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Noah Spence

Discussion in '2016 Draft Archive' started by Ace, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    It looks like Dougherty was answering this post yesterday when he wrote:
    ;) http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...ckers-should-pick-pass-rusher-early/80300928/

    He has a pretty good discussion of Spence.
     
  2. Pkrjones

    Pkrjones Cheesehead

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    If Peppers is a 50% of the D snaps player why are the Packers keeping his $10.5Mil cap hit? Got to imagine that money ($8Mil cap savings) can be better spent on Mike Neal AND draft a couple of OLB's (#1 or #2 and then a low rounder) to man that position.

    Calhoun, Dodd or Spence should be available at #27 and Floyd, Fackrell, or Nassib should be around in round 2.
     
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  3. ThePerfectBeard

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    Gregory did have a down rookie season, but a lot of rookie DL have unremarkable first seasons. I know a lot of ours have. He was also battling an ankle injury most of the season. That being said, there's no denying that the Cowboys saw past his off field issues and pounced on what could be a steal. They got a potential top 10 pick in the second.

    As far a Collins, he went undrafted and was able to basically choose his team, but let's not say there's nothing TT could have done. He could have used a late round flier on him. I mean who would you rather have La'el Collins or Kennard Backman right now?

    I get character issues, but we have a strong locker room and with a draft and develop team, you have to take some character risks to get the most talent possible.
     
  4. Mondio

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    I don't have much of an opinion on the draft choices yet, most of them i've only seen highlights of, but there is no question in my mind, that if a premier pass rusher is there at 27 or whatever our pick is, we take him, even over a guy they think might be a pretty good ILB too.
     
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  5. TJV

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    Agreed. As I - and I'm sure others - have posted I think an OLB or DL is much more likely at #27 because there won't be an ILB or TE with an equal or higher grade - or even one close enough to "reach" for.
     
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  6. thisisnate

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    Think I'm in the same boat as most people here. Have been expecting us to draft a pass rusher in the 1st since like the middle of the season and am holding to that. Granted, ya never know who's gonna be on the board come draft day, but at a glance this far out and pre-combine, I'm still leaning towards pass rusher, most likely at LB position.
     
  7. Sky King

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    Information about ecstasy addiction:

    http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/ecstasy.html

    Frankly, I wouldn't touch this guy with a 10' pole if I were TT. Some physical damage may already have been done by this dangerous illicit drug and any such damage may be irreparable, per the linked information. There should be better short and long-term options at #27 than taking a chance on this high-risk player.
     
  8. captainWIMM

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    It is pretty tough to find pass rushers capable of making 10.5 sacks in a season, even with a first-round pick. I would be happy with the Packers re-negotiating his contract but don´t see it happening.

    It´s true that Gregory could turn into a steal for the Cowboys but that´s far from your claim in the previous post that it worked out amazing for them.

    Collins wouldn´t have signed a contract with a team selecting him after the third round and would have reentered the 2016 draft.
     
  9. Vrill

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    ILB Antonio Morrison from Florida might be a good 2nd round pick for us. I really like him.
     
  10. KyraReppe5

    KyraReppe5 "We're going to relentlessly chase perfection."

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    Typically, the Packer's are not the team to give off-field issue guys a chance. Noah Spence has New England (wait, sorry no first round pick), Dallas, Oakland, Cleveland or Buffalo written all over him. He is a great athlete, but not someone the Packer's want to have to worry about off-field. You give a 22 year old kid with a history of ecstasy problems a few million dollars and your asking for trouble. I am not saying he will not stay clean, but typically when players have off-field problems in college it easily translates into their future in the NFL. A player's character is a major part of the equation, imagine trading up and spending money for Johnny Manziel, Aaron Hernandez or Aldon Smith? The risk is rarely worth the reward. Though, you could get lucky and end up with a stand-up guy like Dez Bryant :D (sarcasm only).
     
  11. captainWIMM

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    Morrison would be a huge reach in the second round.
     
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    Point taken.
     
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    An interesting note about Spence and him mostly likely having dropped after his interviews and workouts at the combine is that no general manager or head coach attended his pro day at Eastern Kentucky.

    While representatives from 28 NFL teams were on hand for the event, Tampa Bay defensive line coach Jay Hayes was the only position coach present. Washington's director of college scouting Scott Campbell and Jets senior director of college scouting Rex Hogan were the only front-office executives who attended.

    Typically, teams will send at least one high-ranking member of the front office as part of a large contingent of reps to see top-level players they have high interest in drafting.
     
  14. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Latest CBS Mock Draft has Spence falling past #27, but still staying in the first round. He might be an option.
     
  15. Patriotplayer90

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    I think he should have waited more than a week for his pro day to show that he could improve, but many people think he's the best edge rusher in the draft. His senior bowl performance and the value of pass rushers will likely get him taken in the first. He'd be a perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB, but with Matthews and Peppers, they need to do something about the middle either in the draft or free agency.
     
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    There's no doubt Spence is a highly talented edge rusher but there are several red flags regarding him. The Packers need to add some depth at OLB but I'd rather have Thompson go in a different direction.
     
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    Spence will be this years Randy Gregory.
     

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