Parsons Trade

[Heyjoe4]

Lukas can play inside as well, and the 3 man edge rotation of Micah, Rashan, and LVN is going to make OC's lose a lot of sleep.

I still don't like losing Kenny. High quality individuals and leaders like that don't come often. Micah is kind of a clown. Hopefully the change of scenery and Lombardi focus keep him in check.

I’ll miss Clark too. A great Packer. But it was time to make a deal like this. And there it was.

 

[milani]

Let's hope so. Claiming a sore back doesn't help in negotiating a huge deal. That's not logical.

But it has been done before and successfully.

 

[tynimiller]

Hadl wasn't considered to be washed up at the time. Nor did he come with a huge guaranteed salary price tag like that of Parsons.

This is a stretch….contracts have to all be considered relative to their time frames bud

 

[DoURant]

Yeah they gave him a huge deal, I think way more than Garrett and Watt got.

Two firsts and Clark was a good deal. The money is just a lot. I’m not unhappy with the deal, but it needs to pay off this season with a SB.

He's also younger than both Garrett and Watt. It's a lot of money, but this is where salaries are going. By the start of next season, someone will have a bigger contract.

As for needing to win the Super Bowl this year, I think a 2 yr window, either this year or next is more of a realistic ask. I don't think anyone had us as the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year prior to the trade, heck, we weren't even thought of as the favorite to win the North Division. However, after this trade we definitely have improved our odds in the Super Bowl Champion conversation.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

That's not what was mentioned earlier in this post by someone. I'm curious what the dead cap from Clark will be in 26-27? Because that's a big part of my unhappiness.

Not having a 1st round picks until 2028 is not wise either. This is the type of stupid *** trade that makes historically ****** teams, stay ******.

Reminds me of them cutting Perry(former 1st rounder?) and the one guy who very much was over achieving at olb. Can't remember his name, but he had like 10 sacks that year. spending all our salary cap we saved up on the smiths, and then spending all our saved up draft capital to trade up for Gary, AFTER we just spent a massive fortune on the smiths. Knowing Gary won't even play for , how long?
That draft, we had a chit load of cap space, and a chit load of draft capital. And we spent it ALL on upgrading 2 OLB positions, and a bench player. The smiths turned out good and stayed healthy. Gary turned out to be a stud. Perry and the other guy exited the league soon after. So that insane day turned out semi decent. Hopefully Parsons makes this deal similarly decent. But the odds are not in our favor. Too many eggs in one basket. Parsons in not prime jj watt. He's not destroying defenses single handedly and getting 20 sacks still like watt was....

Ugh. I'm pissed. All the players we collected. We won't be able to keep half of them. We won't be able to pick up any good free agents won't be able to draft 1st round replacements..... And on top of that, we lost Clark, our anchor.... And a damn good one at that.

Packers haven't had to pay very many recent draft picks a lot of money so just think of the Parsons contract as the cost of having to re-sign an actually good Quay and Eric Stokes.

 

[mradtke66]

I looked up Clark's dead cap in 2026-27

2026 17mil dead, with 14 mils cap saved.
2027 7mil dead. With 20 mil cap saved.

So 24 mil dead ,and 34 mil towards Parsons salary.

Cap hits generally don’t work that way. When you cut or trade a player, you take the hit immediately.

Since this happened after June 1st, maybe it’ll be split over 25 and 26. I’m not up on this specific case as I cannot remember the last time we’ve traded a player this late with this kind of cap hit.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Yep. Gluten was serious when he said this was the year to make a serious run at a SB. His hands were tied as far as defense in the draft and FA, and he had too much to do with the offense.

I don’t mind what was given to get Parsons. I was a little surprised at the contract, compared to Watt and Garrett. But Parsons is 26. Regardless, Gluten took advantage of an opportunity. He’s all in. Go big or go home.

His GD name is Gutekunst. Don't be a d--bag.

 

[DoURant]

That 4.36 40 time....

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[RRyder]

That's not what was mentioned earlier in this post by someone. I'm curious what the dead cap from Clark will be in 26-27? Because that's a big part of my unhappiness.

