Prospects You Love

[Sunshinepacker]

Lets throw the "elite reciever" tag to the side for a minute because we need reciever help regardless of whether it is elite or just really good. I've laid it out in posts that the last 6 receievers we have drafted in later rounds haven't really produced anything. The only ones even left on team is a convert to RB(who cant stay healthy) and who knows with Yancy. Then you throw in the decision to move on from Jordy(which I believe was the right decision) and the cupboards are bare.

I just believe there is some denial going on in regards to the current state of this offense on the outside. We are literally 1 injury to Adams or Graham and its a real bad situation. Its not like this offense hasn't struggled before even with AR12. All you gotta do is go look up posts from 2015 and you had people saying Rodgers was finished or blaming Thompson for having no back up plan at WR etc etc. They had to scurry to bring back Jones who was a shell of his former self. Who are they gonna call up this time?

With AR12 were always gonna be an offense first team with the way the NFL salary cap is set up so we have to keep the shelves stocked. If People want to build an elite defense then trade Rodgers for picks and use that plus the $ and stack a defense and roll Kizer. Sounds simple but we could very well end up like the Cleveland Browns with that mentality.

We haven't drafted an offensive player in the first round since Bulaga. I dont see the harm in doing it one year especially when we have 12 draft picks. Im so glad Thompson is gone from GM spot. I think a lot of Packer fans have been conditioned on how we draft because of years of Thompsons drafts and its coming out in there posts. This Gute is different and I highly expect him to stay away from some of the failing trends of the last several years.

Well, another problem with going offense at #14 is that the receiver class this year at the top of the draft is kind of weak. So deciding to go offense THIS year, when the options aren't as great as usual, doesn't seem like the best route to go. However, next year is supposedly great at receiver, so here's to hoping the Packers get a great one at #32 next year.

 

[Arthur Squires]

I would be pretty surprised if Thomas made it out of the 3rd round.

I have a 3rd round grade on him as well. He reminds me of Dwayne Allen when I watch him play some may disagree. In my notebook he will be 5th TightEnd off the board. I still think Gesickie will be the best in this draft but Ian Thomas will have a solid career also if he can stay healthy which he struggled with last year. If we have the chance I say draft Gesickie in 2nd or Thomas in 3rd or Fumagalli in 4th. Another late round TE Ethan Wolfe is very underrated. If we choose not to draft a TE I like Cam Serigne as a priority free agent. This kid loves football gives his all and has heart of a lion.

 

[Arthur Squires]

There is plenty of blame to go around. I agree with all this but I believe WR is as big as a need as anywhere else. Love the Graham signing but we are 1 injury away from being in big trouble on the outside and Allison isn't much more then Boykin. Were probably a year late replacing Jordy and didn't do it last year because we were to busy drafting "DEFENSE" 1-4. I was listening to John Clayton and he was talking about around the NFL and basically listed the Cowboys and Packers as the two biggest offenses to take a step backwards. He basically said the Packers lack overall talent at the WR position so not everyone shares the same optimism.

If Gute thought we were so set at WR why would he be a player on Watkins, Robinson and Matthews?

With Jordy Gone we may see Adams step into his full potential and put up huge numbers this season. Cobb has played below his capabilities but can still be deadly in the slot. Geronimo will get a real opportunity to show what he can do as a true #3. Personally I think he will put up decent numbers maybe 500yds 5TDs. He has shown flashes of wonderful ability especially going over the middle extending with no fear. I have little to no hope left in Davis the supposedly deep threat we needed. We need to see more of Yancey before opinions get thrown around. Here are some names I think will have good careers in NFL.
1.Sutton
2.Ateman
3.Simmie Cobbs
4.Lazard
5.Anthony Miller, who reminds me of Randall Cobb.
6.Berrios
And my priority free agent WR Austin Proehl I watched alot of TarHeel games last few years and this kid gets open constantly and made some pretty tough catches. He could be Welker/Edelman type imo.

 

[GleefulGary]

If there's any Carl Lawson in this draft (3rd day good edge rusher) it's going to be Duke Ejiofor.

