Packers free agent rumors?

[Pokerbrat2000]

Taking a look around the league running back is a position in which rookies, even mid- to late-round picks, have more success than at most other ones though.

I agree.....its really odd how that works out. RB's taken rounds 1-3 seem to have about as much chance as RB's taken 4-7. I guess then I can conclude our RB scouting has kind of sucked in the last 20 years?

 

[sschind]

Well....at least we have answers....TT in fact was not on vacation last week when Forte was signed.....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...owboys-bucs-patriots-packers-were-interested/

I like that the Patriots showed minor interest. Everybody and his brother had him on a plane heading to Foxboro as soon as it was announced the Bears were not going to offer him a contract. Most acted like it was a done deal they just had to wait for the date to make it legal.

My preference would be to bring back Starks and look for a potential Lacy replacement in the draft. Lots of thoughts on Lacy and many lead to him not being back after next year. He stays fat and can't cut it so we let him walk or he does OK and we offer him a deal and he balloons up again (so we don't want to offer him a deal no matter what) or he comes in does fantastic and prices himself out of Green Bay. I think it would be an interesting poll question for Packers fans, will Eddie Lacy be with the Packers after 2016? No ifs or buts or maybes, just your yes or no gut feeling.

I really hope Lacy is our guy going forward but I don't want to be caught short after 2016 if he isn't. If we draft a potential replacement we have him for 3 more years and if Lacy's stars line up (in shape, plays well, not too expensive) we resign him as well and have a hell of a 1-2 punch.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think it would be an interesting poll question for Packers fans, will Eddie Lacy be with the Packers after 2016? No ifs or buts or maybes, just your yes or no gut feeling.

Is that buts or butts?

My gut, he will be back in 2017. Reason: He is going to tear it up next season and TT won't let one of his own walk.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I agree.....its really odd how that works out. RB's taken rounds 1-3 seem to have about as much chance as RB's taken 4-7. I guess then I can conclude our RB scouting has kind of sucked in the last 20 years?

True, the Packers haven't had a lot of success drafting running backs after selecting Dorsey Levens in 1994 but they made two great trades to acquire Ahman Green and Ryan Grant.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

My gut, he will be back in 2017. Reason: He is going to tear it up next season and TT won't let one of his own walk.

No matter what happens in 2016 I would have a hard time trusting Lacy to sign him to a lucrative long-term deal after next season.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Probably has been mentioned in the Lacy thread, but since we are talking about him here......Besides his supposed off season conditioning program, the other thing that gives me more confidence in him for 2016 is hopefully a better passing attack and the defense more stretched out. We saw a conditioning issue with him this past year, but I don't think the way the offense was playing or the defenses were attacking us at the line helped him too much either.

 

[tynimiller]

No matter what happens in 2016 I would have a hard time trusting Lacy to sign him to a lucrative long-term deal after next season.

And if I did, it would be only through incentives built into the contract.

 

[Ace]

And if I did, it would be only through incentives built into the contract.

I'm not sure why most contracts are based this way to be honest. If a guy truly wants to play, and believes he can there's no reason to not sign a deal like this right?

 

[Poppa San]

Except for his agent and family telling him to get as much guarantee $$$ as he can. Why should he have his pay dependant on not getting injured.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm not sure why most contracts are based this way to be honest. If a guy truly wants to play, and believes he can there's no reason to not sign a deal like this right?

Two Words: "Status Quo"

I am over simplifying it, but a player/agents goal seems most likely to be to get a contract that guarantees a player the most money based on that players potential. Due to competition to sign players, teams have excepted this way of doing things.

Personally, I would love to see contracts shifted to base pay + incentives. Allowing someone who has a Pro Bowl year to receive the kind of money they actually earned and a former Pro Bowler who had a terrible year receiving the kind of money they actually earned. I doubt it will ever fully happen. But if it ever did, I think we may see guys playing at a higher level for the entire season.

