Prospects You Love

[brandon2348]

I also think the CB most reminiscent of Richard Sherman is not Carlton Davis, but a fellow Stanford alumni in Quenton Meeks.

Big, quick, agile, strong.

I really, really, really, really want Quenton Meeks. And if he doesn't work at CB, he can move to be a single high S.

Well if Thompson was still in charge you'd probably get Meeks and Dante Pettis. Thank god he is not. If Pettis is there answer at WR I will probably faint.

Proceed with caution in regards to the Pac 12

 

[Dantés]

Good thing I held back a bit or you REALLY would have wondered. I think Brandon and JJ need their own room. Maybe the mods can peak in on them from time to time to make sure one hasn't killed and eaten the other. Who knows, could be the start of something special and their own 2 AM internet show?

Actually, since you brought it up, Sutton is a master craftsman and could probably build them their own room and recording studio. He’s also the best in this class at killing and eating others so he can likely offer some pointers in that regard.

This plan might have some legs.

 

[PackFan2]

WR Antonio Callaway of Florida gators maybe a late steal or free agent grab. Offfield issues. Scouts says he plays like stephon diggs. Offers special teams and looks to be able to do damage with ball in hand, maybe percy Harvin player. He recently had a kid I hope that gets his head on straight.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

If Geronimo Allison wasnt penciled in as our starter currently it wouldnt be such a big deal and I would of left it alone long ago. But thats the reality. Allison is a roster fill out guy. Certainly not a starter and certainly not what AR12 needs to he successful. As much as I like Adams he is a tweener no.1. Cobb is just okay and you gotta factor in injuries. This current cocktail of receivers isnt gonna produce the result were looking for and if it runs live this way it wont be long before people will be saying Rodgers is washed up like they did in 2015.

I like Geronimo quite a bit actually. I picked him to make the team as an UDFA when everyone was saying there was no way he'd make it on the team with Davis and Janis being on the team.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

WR Antonio Callaway of Florida gators maybe a late steal or free agent grab. Offfield issues. Scouts says he plays like stephon diggs. Offers special teams and looks to be able to do damage with ball in hand, maybe percy Harvin player. He recently had a kid I hope that gets his head on straight.

An actual comp that I saw for Callaway was Sterling Sharpe. I'm not sure I would go that far, but he's definitely talented. As someone else here said, he just had a child so it might help get him straight. I would love to take a chance on him in the mid to late rounds. He has all the talent in the world, but had crappy qb play and ridiculously bad off-field issues.

 

[GleefulGary]

Well if Thompson was still in charge you'd probably get Meeks and Dante Pettis. Thank god he is not. If Pettis is there answer at WR I will probably faint.

Proceed with caution in regards to the Pac 12

For sure. That Kenny Clark fella and Blake Martinez guy have been major busts for us. Hey. Where did Richard Sherman graduate from? He couldn't have played in the PAC-12, did he? They only have soft players.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I gotta believe the Packers have a receiver targeted they Love early in this draft if they wouldnt even pay Matthews 5 million.

You dont pay a QB 30 million guaranteed and then force feed him Geronimo Allison. The Saints would never do that with Brees. The Pats wouldnt with Brady and the Falcons certainly wouldnt with Ryan.

It would be a whole new level of arrogance to roll with what we have and draft a receiver mid round.

Actually, the Pats did do that with Brady, besides Moss, they brought in some mid-level talent, but nobody that was really a clear cut number one. Brady has really played with small quick receivers and Gronk, no one on the level of Julio.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

This really sucks for Street: https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/981739441596313601

However, he might drop a bit and we could pick him up later for DL depth. I want part of the NC State defensive line lol.

 

[Dantés]

For sure. That Kenny Clark fella and Blake Martinez guy have been major busts for us. Hey. Where did Richard Sherman graduate from? He couldn't have played in the PAC-12, did he? They only have soft players.

I move we begin drafting exclusively from the AAC. That's where real football lives on!

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I move we begin drafting exclusively from the AAC. That's where real football lives on!

That's not a bad idea, maybe make it a deadly trio by signing free agents exclusively from the CFL and AFL.