 

[brandon2348]

With Jordy Gone we may see Adams step into his full potential and put up huge numbers this season. Cobb has played below his capabilities but can still be deadly in the slot. Geronimo will get a real opportunity to show what he can do as a true #3. Personally I think he will put up decent numbers maybe 500yds 5TDs. He has shown flashes of wonderful ability especially going over the middle extending with no fear. I have little to no hope left in Davis the supposedly deep threat we needed. We need to see more of Yancey before opinions get thrown around. Here are some names I think will have good careers in NFL.
1.Sutton
2.Ateman
3.Simmie Cobbs
4.Lazard
5.Anthony Miller, who reminds me of Randall Cobb.
6.Berrios
And my priority free agent WR Austin Proehl I watched alot of TarHeel games last few years and this kid gets open constantly and made some pretty tough catches. He could be Welker/Edelman type imo.

Sutton is a top ten talent as far as Im concerned and the fact that Mike Williams went 7th last year kind of cements that.

Ateman and Cobbs concern me. They tested like a lot of people "thought" Sutton was gonna test. They still have size and might be worth mid to late round. These guys just appear to be more of G. Allison to me. Lazard might be more of a receiving TE then receiver.

I really do like this Miller and think he could be even better then Cobb. I think its a pipe dream to make him an outside fixture(as some have suggested) but could play out there in a pinch. I like Antonio Callaway better but wouldnt complain a bit if we got Miller.

Berrios is a late round sleeper. Maybe he is the next Doug Baldwin or maybe just another nice college player that cant get it done in NFL.

 

[Dantés]

Sutton is a top ten talent as far as Im concerned and the fact that Mike Williams went 7th last year kind of cements that.

Ateman and Cobbs concern me. They tested like a lot of people "thought" Sutton was gonna test. They still have size and might be worth mid to late round. These guys just appear to be more of G. Allison to me. Lazard might be more of a receiving TE then receiver.

I really do like this Miller and think he could be even better then Cobb. I think its a pipe dream to make him an outside fixture(as some have suggested) but could play out there in a pinch. I like Antonio Callaway better but wouldnt complain a bit if we got Miller.

Berrios is a late round sleeper. Maybe he is the next Doug Baldwin or maybe just another nice college player that cant get it done in NFL.

I don't think that's true.

The Chargers were stupid enough to take Mike Williams at #7, but that doesn't therefore mean that similar prospects should be rated top 10.

To me, that's like saying that because the Giants drafted Ereck Flowers at #9, any hulking OT from a decent program with bad pass pro skills deserves a top 10 grade.

To be clear, it's fine if you personally think that Sutton is a top 10 talent in this class. But that isn't "cemented" by another team's bad pick.

 

[brandon2348]

I don't think that's true.

The Chargers were stupid enough to take Mike Williams at #7, but that doesn't therefore mean that similar prospects should be rated top 10.

To me, that's like saying that because the Giants drafted Ereck Flowers at #9, any hulking OT from a decent program with bad pass pro skills deserves a top 10 grade.

To be clear, it's fine if you personally think that Sutton is a top 10 talent in this class. But that isn't "cemented" by another team's bad pick.

I think it has to do more with what teams "value". All you have to do is look at what receivers got paid this past free agency. Paul Richardson "40 million dollar contract" and 16-17 million a year to Watkins and Robinson. None of these guys were even pro bowlers.

Show me another postion group that got paid that kind of money other then QB or corner? Certainly not any LB or D-Lineman got paid that kind of money

Like ive posted all along teams will reach several picks for a chance at an elite receiver all day long. There just that valuable. I know as far as Green Bay the attitude is to just draft them on day 3 and put it all on Rodgers to be "Houdini" but our receiving corp overall sucks and I'm sure Rodgers is getting worn on it as well.

 

[GleefulGary]

Sutton is a top ten talent as far as Im concerned and the fact that Mike Williams went 7th last year kind of cements that.

Ateman and Cobbs concern me. They tested like a lot of people "thought" Sutton was gonna test. They still have size and might be worth mid to late round. These guys just appear to be more of G. Allison to me. Lazard might be more of a receiving TE then receiver.

I really do like this Miller and think he could be even better then Cobb. I think its a pipe dream to make him an outside fixture(as some have suggested) but could play out there in a pinch. I like Antonio Callaway better but wouldnt complain a bit if we got Miller.

Berrios is a late round sleeper. Maybe he is the next Doug Baldwin or maybe just another nice college player that cant get it done in NFL.

