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Espn just got done remembering the NE vs Raiders game where the refs made up(or found either way it's terrible) the tuck rule. Last week the lions weren't allowed to return a fumble for a td. The Pittsburg steelers can pass block for rapistburger for 10 minutes and never hold. The short, I wish robots and computers could ref. humans are always biast. And some teams they like and some they don't. What about those twoOFFENSIVE pass interference calls on Jordy in Kansas City? Robots ftw!
 

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Interesting you bring this up when I found this odd ball blog post.

emember the Tuck Rule? The famous ******** of the Raiders in the playoffs, elevating Tom Brady to the role of Golden Boy in the NFL and adding yet another chapter to the long, storied history of the Raiders, among other teams, being screwed by NFL officials?

Well, apparently, the Tuck Rule is no more. Or at least not when the Raiders aren't involved.

NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2.
When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.

Now let us watch Steeler QB Ben Roethlisberger lose the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back to his body...exactly as Tom Brady did years ago. Yet where was the Tuck Rule to save the day for the Steelers?

What's even more galling is the fact that Walt Coleman, lead bonehead among NFL Officials and the Referee that snowy night in New England was the Referee Monday night in San Francisco. Surely Walt would know what the Tuck Rule looks like!

But no...just a fumble.

Is it any surprise though? A fumble is a fumble, not a tuck. Perhaps Walt finally got it right. Too bad he didn't get it right in 2002.


You can read more at this blog, including a new post taking a shot at Tebow

http://refsuck.com/
 

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I've seen OTs line up way further off the line than that TE was and no call.
 

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Hey idiot, they didn't make up the rule. I'm sick and tired of people that have never even seen the rule book saying it is a made up rule. Seriously SHUT UP.
 

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I totally agree, if it was any other team, it would have been a flag, but oh god no not a flag on Quarterback Jesus!

I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. Let me clarify for you. I said that I have seen tackles line up WAY more off the line than the TE was in that picture and those tackles were NOT called for illegal formation either.

BTW, I bet if Tebow was a muslim you wouldn't be on here calling him Quarterback Muhammed. But since Tebow is a Christian, I guess you think your bigotry is justifiable.
 

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I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. Let me clarify for you. I said that I have seen tackles line up WAY more off the line than the TE was in that picture and those tackles were NOT called for illegal formation either.

BTW, I bet if Tebow was a muslim you wouldn't be on here calling him Quarterback Muhammed. But since Tebow is a Christian, I guess you think your bigotry is justifiable.


Wrong, I have nothing against Christians...Sure let's have a Muslim quarterback just so I can prove you wrong. My problem is the mass marketting scheme and sponsorship they use for him to ram it down our throats, even politicians use it, it's sickening how one man that believes in God has to be all over the place, yet there are millions that believe in god.


From that screen shot on the page, I don't see the TE lined up at the line of scrimmage, or the last tackle. It can go either way, but by the picture, it looks like they are slanted off from the left. Off sides, easily.

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I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. Let me clarify for you. I said that I have seen tackles line up WAY more off the line than the TE was in that picture and those tackles were NOT called for illegal formation either.

BTW, I bet if Tebow was a muslim you wouldn't be on here calling him Quarterback Muhammed. But since Tebow is a Christian, I guess you think your bigotry is justifiable.
Nope. Tebow doesn't stop talking about Jesus. You don't see Mushin Muhammed talk about Allah and Mohammed all the time.
 

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Wrong, I have nothing against Christians...Sure let's have a Muslim quarterback just so I can prove you wrong. My problem is the mass marketting scheme and sponsorship they use for him to ram it down our throats, even politicians use it, it's sickening how one man that believes in God has to be all over the place, yet there are millions that believe in god.


From that screen shot on the page, I don't see the TE lined up at the line of scrimmage, or the last tackle. It can go either way, but by the picture, it looks like they are slanted off from the left. Off sides, easily.

