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Interesting and thanks.

My gut check is other than the top 2 or so teams, the number of ST penalties isn't too far out of whack. We committed about .3 more penalties per game from being in the top 3rd. Not great, but not horrific.

The yards average over 9 yards per, which strongly suggests to me a lot of holding calls, which does line up with our return units being bad. And is more out of whack that some of the other teams in the league, suggesting a problem.

Of course, holding penalties AREN'T normally "discipline" related either. Players losing sometimes and resulting to holding isn't coaching. Getting out of position, etc. could be coaching.

Sometimes I hate it when the questions just keep going.
 
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Interesting and thanks.

My gut check is other than the top 2 or so teams, the number of ST penalties isn't too far out of whack. We committed about .3 more penalties per game from being in the top 3rd. Not great, but not horrific.

The yards average over 9 yards per, which strongly suggests to me a lot of holding calls, which does line up with our return units being bad. And is more out of whack that some of the other teams in the league, suggesting a problem.

Of course, holding penalties are normally "discipline" related either. Players losing sometimes and resulting to holding isn't coaching. Getting out of position, etc. could be coaching.

Sometimes I hate it when the questions just keep going.
It’s at minimum an area of concern. Whenever you can avoid a flag each game that costs between -10 and -25 yards it needs attention. It’s just an easier area to fix because it’s mostly mental and mostly reviewing and coaching out bad habits and then reminding guys pre game set goals.

If you can get 3-5 yards per punt in blocking skill and avoid 1 flag per game you add like +25 to +30 yards of production. That could be 1 possession that I stall at their 46 yard line and go for it in 4th n 3 rather than being on my GB44 and punting.

This game is about
1. creating your momentum
2. Maintaining your momentum
3. Finishing with momentum.

First thing I’d do is hand out the old 5X7 card with the word MOMENTUM on it for guys to put under their pillow.

Next thing I’d do is individual text each player morning of a game the word momentum.

Then I’d reinforce it every time they get off that field. If you get a flag I want your 5X7 card back. I replace it with one that reads -23 Yards! Until I see improvement. Either that or I have a dead rubber chicken and you wear it in your locker if you play for me. Until the next guy messes up. Only then you hand it to him personally. I’ve used that for team building and you’d be surprised what a Dead Rubber Chicken on a grown man’s desk instills in him.
 
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That one's always a bit of a conundrum.

On one hand you have a guy like Matt, who in my estimation is amongst the best in the league at his *initial* game planning and approach. But I often don't think he adjusts that well when teams punch back, or when his initial plan doesn't work as intended... How many games did we have this year (even wins!) where it felt like we went up early and then had to hang on for dear life in the second half and just hope we'd built up enough of a "cushion" in the first?

And then there's guys like Ben Johnson on the other hand. He DOES seem to adjust well, and usually gets a good response from his team...BUT is also often put into those situations because of bad early-decision making. Like, the Bears/Johnson (and by extension Caleb) have been in situations where they have to make the right adjustments and secure a 4Q comeback precisely because they didn't manage the earlier periods well. Similar to his former team in the Lions, we saw so many instances here where Ben made some questionable 4th down calls and if he'd just taken points in many of these situations they just would've won, no need for 4Q theatrics. It's similar to how I've seen all these folks talk about how fantastic Caleb is in the 4Q, and there's some truth to that, but a lot of the times he's also had to have been Superman in 4Q because he had like 70 passing yards and a passer rating of 40 in Q1-Q3.
And in 2026 Ben may not have to make all those adjustments because his team may not have to come from behind every week. The Bears will likely be even better next year.
 

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I’ve used that for team building and you’d be surprised what a Dead Rubber Chicken on a grown man’s desk instills in him.
Be careful what behavior you are motivating. If I worked somewhere and this was a plan someone came up, my reaction would be seek employment elsewhere.

Humiliating a grown man is not “team building.” That’s tearing him down because you feel small.
 

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So I’m assuming at this point that Bisaccia is just not getting fired? Not even a whisper.
 

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What's the point? Rip it off like a bandaid.
I believe they are afraid that if they cannot get whom they would like would mean they would settle for someone worse. So they may be willing to keep him if the cupboard is bare. Remember that the ST coach has to be able to work with MLF.
 