Berrios and Doug Baldwin is an awful comparison. Awful. Awful. Awful.

Why don't you think Miller can play outside?

 

[GleefulGary]

I think it has to do more with what teams "value". All you have to do is look at what receivers got paid this past free agency. Paul Richardson "40 million dollar contract" and 16-17 million a year to Watkins and Robinson. None of these guys were even pro bowlers.

Show me another postion group that got paid that kind of money other then QB or corner? Certainly not any LB or D-Lineman got paid that kind of money

Like ive posted all along teams will reach several picks for a chance at an elite receiver all day long. There just that valuable. I know as far as Green Bay the attitude is to just draft them on day 3 and put it all on Rodgers to be "Houdini" but our receiving corp overall sucks and I'm sure Rodgers is getting worn on it as well.

Another made up Green Bay WR argument! Yay!

 

[brandon2348]

Berrios and Doug Baldwin is an awful comparison. Awful. Awful. Awful.

Why don't you think Miller can play outside?

Would you prefer "Cole Beasley" comparison to Berrios?

If you read my entire post I stated "Miller could play outside in a pinch" but I believe he transitions best in the NFL in the inside at 5'11 200 IlBs. I understand you have this infatuation to go smaller on the outside but IMO it takes away from AR12's elite ability to throw bigger recievers open in tight windows where only our guy can get it. I'm just not sold that Miller is the right scheme fit on the outside with the way the Packers offense rolls.

If we were looking for a replacement for Adams on the outside I would me more drawn to the possibilities of Miller on the outside but thats not the case. I want a replacement for Jordy who is a long strider and with Sutton we just dont replace that but atheltically upgrade the position as well with Sutton.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I have a 3rd round grade on him as well. He reminds me of Dwayne Allen when I watch him play some may disagree. In my notebook he will be 5th TightEnd off the board. I still think Gesickie will be the best in this draft but Ian Thomas will have a solid career also if he can stay healthy which he struggled with last year. If we have the chance I say draft Gesickie in 2nd or Thomas in 3rd or Fumagalli in 4th. Another late round TE Ethan Wolfe is very underrated. If we choose not to draft a TE I like Cam Serigne as a priority free agent. This kid loves football gives his all and has heart of a lion.

Ethan Wolf ran a 4.98... that is slower than a lot of O-lineman.

 

[GleefulGary]

Would you prefer "Cole Beasley" comparison to Berrios?

If you read my entire post I stated "Miller could play outside in a pinch" but I believe he transitions best in the NFL in the inside at 5'11 200 IlBs. I understand you have this infatuation to go smaller on the outside but IMO it takes away from AR12's elite ability to throw bigger recievers open in tight windows where only our guy can get it. I'm just not sold that Miller is the right scheme fit on the outside with the way the Packers offense rolls.

If we were looking for a replacement for Adams on the outside I would me more drawn to the possibilities of Miller on the outside but thats not the case. I want a replacement for Jordy who is a long strider and with Sutton we just dont replace that but atheltically upgrade the position as well with Sutton.

If anybody has an infatuation with size, it's you buddy. Compensating for something there?

I was just curious if you thought that about Miller purely because of his size or because of his tape. I know now. Thanks!

 

[brandon2348]

If anybody has an infatuation with size, it's you buddy. Compensating for something there?

I was just curious if you thought that about Miller purely because of his size or because of his tape. I know now. Thanks!

I love tape too!. Go pull some tape up of Aaron Rodgers making some "back shoulder throws" and then envision Suttons atheletic make up on the receiving end of that.

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Add Courtland Sutton to the equation and that science becomes what we call an "Academically Eilte conection".

Glad I could help you out!

 

[Dantés]

As we're through the majority of the process, these are the guys that have emerged as "prospects I love." Not that these are the only players I would like to draft, but they're just guys that I have an affinity for, for one reason or another.

