you look to closely at our performance without Rodgers. That was an indication of our back up not being with our team thru training camp an not the overall talent level of this team. I don't care how much talent you have, if your QB is bad, you will have a. Tough time winning.What I noticed last year was this:
When Rodgers is playing, our drafts look better.
Our talent looks better.
When Rodgers is out hurt, our drafts look worse.
Our talent looks awful.
Ted drafted Rodgers.
you look to closely at our performance without Rodgers. That was an indication of our back up not being with our team thru training camp an not the overall talent level of this team. I don't care how much talent you have, if your QB is bad, you will have a. Tough time winning.
I still say we are one of the most talented teams in the NFL. It is tough to make this team. we will be cutting players who are better than starters on the cowboy defense.
Sure, there have been some playoff disappointments in the last few years.
But at least you weren't rooting for the 9ers or the Broncos only to watch those dreams get crushed in the SB.
name one poster on this board who is happy with not being good enough to win the Superbowl.Wait...What? Are you actually suggesting, that continually getting embarrassed in the first round of the playoffs is somehow better than being good enough to get to the Super Bowl? I am seriously confused and perplexed by this statement. Although if it is truly how you feel it does make me understand why so many posters on this board seem to be satisfied with the status quo of not being good enough to get back to the Super Bowl...
name one poster on this board who is happy with not being good enough to win the Superbowl.
Yet I can name a few who have such a myopic unrealistic view who believe that every time you don't win the Superbowl it represents an afailure requiring changes. You are on that list.
Wait...What? Are you actually suggesting, that continually getting embarrassed in the first round of the playoffs is somehow better than being good enough to get to the Super Bowl?.
if you want to see what an incompetent drafter looks like, observe the Cowboys. IMHO we will cut defensive players who can start for the Cowboys. If TT is so bad at defensive drafting, how do you explain Matthews, Daniels, Heyward, Raji, and Hyde? Hell, Jones is a 7th rounder LB who is starting. You know how many 7th founders start? Very few.Lol? How did I get on the list, because I dared suggest that people like yourself seem to believe that the Packers can do no wrong? I for one, know we cannot win the Superbowl every year and do not even expect it. However, there are reasons why this team, which by all rights should have appeared in another Superbowl by now, has not been to another Superbowl yet. The #1 reason is Ted's inability to draft and develop defensive players up to this point.
His defensive drafting has been highly suspect for his entire tenure with the packers. He is great at finding offensive players but below average at finding the same type of defensive gems as he does on the offensive side of the ball.
Is this the year it all comes together? Perhaps, but who really knows? Just to reiterate, our pathetic, soft, weak, no passion and complete lack of fire defense is the only reason why we have not gotten back to the Superbowl since our last miracle run, and make not mistake about it, after the past 3 years of wasted opportunity, 2010 was definitely a miracle run which I am more than happy to have seen, but it does not mean that a great team was built to win the Superbowl. It means that a good team was built to get hot at the exact right time and win Superbowl.
I want to see a great team built while we still have our 2nd straight future hall of fame QB at the helm.
And even more mysterious to me is how the defense started the season doing well and then fell apart. And then re-appeared against the 49ers in the playoffs despite missing Matthews, Shields, and Neal. Yes, they lost that game but the effort they put forward in the game was nothing to be ashamed of.I agree not having a great QB makes it really tough to win in this league but it doesn´t explain the shortcomings on the defensive side of the ball (like allowed 561 yards vs. the Lions on Thanksgiving).
I'm reminding us that it's better to be a Packers fan even though they have lost recent playoff games and yet who won their last SB than to be a fan of a recent SB team who went back after a long drought only to lose it.Wait...What? Are you actually suggesting, that continually getting embarrassed in the first round of the playoffs is somehow better than being good enough to get to the Super Bowl? I am seriously confused and perplexed by this statement. Although if it is truly how you feel it does make me understand why so many posters on this board seem to be satisfied with the status quo of not being good enough to get back to the Super Bowl...
if you want to see what an incompetent drafter looks like, observe the Cowboys. IMHO we will cut defensive players who can start for the Cowboys. If TT is so bad at defensive drafting, how do you explain Matthews, Daniels, Heyward, Raji, and Hyde? Hell, Jones is a 7th rounder LB who is starting. You know how many 7th founders start? Very few.
