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Rodgers: Close games can be decided early

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The bolded part in the land of brett favre lovers means

    They are so bitter ;)
     
  2. Mack_20

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    He's a smart cat, and he's right, all our losses could have easily been wins, but it doesnt matter, we lost all 3 or them, now have to dogfight, but hopefully we can put a good string of wins together as our schedule gets tougher.. We need our offense to start clickin early and often starting this sunday
     
  3. SpartaChris

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    I was glad to hear him say it. It tells me he's at least aware of what's going on and can take action to hopefully get that damn offense to start firing on all 11 cylinders again.

    I think the 1-11 stat, which correct, is misleading. There's a LOT of game that he had us in a position to win but circumstances out of his control led to a loss. In '08 Houston and Carolina all came up with a HUGE play late in the game to steal the win after Rodgers led us to a narrow lead. That's on defense. Also in '08, Crosby missed a FG against Minny and had one blocked vs. Chicago. Both were potential game winners that Rodgers put us in position to win. And then there's OT vs. Tennessee- Our offense never saw the ball.

    That doesn't excuse the two OT losses *this* season, but in the Chicago game, Crosby had a blocked FG and James Jones with that killer fumble. Can't really pin that one on Rodgers.

    That's at least 5 of 11 close games he had us in position to win, but either our defense or special teams came up short. 6 if you want to count the Chicago game, but to be honest, there's no telling where that final drive could have gone. Either way, the 1-11 stat really doesn't paint the whole picture.
     
  4. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Chris I agree with you, but then you have the argument that Rodgers mentions

    If he could have got a FG or a Td in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd q then wouldnt need the last minute thing
     
  5. Incubes12

    Incubes12 Bay Harbor Butcher?

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    Now if only he (and the rest of the team) prove that actions speak louder than words.
     
  6. PackersRS

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    IMHO this is BS.

    He has played terribly lately, but to call him not clutch is BS. So many games he brought us close to victory, only for the D to let us down.

    But it is something to keep an eye on, to see if it affects him. Though I think it's overrated, it's not like he is extremely clutch, you know?
     
  7. SpartaChris

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    I agree completely. I was just trying to make the point that the 1-11 in close games stat is misleading. I mean, it is what it is, but it fails to tell the whole story.
     
  8. Mack_20

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    IMO, its Rodgers who needs to pull the team and rally, thats what Favre always did, and thats what he needs to do. . He hasnt played well in either of the OT losses this year and has been off on some of his throws.. I put a lot of the blame on him and think he should tighten things up from beginning to end..
     
  9. SpartaChris

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    Agreed. I would love to see him put this team on his shoulders and be the leader we need him to be.
     
  10. longtimefan

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    Mack....He led a drive at end of Washington game and Mason missed..

    So now he is suppose to have TWO game winning drives in one game?
     
  11. SpartaChris

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    He did have two OT possessions in the Washington game though.. One of those should have led to a scoring drive, but he threw a pick instead.

    We did have an opportunity for two FG's earlier that Crosby missed though. He makes one of those and it's possible the game never goes to OT.
     
  12. Mack_20

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    I could be getting my FGs mixed around, but wasnt that a 56 yard attempt? thats not really great field position, he shoulda gotten at least 10 more yards, but then again, I could be confusing FGs..
     
  13. SpartaChris

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    In the WAS game we had a 48 and a 53 yard attempt. Both were missed.
     
  14. Murgen

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    Brett Farve had Longwell who I recall rarely missed. Mason was horrible last year and missed one game winner this year. A kicker has to be as clutch as the QB who gets him into FG range. So Rodgers takes the blame for Mason not hitting FGs. Unfair, but the way it is.
     
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    NFL Forum :: - Post-Game Week 6: Packers 20, Miami 23.


    Posted by a guy named waldo on football future

     
  16. SpartaChris

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    That's some pretty great information.

    So since most teams are average in close games, I guess it's time for Rodgers and McCarthy to go on a 10 close game win streak!
     
  17. longtimefan

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    I am not sure but in last 8 years or so Brett has had at least 3 playoff games to come up at the end?

    Philly 4th and 26

    Giants

    New Orleans

    am I right or can we blame the defense, or lack of running game?

    But I am pretty sure he had the ball with a chance to score, and they win, right? but instead he tossed ints?
     
  18. longtimefan

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    LOL @ Brett fans

    Again in last 5 years how much did that work for Brett?

    I only recall the Philly, NO and Giants playoff games, you know.....when it truly matters
     
  19. +RAY+

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    Ditto.. The Playoff game against The Cards is an excellent example.
     
  20. SpartaChris

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    He did lead us on a game-tying drive vs. Miami to force OT also.
     
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    thats my point he has done that alot

    So he is expected to do it 2 times in same game?
     
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    It amazes me how much those guys are stuck up Brent's butt, it is quite impressive really.
     
  23. longtimefan

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    From Jason Wilde just to prove it isnt as bad as Brett nutt huggers think


    If reading that right 7 games were Mason blocked or missed, defense giving up score with no time left, or losing coin toss and the opposing teams scored in o/t

    So then it should be only 5 games to look at for the closing minutes and his performance?
     
  24. SpartaChris

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    You'd look at 5 games if you were trying to find a way to criticize Rodgers for something. The point he's making is saying Rodgers is 1-11 in close games is misleading. In 7 of those games, Rodgers has put us in a position to win but something beyond his control led to the loss. He could just as easily be 8-11, were it not for missed FG's or our defense giving up huge last minute plays.
     
  25. 3irty1

    3irty1 Fear the Dreads!

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    Don't forget Mcarthy challenging dumb plays to waste Time Outs and praying for a blocked field goal @ :31 with no t/o...
     

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