QB:

• Lamar Jackson, Louisville: This is strange because I generally have not been a big "mobile QB" fan, but I believe in Jackson. If the Packers were closer to needing to replace Rodgers, I'd advocate taking him at #14. His legs are enough of a translatable skill to force easy throws open in the passing game, which mitigates his accuracy issues. He can break huge plays open with his legs and with his big arm in the vertical passing game. I think a creative coach could get a lot done there. Day 1

RB:

• Rashaad Penny, San Diego State: I'm from there and an alum so naturally, I'm a homer for Aztecs. But Penny is a stud. Day 2
• Nick Chubb, Georgia: The term is overused ad nauseum, but Chubb genuinely is a "beast" of a running back and I think Michel's presence and his injury are clouding just how good he is. Day 2
• John Kelly, Tennessee: I really like the toughness and versatility of Kelly's game. His style is a little redundant to Jamaal Williams, but if he falls because he's short and slowish, I'd take him for depth. Day 3

TE:

• Ian Thomas, Indiana: Ian Thomas is the most overlooked TE in this class. He has a big NFL-ready frame, plus athleticism, and the strength to develop into a competent blocker. I would not be sorry if they took him in the 3rd round and I would guess he goes higher. Day 2

WR:

• Calvin Ridley, Alabama: I have a "type" at wide receiver. I love technicians who understand the nuances of pacing and route running. Ridley is outstanding in these areas. If the board gets cleaned out of the blue chip defenders in the top 13, Ridley is in my cluster of players I'd like them to take in the first. Day 1
• Anthony Miller, Memphis: I see Miller as a lesser facsimile of Ridley-- similar prospects. I'm not sure if the league is going to see Miller as a 2nd or 3rd round guy, but I like him a lot. Day 2
• Allen Lazard, Iowa State: If the Packers are interested in a big, possession type of receiver at a value, I like Lazard. He offers some (note: S-O-M-E) of the same skills as a guy like Sutton, but at a discount. Day 3

OL:

• Austin Corbett, Nevada: Corbett just narrowly misses on the Packers' "type" of OL athletically, and otherwise totally looks like a Packer. He's versatile and capable. Day 2
• Joe Noteboom, TCU: The thresholds in athletic testing that the Packers have used have proven to be pretty effective. So I hope that Gute sticks with it. Noteboom is one of the guys that fits in this class and his name is fun to say. Day 3
• Scott Quessenberry, UCLA: Ditto, but instead of OT/G like Noteboom, Quessenberry is C/G. Day 3

Edge:

• Harold Landry, Boston College: I'm all about athletic traits when it comes to edge rushers. Landry's place him in elite company. Day 1
• Josh Sweat, Florida State: Sweat's deployment at FSU didn't allow him to use his talent as a pure edge guy, but he's both explosive and flexible. Day 2
• Sam Hubbard, Ohio State: I'm a sucker for a big edge with a great three cone. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. Day 2
• Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma: I pulled together a lot of data, takes, and watched a little on Okoronkwo and I came to the conclusion that if he was 1.5" taller, he'd be on the day 1/2 bubble. If he makes it to round 3, I think that's great value. Day 2
• Dorance Armstrong, Kansas: Armstrong has a lot of length and solid athleticism. I think scheme is hiding some of his value. Day 3

LB:

• Roquan Smith, UGA: Everybody knows who this guy is. I have a crush on him. Day 1
• Fred Warner, BYU: My consolation prize at WILB. Day 2

CB:

• Jaire Alexander, LOU: I love how feisty Alexander is. And despite being short, he isn't small. He's another that, if he falls because of an injury-plagued 2017, I think you're getting a bargain. Day 2
• Isaac Yiadom, Boston College: Yiadom has length, he uses it well in press technique, and he plays with an edge. Also reportedly a really good ST coverage player. Day 2
• M.J. Stewart, UNC: A do-everything DB whose home would likely be in the slot-- sort of a Micah Hyde but with more actual cornerback coverage skills. Day 2/3?

 

[Dantés]

I think it has to do more with what teams "value". All you have to do is look at what receivers got paid this past free agency. Paul Richardson "40 million dollar contract" and 16-17 million a year to Watkins and Robinson. None of these guys were even pro bowlers.

Show me another postion group that got paid that kind of money other then QB or corner? Certainly not any LB or D-Lineman got paid that kind of money

Like ive posted all along teams will reach several picks for a chance at an elite receiver all day long. There just that valuable. I know as far as Green Bay the attitude is to just draft them on day 3 and put it all on Rodgers to be "Houdini" but our receiving corp overall sucks and I'm sure Rodgers is getting worn on it as well.