Not having a 1st round picks until 2028 is not wise either. This is the type of stupid *** trade that makes historically ****** teams, stay ******.

Reminds me of them cutting Perry(former 1st rounder?) and the one guy who very much was over achieving at olb. Can't remember his name, but he had like 10 sacks that year. spending all our salary cap we saved up on the smiths, and then spending all our saved up draft capital to trade up for Gary, AFTER we just spent a massive fortune on the smiths. Knowing Gary won't even play for , how long?
That draft, we had a chit load of cap space, and a chit load of draft capital. And we spent it ALL on upgrading 2 OLB positions, and a bench player. The smiths turned out good and stayed healthy. Gary turned out to be a stud. Perry and the other guy exited the league soon after. So that insane day turned out semi decent. Hopefully Parsons makes this deal similarly decent. But the odds are not in our favor. Too many eggs in one basket. Parsons in not prime jj watt. He's not destroying defenses single handedly and getting 20 sacks still like watt was....

Ugh. I'm pissed. All the players we collected. We won't be able to keep half of them. We won't be able to pick up any good free agents won't be able to draft 1st round replacements..... And on top of that, we lost Clark, our anchor.... And a damn good one at that.

He's actually a lot closer to prime JJ Watt then your giving him credit for

Loved Kenny but he was miscast in the 4-3 and hasnt been a "stud" for a few years.

People hating on this trade are either nuts or dont know just how good Parsons is. If he isnt the best defensive player in the league hes a close 2nd and fills the need this team desperately needed filled.

We just got a 26 year old All Pro edge rusher who doubles as an All Pro stand up linebacker

Hafley having wet dreams about what he can do with Parsons on this defense tonight.

 

[U.P. Packfan]

It is

"Giving up Clark in the deal and absorbing his dead cap now.....WTF is Gute smoking?"

Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't the Cowboys trading for Clark also mean that they are the team responsible for any money owed him at this point. They have acquired his contract!

 

[OldSchool101]

Cap hits generally don’t work that way. When you cut or trade a player, you take the hit immediately.

Since this happened after June 1st, maybe it’ll be split over 25 and 26. I’m not up on this specific case as I cannot remember the last time we’ve traded a player this late with this kind of cap hit.

No you’re correct. It escalates into this years balance sheet. I’m seeing varying amounts and so don’t take this for gospel. I think it’s -$13.1Mil from 2026-2027

I was also wrong on the $45mil. But $47mil annual 3yr guar etc. This is a crazy move.

No WONDER why we cut Simmons! lol

 

[OldSchool101]

Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't the Cowboys trading for Clark also mean that they are the team responsible for any money owed him at this point. They have acquired his contract!

Not sure. Pretty sure GB rips up the old deal though and on our side he’s $47.5M so it’s not an extension it’s a reworked deal.

I’m just thinking Edgerrin Cooper, Quay Walker and Micah Parsons in line? That there. That’s substantial

 

[DoURant]

I'm salivating to see the speed of Edge Cooper and Parsons on the field together. Parsons worst season for sacks in the NFL was last year when he had 12.... but he only played 13 games. A big weakness last year was getting more sacks and pressure on the QB, that has been addressed, and adding Parsons will make everyone else better.

 

[Shaggy]

Are you guys not happy with getting Parsons for 2 first round picks? To much for him?

 

[tynimiller]

Niners gave up more for Trey Lance….

 

[DoURant]

Are you guys not happy with getting Parsons for 2 first round picks? To much for him?

I love the trade, 2 1st Rd picks and Kenny is a lot less than the prior guesses of 2 1sts, a 2nd, a 5th, and maybe Rashan Gary. I think most people are more worried about the financial part of the deal, and how it will effect re-signing our guys up for FA.

 

[DoURant]

Niners gave up more for Trey Lance….

2 1st's and Kenny is about as good as we could ever hope for. I thought it would be a lot worse

 

[tynimiller]

I know folks get mad when I say it but this locks me into thinking Doubs is truly a trade piece depending if some things happen….