 

[brandon2348]

For sure. That Kenny Clark fella and Blake Martinez guy have been major busts for us. Hey. Where did Richard Sherman graduate from? He couldn't have played in the PAC-12, did he? They only have soft players.

Yeah I'm blinded by the greatness of it. Fraud conference that doesn't even deserve to be in power 5 currently. Thomspon kept using it as his bread and butter as it was 2004-2005 and of course our defenses showed it by being ranked at the bottom of the NFL for several years.


https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/15/17123604/pac-12-football-basketball-march-madness-bowl-record

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Yeah I'm blinded by the greatness of it. Fraud conference that doesn't even deserve to be in power 5 currently. Thomspon kept using it as his bread and butter as it was 2004-2005 and of course our defenses showed it by being ranked at the bottom of the NFL for several years.


https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/15/17123604/pac-12-football-basketball-march-madness-bowl-record

I'm sorry, why does a conference bowl record matter when evaluating talent?

 

[brandon2348]

I like Geronimo quite a bit actually. I picked him to make the team as an UDFA when everyone was saying there was no way he'd make it on the team with Davis and Janis being on the team.

I had him too on my UDFA watch list and thought he had outside shot at making team. Nice depth guy in a pinch but were lying to ourselves if we think he is gonna hit the 60 catch threshold. Might be a better version of Boykin. If were questioning Suttons ability to seperate then were falling off the tree with Allison.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I had him too on my UDFA watch list and thought he had outside shot at making team. Nice depth guy in a pinch but were lying to ourselves if we think he is gonna hit the 60 catch threshold. Might be a better version of Boykin. If were questioning Suttons ability to seperate then were falling off the tree with Allison.

Allison runs some great routes which leads to separation. I don't know if you remember, but the year before last when are wide receivers were having trouble getting open, Allison was getting free a lot.

 

[brandon2348]

I'm sorry, why does a conference bowl record matter when evaluating talent?

Yeah lets go draft Vea and trade back up for LVE and then draft Meeks and top it off with Dante Pettis and be mediocre. That would be so Ted Thompson.

Geez, the whole thing is giving me PTSD. Were so lucky we have Gute in there.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Yeah lets go draft Vea and trade back up for LVE and then draft Meeks and top it off with Dante Pettis and be mediocre. That would be so Ted Thompson.

Geez, the whole thing is giving me PTSD. Were so lucky we have Gute in there.

I'd be ok with all of this besides Pettis. It would probably be like when the Ravens had Haloti Ngata and Terrell Suggs on the same team who were from... you guessed it, the Pac-12.

 

[brandon2348]

Allison runs some great routes which leads to separation. I don't know if you remember, but the year before last when are wide receivers were having trouble getting open, Allison was getting free a lot.

And I like Allison and agree there is some value there but I think were just kidding ourselves that he is a day in day out no.2 or even no.3 reciever. I liked Ladarius Gunter too and his scrappy demeanor but that doesnt mean I want him to be our starting corner.

We need to get more talented and penciling Allison outside opposite Adams is a backwards move.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I move we begin drafting exclusively from the AAC. That's where real football lives on!

How about just the first 3 players of our choice from each of Ohio State and Alabama?

 

[brandon2348]

I will add one caveat to that. If we had some elite defense with shutdown corners and a fierce pass rush we would probably be okay with Allison but we dont.

Im excited about Pettine as much as anyone but to think he is gonna take this D from where it was to elite with additions of Mo. Wilk and Tra Williams and a couple high draft picks is probably wishful thinking.

We need to keep the offense burning hot. Its our bread and butter and get Rodgers some weapons for gods sake.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

An actual comp that I saw for Callaway was Sterling Sharpe. I'm not sure I would go that far, but he's definitely talented. As someone else here said, he just had a child so it might help get him straight. I would love to take a chance on him in the mid to late rounds. He has all the talent in the world, but had crappy qb play and ridiculously bad off-field issues.