Brandon... don't you realize that when you say patently untrue things, you're just discrediting yourself? Seriously now- I'm trying to be helpful- when you just make stuff up, it's impossible to take you seriously. Rodgers has had one of the best receiving corps in the league for a long time and the three starters were all taken in the 2nd round. The starters that preceded Adams and Cobb, Jennings and Jones, were also Day 2 picks. This is not even remotely contestable. How am I supposed to interact with you when you're saying stuff like that?

But yes, the WR position is one of the most valuable. QB is #1, followed by EDGE and OT. CB and WR are right there as well. Essentially if you primarily impact the passing game, you're valuable. That still doesn't mean that people have to agree with taking players at those positions high in the draft if they think they're bad picks.

 

[brandon2348]

As we're through the majority of the process, these are the guys that have emerged as "prospects I love." Not that these are the only players I would like to draft, but they're just guys that I have an affinity for, for one reason or another.

QB:

• Lamar Jackson, Louisville: This is strange because I generally have not been a big "mobile QB" fan, but I believe in Jackson. If the Packers were closer to needing to replace Rodgers, I'd advocate taking him at #14. His legs are enough of a translatable skill to force easy throws open in the passing game, which mitigates his accuracy issues. He can break huge plays open with his legs and with his big arm in the vertical passing game. I think a creative coach could get a lot done there. Day 1

RB:

• Rashaad Penny, San Diego State: I'm from there and an alum so naturally, I'm a homer for Aztecs. But Penny is a stud. Day 2
• Nick Chubb, Georgia: The term is overused ad nauseum, but Chubb genuinely is a "beast" of a running back and I think Michel's presence and his injury are clouding just how good he is. Day 2
• John Kelly, Tennessee: I really like the toughness and versatility of Kelly's game. His style is a little redundant to Jamaal Williams, but if he falls because he's short and slowish, I'd take him for depth. Day 3

TE:

• Ian Thomas, Indiana: Ian Thomas is the most overlooked TE in this class. He has a big NFL-ready frame, plus athleticism, and the strength to develop into a competent blocker. I would not be sorry if they took him in the 3rd round and I would guess he goes higher. Day 2

WR:

• Calvin Ridley, Alabama: I have a "type" at wide receiver. I love technicians who understand the nuances of pacing and route running. Ridley is outstanding in these areas. If the board gets cleaned out of the blue chip defenders in the top 13, Ridley is in my cluster of players I'd like them to take in the first. Day 1
• Anthony Miller, Memphis: I see Miller as a lesser facsimile of Ridley-- similar prospects. I'm not sure if the league is going to see Miller as a 2nd or 3rd round guy, but I like him a lot. Day 2
• Allen Lazard, Iowa State: If the Packers are interested in a big, possession type of receiver at a value, I like Lazard. He offers some (note: S-O-M-E) of the same skills as a guy like Sutton, but at a discount. Day 3

OL:

• Austin Corbett, Nevada: Corbett just narrowly misses on the Packers' "type" of OL athletically, and otherwise totally looks like a Packer. He's versatile and capable. Day 2
• Joe Noteboom, TCU: The thresholds in athletic testing that the Packers have used have proven to be pretty effective. So I hope that Gute sticks with it. Noteboom is one of the guys that fits in this class and his name is fun to say. Day 3
• Scott Quessenberry, UCLA: Ditto, but instead of OT/G like Noteboom, Quessenberry is C/G. Day 3

Edge:

• Harold Landry, Boston College: I'm all about athletic traits when it comes to edge rushers. Landry's place him in elite company. Day 1
• Josh Sweat, Florida State: Sweat's deployment at FSU didn't allow him to use his talent as a pure edge guy, but he's both explosive and flexible. Day 2
• Sam Hubbard, Ohio State: I'm a sucker for a big edge with a great three cone. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. Day 2
• Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma: I pulled together a lot of data, takes, and watched a little on Okoronkwo and I came to the conclusion that if he was 1.5" taller, he'd be on the day 1/2 bubble. If he makes it to round 3, I think that's great value. Day 2
• Dorance Armstrong, Kansas: Armstrong has a lot of length and solid athleticism. I think scheme is hiding some of his value. Day 3

LB:

• Roquan Smith, UGA: Everybody knows who this guy is. I have a crush on him. Day 1
• Fred Warner, BYU: My consolation prize at WILB. Day 2

CB:

• Jaire Alexander, LOU: I love how feisty Alexander is. And despite being short, he isn't small. He's another that, if he falls because of an injury-plagued 2017, I think you're getting a bargain. Day 2
• Isaac Yiadom, Boston College: Yiadom has length, he uses it well in press technique, and he plays with an edge. Also reportedly a really good ST coverage player. Day 2
• M.J. Stewart, UNC: A do-everything DB whose home would likely be in the slot-- sort of a Micah Hyde but with more actual cornerback coverage skills. Day 2/3?

