Thanks for mentioning the 'wonder' of google. Your post would have been far more friendly if you had just posted the URL without the google snideness. Did it make you feel better?
I think the rosters can be 90 now already. Per over-the-cap Steelers are at 80 and the rest of the teams have 60-79 players except the Bills. Packers are at 60 ATM. I expect them to hit the draft with about 25-28 slots available for draftees and camp bodies. If history holds expect 8-10 of those on the 53 roster in September.added when the roster max is 90. Not exactly sure when that is.
Just last year the league valued these guys at 17 mil. 8 mil is a 50% pay cut...asking prices for Revis and for AD... what makes these old(er) guys ask for so much???
I don't get it... is it pride? Haven't they made enough already???
they're take home at that is what?? 5.5mil
if they took half of that they still bring home around 3 mil(i'm talking after taxes)
so why ask for so much and remain unemployed?
Ted needs to hand the team off to the next guy with a roster full of guys on rookie contracts. Then there won't have to be a "rebuild". Or at least they have a solid base and cap to rebuild fast.I think the rosters can be 90 now already. Per over-the-cap Steelers are at 80 and the rest of the teams have 60-79 players except the Bills. Packers are at 60 ATM. I expect them to hit the draft with about 25-28 slots available for draftees and camp bodies. If history holds expect 8-10 of those on the 53 roster in September.
I think he might consider it when Petersen offers to pay the PackersI wonder what Ted's top dollar is for Peterson?
I stopped forever contemplating player greed when Jones and Kraft invested in on-line football gambling.
Anyway, if somebody pays a player an amount that seems excessive, then the player has been shrewd. If nobody pays it and the player comes down on the asking price we call that a negotiation.
If you want a player to sign with the Packers and don't like the price tag, don't blame the playa, blame the game, quite literally.
Revis and Peterson are HOF caliber players. Seems to me the Packers signed an aging HOF caliber player a few years ago for what? 3 years / $27 million or the like? For a guy they were going play at a position he had not played before?
If somebody wants to pay Revis or Peterson $8 mil, then that's what the market will bear.
Who pays Clay Matthews to pay ILB for top $ three years ago? He wasn't much good at it to begin with, and I wouldn't expect him to be much good at it now. Expect him at OLB. Who else ya got? Even if they took an edge rusher in the first round, guys at this draft position are rarely 3 down OLB players in their rookie year.Don't forget it looks like there gonna pay Matthew's almost 16 mill this season and he is a shadow of his former self. He might even play ILB this year. If that's the case who pays a broken down ILB almost 16 mill?
Who pays Clay Matthews to pay ILB for top $ three years ago? He wasn't much good at it to begin with, and I wouldn't expect him to be much good at it now. Expect him at OLB. Who else ya got? Even if they took an edge rusher in the first round, guys at this draft position are rarely 3 down OLB players in their rookie year.
There's some chatter about Burnett moving to coverage ILB in nickel with Brice moving to safety. Given the high percentage of nickel/dime, which seems to go higher every year, that would make him a de facto starting ILB. This defense is forever behind the speed curve. This would help with the speed-deficient Hyde-Ryan-Whoever charged with handling slots, TEs, RBs. Matthews would not solve that problem. It also gets your best back 7-player in Burnett involved in more plays, if not calling the defense.
That puts pressure on Brice to step up. If that doesn't happen, or they don't select high for a safety , or they don't move Randall to FS where he belongs , they'll back off that plan and regress to what was.
Of course, what we're most interested in is the selection of a speedy press corner to replace Shields who can take on #1 receivers without help so this defense isn't constantly playing 10 against 11 or badly exposed on the perimeter. Capers is first and foremost a man/blitz guy provided he has the horses. However, I won't be shocked, but certainly disappointed, if that kind of guy is not selected and they roll out Randall, Rollins and House as the starting nickel CB group.
Why is it in general.. (not just you) do people use effort to post a question looking for an answer when Google will be faster?Thanks for mentioning the 'wonder' of google. Your post would have been far more friendly if you had just posted the URL without the google snideness. Did it make you feel better?