 

[Ace]

Two Words: "Status Quo"

I am over simplifying it, but a player/agents goal seems most likely to be to get a contract that guarantees a player the most money based on that players potential. Due to competition to sign players, teams have excepted this way of doing things.

Personally, I would love to see contracts shifted to base pay + incentives. Allowing someone who has a Pro Bowl year to receive the kind of money they actually earned and a former Pro Bowler who had a terrible year receiving the kind of money they actually earned. I doubt it will ever fully happen. But if it ever did, I think we may see guys playing at a higher level for the entire season.

I get it, and I get that it's a rough sport so incentive based deals don't really fit the bill. I should've probably said I wish more contracts were incentive based like you did lol.

But seriously if more guys bet on themselves and took incentive based deals I wonder how much better the league would be.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I get it, and I get that it's a rough sport so incentive based deals don't really fit the bill. I should've probably said I wish more contracts were incentive based like you did lol.

But seriously if more guys bet on themselves and took incentive based deals I wonder how much better the league would be.

Agreed, it is a rough sport, but so are a lot of other sports/jobs that have absolutely few if any guarantees of full pay if the employee is injured or under performs.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Speaking of "Bonus Pay" based on performance and play.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp.../?hootPostID=7618602196a0956be8b858fa042e51a6

 

[Wynnebeck]

Is that buts or butts?

My gut, he will be back in 2017. Reason: He is going to tear it up next season and TT won't let one of his own walk.

Bingo. Also, Perry's contract has gone through the NFLPA and the Packers are now $15 million under the cap. That effectively should kill the rest of FA until the draft no?

 

[Ace]

Bingo. Also, Perry's contract has gone through the NFLPA and the Packers are now $15 million under the cap. That effectively should kill the rest of FA until the draft no?

I'm not sure I subscribe to this theory. They had money earmarked for Raji obviously, draft should take up another 3-5M. I mean they don't have a ton of money but certainly could sign a couple guys if need be. No one who is left is going to break the bank.

 

[tynimiller]

It effectively takes us out of the Z. Miller discussion though I'd suspect...

 

[Ace]

It effectively takes us out of the Z. Miller discussion though I'd suspect...

He signed with the Bears yesterday.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We might get a little money back with players like Masthay being replaced by rookies or lower paid players, but I don't see that pile of money amounting to a whole lot.

As the payroll adds up with the signing of our own and the need for reserves to sign our own long list of 2017 FA's, its becoming clear that either TT needed to spend less on our own to spend in this years FA market or do what he did, sign our own and see how much was left over for those later FA signings. Not saying either method was right or wrong.

 

[tynimiller]

He signed with the Bears yesterday.

Hang on they got Trevathon, Miller and didn't they also pick up another LB? geesh

 

[Ace]

Hang on they got Trevathon, Miller and didn't they also pick up another LB? geesh

You're talking about the TE correct? And yes they signed Hicks, Trevathan and Freeman as well among others.

 

[Half Empty]

Except for his agent and family telling him to get as much guarantee $$$ as he can. Why should he have his pay dependant on not getting injured.

For the same reason real people have?

 

[Ace]

Packers bringing in Jared Cook for a visit

 

[Vrill]

Packers bringing in Jared Cook for a visit

http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Jared-Cook-who-wouldnt-cost-Packers-a-draft-pick-intrigues-44283942

Don't let him leave town. He'd be a nice pickup.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Jared-Cook-who-wouldnt-cost-Packers-a-draft-pick-intrigues-44283942

Don't let him leave town. He'd be a nice pickup.

Pretty sure it's too late for that. Demovsky reporting that Cook visited the Packers yesterday; doesn't mean Packers won't sign him but I doubt he went to Green Bay to hang out for a few days.

 

[adambr2]

I would be happy to sign Cook, and it's not like I am looking for us to sign guys who would not count against comp picks, but have we gotten to the point where we are ONLY considering guys who wouldn't count against comp pick consideration?