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The flank officials are instructed NOT to flag this. They are definitively told not to nitpick on this call. Yes he is off, but that will never be called like that. They will tell you in the package they send to you after the game and ask you why you called it on conference call.
 

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Espn just got done remembering the NE vs Raiders game where the refs made up(or found either way it's terrible) the tuck rule. Last week the lions weren't allowed to return a fumble for a td. The Pittsburg steelers can pass block for rapistburger for 10 minutes and never hold. The short, I wish robots and computers could ref. humans are always biast. And some teams they like and some they don't. What about those twoOFFENSIVE pass interference calls on Jordy in Kansas City? Robots ftw!
This was a rule, as pointed out by others above. However, I have watched a lot of football prior to this game and I had never heard of the "Tuck Rule" or seen it applied in a game.

To me, the Cowboys in the 80s absolutely made me sick. It seems they got every call their way. Michael Irvin, I swear, pushed off on nearly every play with absolute impunity. It was ridiculous. I remember quotes by Reggie where he complained to the refs that the OT was reaching under his face mask and the ref basically told him to not be such a baby.
 

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The flank officials are instructed NOT to flag this. They are definitively told not to nitpick on this call. Yes he is off, but that will never be called like that. They will tell you in the package they send to you after the game and ask you why you called it on conference call.


I'll take your word for it after seeing Mike Perrara say the same thing, but I think I have seen this called before. Could be wrong but I think the Packers were called for this in that MNF flag game against the Bears last year, in one of the off sides calls.
 

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I'll take your word for it after seeing Mike Perrara say the same thing, but I think I have seen this called before. Could be wrong but I think the Packers were called for this in that MNF flag game against the Bears last year, in one of the off sides calls.

You probably have seen it be called. And I think I remember that being called in the game. I know it was an illegal formation penalty, I'm trying to remember if it was for this reason. I thought it may have had to do with the cover up on the tight end, but that could have been the case.

That game was also poorly officiated to say the least. Those guys were off their game that night....and then they got the NFC championship game because I think they made amends, but they were in the doghouse for a while.
 

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I'll take your word for it after seeing Mike Perrara say the same thing, but I think I have seen this called before. Could be wrong but I think the Packers were called for this in that MNF flag game against the Bears last year, in one of the off sides calls.

Yeah, we were. It's one of those penalties that are never called with any consistency, so you never know how much you'll be able to get away with until you push the limits.
 

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Basically, what it boils down to is that the OL lines up in a bit of a wedge. The OT has to have his head even with the center's butt. As long as the TE holds to that wedge shape, he isn't going to get called.
 

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Nope. Tebow doesn't stop talking about Jesus. You don't see Mushin Muhammed talk about Allah and Mohammed all the time.
You know why? Because Mushin Muhammad is a Christian, just like KGB (Kabeer Gbaja-Bjiamilla) is. Neither of them named themselves those Muslim names, as Barack Hussein Obama didn't either. Some say he's a Christian too.

The fact is tons of people love Tebow because he is a Christian, and tons hate him because he's a Christian.
I choose to believe love is the way, while hate is the way of Satan. But to each their own. Let's let Hollywood lead us to heaven then instead of Tebow, that big mouth, Reggie White/Kurt Warner copycat.

I thought this thread was about bad refs, yet someone had to bring Tebow's Christianity into play again.
 
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Hey idiot, they didn't make up the rule. I'm sick and tired of people that have never even seen the rule book saying it is a made up rule. Seriously SHUT UP.
Prozac man. Seriously. I'm glad they called it. I was a fan of the call in the game. But it was a stretch. Home cooking happens. Chill out.
 

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Nope. Tebow doesn't stop talking about Jesus.

That's an exaggeration. Besides, actions are louder than words anyway. If you want to hate him because he thanks Jesus for his successes, then you miss the point. The work he does with children with disabilities cannot be ignored. But I suppose there is a contingent who thinks that him merely mentioning Jesus is an offense so despicable that it completely negates any good he does with those darn kids.
 

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