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I could see them wanting DC input potentially. I’ve always more closely connected DC and ST than ST to OC
 
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Don't get your undies up tight yet fellows, who knows what coach Matt contract reads.
Maybe there's something about a one year turn around with a reduction in pay if we
decide to move on.

Also, someone mentioned good, assisted coaches.
That could be the answer to this very young team which can't be easy to hire.

Injury's. To me this makes a big difference in a building and keeping a winning team.
Attitude to win installed in young players is another.

I'm just glad I don't have to make a decision on who goes and who stays.

Remember there's a lot of teams out there that's building their team for a
chance to win a Super Bowl and it's gets harder every year
 

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I'm generally happy they extended MLF. I do believe he's capable winning the big one.

I like him a bit more than others because I give him a bit of pass for the playoff ST collapses.

One of my major gripes is that he holds onto bad coordinators too long.

If he sticks with Bistaccia, then he gets what's coming to him.

Hiring staff is a BIG part of the gig.
 

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I'm generally happy they extended MLF. I do believe he's capable winning the big one.

I like him a bit more than others because I give him a bit of pass for the playoff ST collapses.

One of my major gripes is that he holds onto bad coordinators too long.

If he sticks with Bistaccia, then he gets what's coming to him.

Hiring staff is a BIG part of the gig.
Asked and answered. I was going to start a negative reply after reading paragraph #2, but then you saved me the trouble with the next three.
 

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Asked and answered. I was going to start a negative reply after reading paragraph #2, but then you saved me the trouble with the next three.
I have more gripes about MLF; my god, the 2nd and long runs. I can't.

I think we're REALLY close. There's been many factors that have been extreme, and when they become favorable or not as bad I think we're going to be a wagon.

A. The team is no longer young pups. They're still a young roster but it's no excuse anymore. We're in a sweet spot.
B. The injuries should regress to the mean. Love two years ago, Parsons/Tom/Kraft/Wyatt and more this. There's gotta be a year when we remain relatively healthy.
C. The Special Teams can't continue to lose play-off games like they have. They probably will be bad still, but I don't think they can be EXTREMELY bad ( and if they are, MLF needs to be held accountable).
 

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I'm generally happy they extended MLF. I do believe he's capable winning the big one.
No indication yet that he's going to move on from Bisaccia. I think MLF has had his chances, but the well seems to be poisoned now. I'm not sure I see many reasons to hope for improvement. Maybe if we stay healthy, as you say. Maybe if the team matures some - they were they youngest team in the league still this past year. I guess I'll just have to hope he does better. It's not like we have a choice, looks like we're stuck with him for the near future. It's like the Gory Years, but more like the Mediocre Years.
 

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No indication yet that he's going to move on from Bisaccia. I think MLF has had his chances, but the well seems to be poisoned now. I'm not sure I see many reasons to hope for improvement. Maybe if we stay healthy, as you say. Maybe if the team matures some - they were they youngest team in the league still this past year. I guess I'll just have to hope he does better. It's not like we have a choice, looks like we're stuck with him for the near future. It's like the Gory Years, but more like the Mediocre Years.
I hear ya man, I do.

After the 1st year of Love where he proved to be the guy I thought the following year would be it. And then this year with Parsons I was over the moon.
 

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Lafleur and Gannon just got the Bills defensive coordinator to sign up as our secondary/def pass coordinator....
I have more gripes about MLF; my god, the 2nd and long runs. I can't.

I think we're REALLY close. There's been many factors that have been extreme, and when they become favorable or not as bad I think we're going to be a wagon.

A. The team is no longer young pups. They're still a young roster but it's no excuse anymore. We're in a sweet spot.
B. The injuries should regress to the mean. Love two years ago, Parsons/Tom/Kraft/Wyatt and more this. There's gotta be a year when we remain relatively healthy.
C. The Special Teams can't continue to lose play-off games like they have. They probably will be bad still, but I don't think they can be EXTREMELY bad ( and if they are, MLF needs to be held accountable).
I seen McManus is making like $5+ mil a year for 4 years or some chit.
 

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At the time of him signing that deal he'd just essentially come in and saved us - earned the deal and then this last year was terrible...
Lafleur and Gannon just got the Bills defensive coordinator to sign up as our secondary/def pass coordinator....

