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Packers are hoping they found another undrafted NFL free agent gem in Cody Heiman

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  1. JLW_51

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    Rootin for him
     
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    It isn't a for sure deal he will make the 53 man roster, but with problems at ILB and his ability, he has a good chance.
     
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    That would be a good underdog story if he makes the team. Hope him the best.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing him in camp.
     
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    When did this happen?
    I would like to have UDFAs and draftees and other street FAs beat out established starters as that makes the team even better. Good luck kid.
     
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    It is also kind of a statement as to the quality of your starters that lose their jobs to UDFA's, no?
     
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    A piece written by the guy who said TT wouldn't draft a CB in the 1st.
     
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    Aside of Sam Shields the Packers haven't found any true gems in undrafted free agents over Thompson's tenure.

    The Packers didn't draft a cornerback in the first round. ;)
     
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    Depends on your definition of "gem", I suppose. Players such as Jayrone Elliott, Geronimo Allison, and Lane Taylor have all been solid contributors to the Packers, and there have been others.
     
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    True, but a lot of other teams have had similar success in undrafted free agency.
     
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    Typical article for this time of year. I am betting every UDFA the Packers sign, they hope is a gem. Bet when and if this guy is cut, some poster will remember this article and post their surprise because, "the Packers were high on him"
     
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    My point is that Curly posted that the Packers have had a better track recird than most teams in undrafted free agency which isn't true though.
     
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    They do. They have the 5th most UDFAs pn their roster and have gotten the 5th most starts with 136. When you consider the teams ahead of the Packers are Rams, Chargers, and texans are much less talented and therefore more likely to have UDFAs contribute. Other team is Seahawks, a protege of TT.
     
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    Yes. Think Tori Gurley.

    I have no doubt someone fro the UDFA class will impress and make the squad, and Heiman is as good a guess as anyone I suppose.
     
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    Do you have a link to the information???
     
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    title was "which teams have the most success finding undrafted free agents" article I read was from www.silverandblackpride.com
     
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    I can't find the article and am not sure I consider the Silver and Black pride a credible source. Maybe I have time to analyze the numbers later this week.

    One number I have posted in the past is that least season a total of 104 undrafted players started at least eight games with the Packers being below the league average with two (Taylor and Gunter).
     
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    Absolutely great example of subjectivity/semantics in a sports forum. I was also prepared to jump in with the 'only Shields' comment when this was posted. No problem with saying some UDFAs are solid contributors, but I certainly expect 'gems' to perform much above that status.
     
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    Here is the "Silver and Black" article that was mentioned

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...ve-most-success-finding-undrafted-free-agents

    As far as calling a UDFA a "Gem", I have to agree with the sentiment that they have to do more than just make a team and contribute along the way. If they eventually make a list like these, than "Gem" they may have been.

    http://www.footballperspective.com/the-best-undrafted-players-to-enter-the-nfl-since-2002/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1626464-the-25-best-undrafted-free-agent-signings-in-nfl-history

    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000663921
     
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    I think the method the author used is a bit flawed as a large number of undrafted free agents doesn't automatically mean a team has been successful but might indicate a lack of talent acquired through the draft.

    In addition starts by undrafted players isn't equal to the ones that team found in UDFA immediately after the conclusion of the draft as those guys could have played for other teams in the league earlier as well.
     
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    When Willie Wood, a player who is in the NFL HOF, is not even mentioned in articles of this type, the often youthful writers (of best ever lists) thought process for establishing such a list is highly suspect to me. Some writers and fans insist that championships don't count unless they're from the Super Bowl era. Willie played in the SB and not only made a key interception to help ice the game but he also held the SB record for longest punt return - a record that stood for 17 years.
     
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    Willie was named as #6 in the 3rd article I posted above. Even more interesting with Wood, that was back in the 60's, when I believe there were 20 rounds. Of course only 13 teams were in the league at the time. So quick math...260 players were drafted ahead of Wood becoming an UDFA.

    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000663921

    Kurt Warner seems to be at the top of most lists.
     
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