I think that list is a masterpiece other then Ridley who doesn't belong even being a day 1 consideration IMO. I would add Carlton Davis, Genard Avery and of course the "prize possession" Courtland Sutton. Possibly Hughes over Alexander but I like them both. Just tired of players that are always nicked up.

See, we agree more then you think.

 

[GleefulGary]

I love love love Mike Hughes, and I think if he's there in the 2nd you have to trade up for him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cover_1_/status/963153535037788162/video/1

Watch this play against a much bigger WR. He's giving up 4", 30 lbs and he shuts this down. Go get him.

 

[GleefulGary]

I think that list is a masterpiece other then Ridley who doesn't belong even being a day 1 consideration IMO. I would add Carlton Davis, Genard Avery and of course the "prize possession" Courtland Sutton. Possibly Hughes over Alexander but I like them both. Just tired of players that are always nicked up.

See, we agree more then you think.

Alexander has been injured the same amount as Sutton. Just sayin.

 

[Dantés]

I think that list is a masterpiece other then Ridley who doesn't belong even being a day 1 consideration IMO. I would add Carlton Davis, Genard Avery and of course the "prize possession" Courtland Sutton. Possibly Hughes over Alexander but I like them both. Just tired of players that are always nicked up.

See, we agree more then you think.

I like Davis and Hughes quite a bit. They're just not favored enough to make the list I guess. I don't know much about Avery.

 

[GleefulGary]

I like Davis and Hughes quite a bit. They're just not favored enough to make the list I guess. I don't know much about Avery.

I've heard people talk about Avery in a good way, but I haven't looked at anything about him.

Not a fan of Carlton Davis. He got called for 6 DPI last year. They call that a ton harder in the NFL. He's got the physical tools, but I think there are better CB's in his range. If he's there in the 3rd, I'm fine with it. If he's there in the 2nd, and a guy like Hughes/Alexander or so are there, I'd much rather have them. Even the guy from UNC possibly. Actually, now that I'm thinking of it, I like Quinton Meeks better than Davis too. That guy knows how to play CB. Davis, not so much.

 

[brandon2348]

I like Davis and Hughes quite a bit. They're just not favored enough to make the list I guess. I don't know much about Avery.

Avery is an under the radar prospect. Played outside at Memphis but will transition inside in NFL. He would be a huge upgrade over Ryan.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

What do people think about Kemoko Turay?

 

[Arthur Squires]

If there's any Carl Lawson in this draft (3rd day good edge rusher) it's going to be Duke Ejiofor.

Mine would be Marcell Frazier early 3rd round pick that will contribute right away.

 

[brandon2348]

As we're through the majority of the process, these are the guys that have emerged as "prospects I love." Not that these are the only players I would like to draft, but they're just guys that I have an affinity for, for one reason or another.

QB:

• Lamar Jackson, Louisville: This is strange because I generally have not been a big "mobile QB" fan, but I believe in Jackson. If the Packers were closer to needing to replace Rodgers, I'd advocate taking him at #14. His legs are enough of a translatable skill to force easy throws open in the passing game, which mitigates his accuracy issues. He can break huge plays open with his legs and with his big arm in the vertical passing game. I think a creative coach could get a lot done there. Day 1

RB:

• Rashaad Penny, San Diego State: I'm from there and an alum so naturally, I'm a homer for Aztecs. But Penny is a stud. Day 2
• Nick Chubb, Georgia: The term is overused ad nauseum, but Chubb genuinely is a "beast" of a running back and I think Michel's presence and his injury are clouding just how good he is. Day 2
• John Kelly, Tennessee: I really like the toughness and versatility of Kelly's game. His style is a little redundant to Jamaal Williams, but if he falls because he's short and slowish, I'd take him for depth. Day 3