I seen McManus is making like $5+ mil a year for 4 years or some chit.


Coming into the year we thought we were solid going into the season. Then the dude literally costs us a TD worth of points in a playoff game.

I've been a Packer fan a long time. I wish they'd lose in a normal f'n fashion sometimes. Every year it's some weird heartbreaking crap.
 

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After the 1st year of Love where he proved to be the guy I thought the following year would be it. And then this year with Parsons I was over the moon.
What most disturbs me is the failure to finish, and the continuing downward trend. Not only the failure to finish games, but seasons. 0-3 to finish last season, 0-5 to finish this season. And so many games blown late this season. And despite Love being more seasoned, the addition of Parsons, and the young athletes being developed (supposedly), the teams overall performance has degraded each year Love has been starting.
 
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I have more gripes about MLF; my god, the 2nd and long runs. I can't.
I really think we wouldn’t be (including me) be addressing that IF we had a top 10 Run blocking OL, plus 1 upgrade at RB. As much as I like Marshawn we can no longer rely on his services. He’s at best a bonus if he regains health but he can’t be serious consideration for RB2. 2yrs is an anomoly for injuries when you’ve been in the league for 2yrs. Go draft a RB. If we’re thinking moving on from Josh in 1-2 years I’d go after Singleton as a feature Back to groom.
If we’re looking for a 1-2 punch I’d go his partner RB, Allen.

We do have a few nice pieces with Belton and Morgan in the shadows. However I’d upgrade Center. It’s unlikely increasing Sean unless he’s cheap, like $2.5M yearly, which he’ll likely be gone. There’s a nice group of Centers RD2-4 and several would be Rookie Starters.
 

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What most disturbs me is the failure to finish, and the continuing downward trend. Not only the failure to finish games, but seasons. 0-3 to finish last season, 0-5 to finish this season. And so many games blown late this season. And despite Love being more seasoned, the addition of Parsons, and the young athletes being developed (supposedly), the teams overall performance has degraded each year Love has been starting.
Yes! I agree completely. Stop playing down to teams, and when you have them on the ropes, finish the job.

I really think we wouldn’t be (including me) be addressing that IF we had a top 10 Run blocking OL, plus 1 upgrade at RB. As much as I like Marshawn we can no longer rely on his services. He’s at best a bonus if he regains health but he can’t be serious consideration for RB2. 2yrs is an anomoly for injuries when you’ve been in the league for 2yrs. Go draft a RB. If we’re thinking moving on from Josh in 1-2 years I’d go after Singleton as a feature Back to groom.
If we’re looking for a 1-2 punch I’d go his partner RB, Allen.

We do have a few nice pieces with Belton and Morgan in the shadows. However I’d upgrade Center. It’s unlikely increasing Sean unless he’s cheap, like $2.5M yearly, which he’ll likely be gone. There’s a nice group of Centers RD2-4 and several would be Rookie Starters.
That's a very good point. The offensive line was probably the biggest disappointment of the year in terms of units for me. I'm happy with Rhyn coming back on a fair contract. The hope is Morgan's early success as a T carries over to being a full starter, and he's better than Walker ( low bar, Walker was awful this year ) and Belton improves. I'm interested in the decisions they're going to make. Are they really going to get rid of Banks and Elgton? Sheed is gone obviously, but are they going to move on from two guards? Morgan-?-Rhyn-Belton-Tom
 

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I really think we wouldn’t be (including me) be addressing that IF we had a top 10 Run blocking OL, plus 1 upgrade at RB. As much as I like Marshawn we can no longer rely on his services. He’s at best a bonus if he regains health but he can’t be serious consideration for RB2. 2yrs is an anomoly for injuries when you’ve been in the league for 2yrs. Go draft a RB.
We've been running Jacobs into the ground.
 

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It’s not a great draft class for RBs. It’s Jeremiah Love and then a huge drop off.
 

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It’s not a great draft class for RBs. It’s Jeremiah Love and then a huge drop off.

It is Love clearly at the top but it is a serious solid group of 5 or 6 after him that are clear and sure thing backs at the next level and then quite a few highly productive guys that likely could serve as a teams complimentary back year one or two of their rookie deals.
 

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