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Packers Pick #3 Kyler Fackrell - Utah OLB

Discussion in '2016 Draft Archive' started by longtimefan, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. NelsonsLongCatch

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    I feel like Fackrell will be a situational pass rusher this year and get a chance to learn behind Peppers and Perry. He's an outside linebacker. Peppers and Perry are free agents after this season. Packers will try to mold him as an eventual replacement.
     
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    Anybody else realize he's going to be 25 years-old this season?
     
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    I'm really liking this draft so far.
     
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    Damn and he still needs a year in the weight room. Oh well, he projects well at the position if he can put on some muscle and keep his speed.
     
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    Clay Matthews ran a 4.67.
     
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    I agree with you. There's no way TT spent a 3rd rounder on a kid that's going to basically redshirt. He could easily put on a quality 10 pounds between now and the season. This is a grown man we're talking about so I have no concerns about him taking care of his business. I think he could surprise some people in pass rush situations and prove useful as well in zone blitz packages. The more I chew on this the better I like it. He's obviously flawed, hence the 3rd round status, but has plenty of intangibles which should pay dividends during the regular season.
     
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    TT spent a third rounder on Thornton. He's more long term than a redshirt. He spent a fourth on Bradford he's a project player. TT has selected project players in the third and fourth round before I see Fackrell filling the same mold.
     
  8. longtimefan

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    A reach is when posters are sure their assessment is correct, and the entire scouting dept are cluless
     
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    Wasn't Brady Poppigna an older man since he went and did some kind of charity after BYU?
     
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    I'll confess to an error. I mistakenly thought I was looking at a 2015 tape when reviewing this one from 2013:



    There is little question "spastic in space" applies to this earlier performance.

    While he still gets all arms and legs at times, the improvement is drastic, particularly considering he missed 2014. This suggests upside. As a 3rd. round pick I'm on board; the edge rush potential is evident.

    On thing that does concern me is he looks about as slight in 2015 as in 2013, which raises a question as to whether he can put on good weight. I'd like to think the pro training table will make the difference that's needed, but we'll just have to wait and see.

    Like Spriggs, this is a 2017 pick. The only OLB under contract for 2017 at this time is Clay Matthews.
     
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    Capers rarely asks his OLBs to cover other than the occasional zone drop.
     
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    And he would not run that today. Quick, yes. Fast, no.
     
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    Like many, I had little information on this pick. After watching his tape I feel like his strengths are his natural pass rush, his upper body quickness in shedding blocks and last but not least his motor.
    Although Kyler may not have been directly involved on many plays..Kyler never gives up and thus becomes an "opportunistic" player. I saw where he benefited multiple times on tipped passes, fumbles etc.. And when he becomes involved he makes teams pay by finishing nicely with good hands, ball seeking instincts and a strong trunk.
    As an immediate need? Kyler is a bit raw IMO. Kyler has ST teams written all over him. I think with some tutelage might surprise some of us after some seasoning and be a another "Eric Walden" type impact player that can rise to the occasion when it matters most (plays with heart)
    What I do find interesting is that TT seems to be more leaning more "positional need" this year so far and I'm glad because we don't need "flashy", we need guys that will "wear well" like this pick.
    Someone else said above he looks like a wild pony and I sorta agree. I think our staff will harness this energy and get him polished
     
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    They expect him to be a player by 2017, so he will need to hurry up regardless of his age.

    Age is not necessarily a function of the calendar. It's more a question of mileage and the accumulated beatings a guy has taken from HS through into the pros by the time he hits the magical 30 mark..

    It's why Starks got a 2 year contract...he missed his senior year in college to injury and hasn't taken all that many snaps in the pros.

    Fackrell hasn't played all that much football, so consider him a "young 30".

    I've heard it said that Alabama's poor showing in this draft is partly a function of Saban having put a lot of wear on his guys, though I can't say I have a first-hand observation on that score.
     
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    Khyri didn't/doesn't have the passion and drive to play in the league. Bradford went through a position change and has one last chance to prove his worth. Fackrell will be playing the same role he played at US and has years of experience doing so in the 3-4 scheme. The kid has months to beef up and I expect him to so just that. I don't see much correlation between the 3 other than draft placement. We simply disagree on his role this upcoming season. No sweat.
     
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    He didn't put on much but consider his responsibilities, recovered from an acl injury, full-time student and full time Dad. I have to imagine that losing the classes will get him a couple extra hours in the weight room a week.
     
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    Thorton lacked mentally, is he even on a team anymore? I don't expect this guy to bulk up a lot. He's long and lean. He's 25, not 18 or even 20. He's played OLB, I assume he's been working out? Anyone can gain 20 pounds, that isn't difficult. But thinking a well conditioned, physically mature athlete is going to just add 10-20lbs of muscle over a summer without PED's is not very realistic.
     
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    Weights? The guy has to eat!
     
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    I will. Play him at ILB!!!!
     
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    He's come to the right place. Wisco may be average in body weight but Green Bay is a hefty city.
     
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    TT reached with Jordy to........ No one has a clue how these guys will turn out relax and enjoy
     
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    Was there no ILB better than him during the pick?
     
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    This guys is an OLB, not ILB.
     
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    I know. I was thinking we'd draft an ILB first. So an OLB is a bit of a surprise. Was wondering if the ILB cadre is that thin!
     
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    Beer carbs and cheese ought to do it, supplemented by keg tosses.

    I grew up in Milwaukee during the Lombardi years, so I know these things and I know they have not changed. Still a Braves fan too. :(
     

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