TE:

• Ian Thomas, Indiana: Ian Thomas is the most overlooked TE in this class. He has a big NFL-ready frame, plus athleticism, and the strength to develop into a competent blocker. I would not be sorry if they took him in the 3rd round and I would guess he goes higher. Day 2

WR:

• Calvin Ridley, Alabama: I have a "type" at wide receiver. I love technicians who understand the nuances of pacing and route running. Ridley is outstanding in these areas. If the board gets cleaned out of the blue chip defenders in the top 13, Ridley is in my cluster of players I'd like them to take in the first. Day 1
• Anthony Miller, Memphis: I see Miller as a lesser facsimile of Ridley-- similar prospects. I'm not sure if the league is going to see Miller as a 2nd or 3rd round guy, but I like him a lot. Day 2
• Allen Lazard, Iowa State: If the Packers are interested in a big, possession type of receiver at a value, I like Lazard. He offers some (note: S-O-M-E) of the same skills as a guy like Sutton, but at a discount. Day 3

OL:

• Austin Corbett, Nevada: Corbett just narrowly misses on the Packers' "type" of OL athletically, and otherwise totally looks like a Packer. He's versatile and capable. Day 2
• Joe Noteboom, TCU: The thresholds in athletic testing that the Packers have used have proven to be pretty effective. So I hope that Gute sticks with it. Noteboom is one of the guys that fits in this class and his name is fun to say. Day 3
• Scott Quessenberry, UCLA: Ditto, but instead of OT/G like Noteboom, Quessenberry is C/G. Day 3

Edge:

• Harold Landry, Boston College: I'm all about athletic traits when it comes to edge rushers. Landry's place him in elite company. Day 1
• Josh Sweat, Florida State: Sweat's deployment at FSU didn't allow him to use his talent as a pure edge guy, but he's both explosive and flexible. Day 2
• Sam Hubbard, Ohio State: I'm a sucker for a big edge with a great three cone. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. Day 2
• Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma: I pulled together a lot of data, takes, and watched a little on Okoronkwo and I came to the conclusion that if he was 1.5" taller, he'd be on the day 1/2 bubble. If he makes it to round 3, I think that's great value. Day 2
• Dorance Armstrong, Kansas: Armstrong has a lot of length and solid athleticism. I think scheme is hiding some of his value. Day 3

LB:

• Roquan Smith, UGA: Everybody knows who this guy is. I have a crush on him. Day 1
• Fred Warner, BYU: My consolation prize at WILB. Day 2

CB:

• Jaire Alexander, LOU: I love how feisty Alexander is. And despite being short, he isn't small. He's another that, if he falls because of an injury-plagued 2017, I think you're getting a bargain. Day 2
• Isaac Yiadom, Boston College: Yiadom has length, he uses it well in press technique, and he plays with an edge. Also reportedly a really good ST coverage player. Day 2
• M.J. Stewart, UNC: A do-everything DB whose home would likely be in the slot-- sort of a Micah Hyde but with more actual cornerback coverage skills. Day 2/3?

I would also add Antonio Callaway to that list if we get a receiver with size early.

I prefer Sutton and Callaway to Lazard and Ridley.

 

[Arthur Squires]

Sutton is a top ten talent as far as Im concerned and the fact that Mike Williams went 7th last year kind of cements that.

Ateman and Cobbs concern me. They tested like a lot of people "thought" Sutton was gonna test. They still have size and might be worth mid to late round. These guys just appear to be more of G. Allison to me. Lazard might be more of a receiving TE then receiver.

I really do like this Miller and think he could be even better then Cobb. I think its a pipe dream to make him an outside fixture(as some have suggested) but could play out there in a pinch. I like Antonio Callaway better but wouldnt complain a bit if we got Miller.

Berrios is a late round sleeper. Maybe he is the next Doug Baldwin or maybe just another nice college player that cant get it done in NFL.

I don't see Sutton making it past #19 Dallas. Ateman will be a round 2 WR and has the talent to be a solid #2 within a few years. Anthony Miller I have going late 1st and being a stud. I do think we would draft Cobbs or Lazard in middle rounds if we go WR there. If you watch Berrios run routes you see how dedicated he is to get open.