With the number of leaks that actually start from the Packers front office, I'd say anything published is based on rumors, hearsay, or alternative facts.What I'm reading, is that the packers are interested in Peterson. But not for the asking price...
So apparently the packers think he would fit here... what say all the nay-Sayers?
I don't believe leaks in matters such as this emanate from a front office, assuming there is some actual interest, because there is no advantage in doing so.With the number of leaks that actually start from the Packers front office, I'd say anything published is based on rumors, hearsay, or alternative facts.
or blind devotion and wishful thinkingWith the number of leaks that actually start from the Packers front office, I'd say anything published is based on rumors, hearsay, or alternative facts.
AKA alternative factsor blind devotion and wishful thinking
Remember the crap I took for this idea? Landon Collins was an allpro last year too....www.packerforum.com/threads/idea-for-defense.59316Who pays Clay Matthews to pay ILB for top $ three years ago? He wasn't much good at it to begin with, and I wouldn't expect him to be much good at it now. Expect him at OLB. Who else ya got? Even if they took an edge rusher in the first round, guys at this draft position are rarely 3 down OLB players in their rookie year.
There's some chatter about Burnett moving to coverage ILB in nickel with Brice moving to safety. Given the high percentage of nickel/dime, which seems to go higher every year, that would make him a de facto starting ILB. This defense is forever behind the speed curve. This would help with the speed-deficient Hyde-Ryan-Whoever charged with handling slots, TEs, RBs. Matthews would not solve that problem. It also gets your best back-7 player in Burnett involved in more plays, if not calling the defense.
That puts pressure on Brice to step up. If that doesn't happen, or they don't select high for a safety , or they don't move Randall to FS where he belongs , they'll back off that plan and regress to what was.
Of course, what we're most interested in is the selection of a speedy press corner to replace Shields who can take on #1 receivers without help so this defense isn't constantly playing 10 against 11 or badly exposed on the perimeter. Capers is first and foremost a man/blitz guy provided he has the horses. However, I won't be shocked, but certainly disappointed, if that kind of guy is not selected and they roll out Randall, Rollins and House as the starting nickel CB group.
AKA alternative facts
I'm going to go ahead and say the Christine Michael signing coming at the same time as the alternative fact broke down Peterson visit, go hand in hand..... a message to Peterson that we are willing to play without the hof rb if he doesn't negotiate salary....I don't believe leaks in matters such as this emanate from a front office, assuming there is some actual interest, because there is no advantage in doing so.
This stuff is more likely to come from the player's agent.
It could be a leverage move, but I'm not certain why the Packers would want Peterson. That of course has nothing to do with "leaks" which do not serve the front office.I'm going to go ahead and say the Christine Michael signing coming at the same time as the alternative fact broke down Peterson visit, go hand in hand..... a message to Peterson that we are willing to play without the hof rb if he doesn't negotiate salary....
I'm also going to say that Michael's inability to remember assignments, similar to Janis, is a good indicator that this is a bluff. Michael's skills are great. But he can't seem to put it all together after 4 years in the NFL... you all think Janis a joke, but Michael legit???
So it's a back up plan. More so, it is a leverage move, and insurance move, in the recruiting saga of AP... imo.
No, I don't remember the crap you took last summer. I do recall being quite surprised the Packers did not draft a safety though, and then waited quite a while before grafting a few UDFAs onto the roster like an afterthought.Remember the crap I took for this idea? Landon Collins was an allpro last year too....www.packerforum.com/threads/idea-for-defense.59316
I think your going to be "certainly dissapointed" with the Randall, House, Rollins combo day 1. It's my fear as well. I just don't see a corner at 29 that is gonna come and start day 1 but well see. I see some good prospects but there gonna need time to develop.
This whole situation could of been alleviated if Thompson would of addressed corner in free agency. I pushed for Gilmore but would of been happy if he even would of signed Mo Claiborne on the cheap for a 1 year rental. It would of at least given them some time to develop someone.