am sick and tired of my beloved packers "losing to the 49'ers and Harbough. " Makes me want to puke. With everything that has happened to Rodgers and all things considered. I really think this team needs to be built to win the next few years. pack only scored 20 pts against the niners. Our make-shift injured D held them mostly to field goals in red zone. We haven't been as good this last year in redone especially with Rodgers and Finely going down. I have fantasies about getting Rodgers another weapon in the red zone like "jimmy Graham". I mean we were set to pay finely 8 mill until he got injured. It Probably will never happen but I can dream.
     
  21. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    That's funny, then tell me how the Packers are going to beat the 49'ers next season and compete with the "stinky bears" and all there weapons?
     
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    The cap and 20ish of our own free agents say no to Jimmy Graham.
     
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    Save the outrageous money Graham will want and draft Amaro (if Clinton-Dix and Mosley are gone.)
     
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    We'll then better re-sign jones or get a TE to replace Finely's production
     
  25. brandon2348

    brandon2348 GO PACK GO!

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    I like Mosley, and think he would be worth trading up for a few spots. I have heard reports Dix is purely a free safety type and not a true number 1 round pick. In last years draft it's said he is second round talent. I'm gonna keep saying this one "Deon Bucannon" WSU SS
     

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