And if you want to look at Datone, Perry and Worthy - all of whom have battled injuries as proof of incompetence, then, so be it. Seems very disingenuous to me.
And even more mysterious to me is how the defense started the season doing well and then fell apart. And then re-appeared against the 49ers in the playoffs despite missing Matthews, Shields, and Neal. Yes, they lost that game but the effort they put forward in the game was nothing to be ashamed of.
As to the 2012 draft at the time I thought it was a good thing for Thompson to get out of his comfort zone and trade up for players. I thought quality was more important then quantity. But that draft turned out to be an example that Thompson's normal MO of trading down for quantity is just as likely - or moreso - to find quality players because at the end of the day, even with all the money and man hours thrown into analyzing draftees, the draft is a crap shoot.
if you want to see what an incompetent drafter looks like, observe the Cowboys. IMHO we will cut defensive players who can start for the Cowboys. If TT is so bad at defensive drafting, how do you explain Matthews, Daniels, Heyward, Raji, and Hyde? Hell, Jones is a 7th rounder LB who is starting. You know how many 7th founders start? Very few.
And if you want to look at Datone, Perry and Worthy - all of whom have battled injuries as proof of incompetence, then, so be it. Seems very disingenuous to me.
I overlook it for two reasons. First:I think people overlook the impact that the weather may have had in that playoff game against the 49ers. I'm certainly not trying to say it was a huge factor but it's also probably not accurate to say that the 49ers weren't affected by the cold (if I recall correctly, wasn't that by far the coldest game that Kap had ever played in?).
http://www.unr.edu/nevada-today/news/2013/kap-anything-but-coldKaepernick, who was born in Wisconsin and grew up as a Packers fan while going to elementary, middle and high school in northern California, played the game without long sleeves. "I've played in cold weather games," Kaepernick was quoted as saying afterward on 49ers.com. "It's more mental than anything." He then mentioned his experience at the University (of Nevada, Reno) as one of the reasons why the cold wasn't a factor. "In Nevada, we didn't have jackets, beanies or heaters," he said with a smile.
Diptheria? ******************? Dead Protestants???
I don't see this as Ted drafting poorly but more Ted always drafting at the back of the class. The really good big guys go early, where we pick in many drafts, the Big Guys still available could be considered the top of the second round. Most of the issues with the Big guys we have drafted is injuries not a lack of talent. I see lots of talent on the D but you have to have them healthy and on the field to develop into great players. Last year the D was so decimated by injuries that you had a limping Linebacker having to chase Kaperpunk. How is that a result of TT drafting poorly? Also look at how many UDFA's we have successfully developed.Lol? How did I get on the list, because I dared suggest that people like yourself seem to believe that the Packers can do no wrong? I for one, know we cannot win the Superbowl every year and do not even expect it. However, there are reasons why this team, which by all rights should have appeared in another Superbowl by now, has not been to another Superbowl yet. The #1 reason is Ted's inability to draft and develop defensive players up to this point.
His defensive drafting has been highly suspect for his entire tenure with the packers. He is great at finding offensive players but below average at finding the same type of defensive gems as he does on the offensive side of the ball.
Is this the year it all comes together? Perhaps, but who really knows? Just to reiterate, our pathetic, soft, weak, no passion and complete lack of fire defense is the only reason why we have not gotten back to the Superbowl since our last miracle run, and make not mistake about it, after the past 3 years of wasted opportunity, 2010 was definitely a miracle run which I am more than happy to have seen, but it does not mean that a great team was built to win the Superbowl. It means that a good team was built to get hot at the exact right time and win Superbowl.
I want to see a great team built while we still have our 2nd straight future hall of fame QB at the helm.
Raji was critical in winning the Superbowl. No Raji no Superbowl. That makes it a great pick.Why in the world would you bring up Raji as a positive for Thompson's defensive drafting acumen? Raji has been one of the more disappointing top-10 draft picks in recent memory.