I made the comment about Callaway recently becoming a Dad and I think that could be a definite positive in his life. However, I wouldn't want to spend anything other than a 5th or later on a guy who was suspended and out of football last year and prior to that had a whole lot of off the field issues. The year off isn't a deal breaker, but if he hasn't cleaned up his act substantially from what looked like the classic case of a college star thinking he could get away with anything, I wouldn't even invite him as an UDFA.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And I like Allison and agree there is some value there but I think were just kidding ourselves that he is a day in day out no.2 or even no.3 reciever. I liked Ladarius Gunter too and his scrappy demeanor but that doesnt mean I want him to be our starting corner.

We need to get more talented and penciling Allison outside opposite Adams is a backwards move.

I am with you on this one, I think the Packers are dangerously thin at WR. Imagine if Adams went down early in the season. Even if he doesn't, I don't expect that he, Cobb and whoever the 3rd is, to be healthy for all 16+ games. While I would like to see a rookie step in as our #3 or #4, I don't think you can bank on it happening. So that leaves you will Allison, Clark, Davis and Yancey for now and that doesn't get me too excited.

I don't think the Packers were pursuing Jordan Matthews because they were satisfied with the position going into the draft, so if Matthews isn't signed, I still expect at least one veteran to be signed between now and camp, as well as a relatively high pick used on a WR.

 

[PackFan2]

I made the comment about Callaway recently becoming a Dad and I think that could be a definite positive in his life. However, I wouldn't want to spend anything other than a 5th or later on a guy who was suspended and out of football last year and prior to that had a whole lot of off the field issues. The year off isn't a deal breaker, but if he hasn't cleaned up his act substantially from what looked like the classic case of a college star thinking he could get away with anything, I wouldn't even invite him as an UDFA.

If packers ask for a private workout from him. There's an increase likelihood of Callaway getting picked in late round or FA pick up. ex: Yancey and Amichia from last years draft others before like Gmo.Allison.

 

[brandon2348]

I made the comment about Callaway recently becoming a Dad and I think that could be a definite positive in his life. However, I wouldn't want to spend anything other than a 5th or later on a guy who was suspended and out of football last year and prior to that had a whole lot of off the field issues. The year off isn't a deal breaker, but if he hasn't cleaned up his act substantially from what looked like the classic case of a college star thinking he could get away with anything, I wouldn't even invite him as an UDFA.

I really don't think he will make to 5th and someone will fall in love with what he can do on field(which is easy too) and take a shot on him in a thin talented WR draft. Tyreek Hill is a success story as a 5th round pick. Marcus Peters sat out a year. Joe Mixon is doing well. Teams are seeing this can work in the right situation.

Now there is obviously still some risk that comes with the whole thing. Will most likely come down to where teams think and what space Callaway is in now.

 

[gopkrs]

I like Geronimo quite a bit actually. I picked him to make the team as an UDFA when everyone was saying there was no way he'd make it on the team with Davis and Janis being on the team.

Doubt if he is a starter at this point but I also like him. But they need to use him right. The idea (which I think McCarthy has) is that all his receivers should be able to play all positions and run all the routes. That is just not right. Geronimo goes deep well. So he can also cut off the deep routes. He can run a medium to deep middle route. But he should not be running routes below the linebackers across the middle like he was a slot receiver. Yeah it could work once in awhile but it not a smart play. I hope we draft a slot receiver/punt returner. Texas A&M in the 2nd? There is at least one other out there but he is lot lighter.

 

[brandon2348]

I am with you on this one, I think the Packers are dangerously thin at WR. Imagine if Adams went down early in the season. Even if he doesn't, I don't expect that he, Cobb and whoever the 3rd is, to be healthy for all 16+ games. While I would like to see a rookie step in as our #3 or #4, I don't think you can bank on it happening. So that leaves you will Allison, Clark, Davis and Yancey for now and that doesn't get me too excited.

I don't think the Packers were pursuing Jordan Matthews because they were satisfied with the position going into the draft, so if Matthews isn't signed, I still expect at least one veteran to be signed between now and camp, as well as a relatively high pick used on a WR.

Its need no.1 as far as im concerened and has already been been put off way to long. At least we have Williams and King penciled in at corner. Matthews and Perry on the Edge. Jones and Dix and Brice at safety. We have a good D-Line rotation and Martinez penciled in inside.

If Devante Adams goes down with this current collection of receivers it will be catastrophic and we arent going anywhere. Dead in the water.