If Golden is what it seems (Gold), Wicks drops issues are declining this year and Watson is back sooner it seems….

AND another team has a clear WR2 go down and they need Doubs to fill that role.

If you could get say a 4th & 6th or 5th &7th type deal for Doubs even if you have to toss a say 2027 6th or so in I think you gotta do it as Gute is gonna be very limited this next offseason and remember folks we will have some expiring contracts coming up….Walker, Rhyan, Watson, Doubs, Quay, Enagbare…and even if we have them replaced with guys in house for their roles in 2026 the depth behind is massively hit.

 

[Calebs Revenge]

I am still in shock. Jerry Jones will say that he got a strong run stopper. Are Cowboys taking heat? Has Gute mortgaged the future?

Is Micah worth 4 1st round players......
Maybe......maybe not.
If y'all win a Super Bowl, then it'll be worth it if he gets injured and you guys don't, it will be seen as a waste.....
Only time will tell.
I know you miss 100% of the shots you don't take though.......

 

[Calebs Revenge]

The key against y'all will be run game....no more than 3 second pass plays....gotta get ball out quick.
If y'all have a lead....you'll be very dangerous now.....
If y'all can consistently stop da run......
The north just got a whole lot more interesting.......

 

[Raptorman]

Well, needless to say, I'm not happy about this trade. But I think it will turn out well for the Packers in the long run. It definitely moves them up in the ranks for people predicting them to go to the Super Bowl. He was being wasted in Dallas. This is the kind of trade you get when the team owner is also the manager. Most other teams would have found a way to keep him happy.

 

[tynimiller]

Is Micah worth 4 1st round players......
Maybe......maybe not.
If y'all win a Super Bowl, then it'll be worth it if he gets injured and you guys don't, it will be seen as a waste.....
Only time will tell.
I know you miss 100% of the shots you don't take though.......

4?

 

[RRyder]

I know folks get mad when I say it but this locks me into thinking Doubs is truly a trade piece depending if some things happen….

If Golden is what it seems (Gold), Wicks drops issues are declining this year and Watson is back sooner it seems….

AND another team has a clear WR2 go down and they need Doubs to fill that role.

If you could get say a 4th & 6th or 5th &7th type deal for Doubs even if you have to toss a say 2027 6th or so in I think you gotta do it as Gute is gonna be very limited this next offseason and remember folks we will have some expiring contracts coming up….Walker, Rhyan, Watson, Doubs, Quay, Enagbare…and even if we have them replaced with guys in house for their roles in 2026 the depth behind is massively hit.

Walker and Ryhan were on their last years in GB with their replacements allready having been drafted the last two years in the 1st and 2nd rounds respectively. Those trade doesn't change that. They were gone after this season yesterday. They're still gone

Doubs is one concusion away from retirement and Watson is comming back from knee surgery

Quay and Enagbare are about to have their playing time drastically reduced due to well..... Adding Micah Parsons

Which of those players am I supposed to be worried about losing next offseason when the only one I wouldve batted an eyelash at is/was Quay?

Also removing Clark's 20 million next year alleviates a lot of the cost. They're still more then fine cap wise.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Are you guys not happy with getting Parsons for 2 first round picks? To much for him?

Packers stole Parsons from the Cowboys. I would argue that fair value would be four first round picks. Difference between Parsons and Garrett/Watt is that Parsons is 4+ years younger. You have first round picks to find players like Parsons.

 

[DoURant]

Walker and Ryhan were on their last years in GB with their replacements allready having been drafted the last two years in the 1st and 2nd rounds respectively

Doubs is one concusion away from retirement and Watson is comming back from knee surgery

Quay and Enagbare are about to have their playing time drastically reduced due to well..... Adding Micah Parsons

Which of those players am I supposed to be worried about losing nect offseason when the only one I wouldve batted an eyelash at is/was Quay?

I think Rhyan is the most logical to stay, and possibly let Jenkins walk to do that. I feel either Doubs or Watson will stay, but not both. The rest are probably as good as gone, with Quay as a trade piece after this year.