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Im getting the sinking feeling they are going to regret doing this. Unless MLF has a come to Jesus moment this offseason and changes how he does things on offense. The standard next season has to be winning the division and stopping late game collapses.
 

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Im getting the sinking feeling they are going to regret doing this. Unless MLF has a come to Jesus moment this offseason and changes how he does things on offense. The standard next season has to be winning the division and stopping late game collapses.
Winning the division used to be a given , not a standard. Expectations have fallen greatly.

So disappointed with this organization right now and their good old boy system.
 

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Five losses in a row.
Unbelievable second half collapses.
Can't respond to other teams' adjustments in real time.
Keeps making the same mistakes.

Might be worse than Mike Sherman.
Likes to make the same excuses after every single loss.
For heaven's sake, why couldn't we just kick him to the curb?!
 

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Five losses in a row.
Unbelievable second half collapses.
Can't respond to other teams' adjustments in real time.
Keeps making the same mistakes.

Might be worse than Mike Sherman.
Likes to make the same excuses after every single loss.
For heaven's sake why couldn't we just kick him to the curb?
Not the “Packer Way”, whatever that is.
 

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Lose 5 in a row?

Choke in the playoffs again?

Get rewarded! :cool::cool::cool:

No wonder he loves it here. I would too with the bar as high as it is for him.
Someone sent me the text that he was extended. I asked " How long? A week? "
 

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I’d feel slightly better about this if he committed himself to being a better delegator.

Not trying to to call the plays in, while managing the clock, while adjusting to the adjustments the defense has made, while trying to make crucial 4th down decisions in the moment.

Matt needs time to think and plan, he doesn’t think on his toes well.

But he’s too stubborn to admit this, so nothing will change.
 

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Good. Still a young coach who has been improving and will continue to get better.
He’s literally the 4th longest tenured head coach in the NFL.

And he’s not been improving, he’s been regressing.

How on earth can someone look at his first 3 seasons and look at the last 4 and say “he’s improving” with a straight face?
 

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Im getting the sinking feeling they are going to regret doing this. Unless MLF has a come to Jesus moment this offseason and changes how he does things on offense. The standard next season has to be winning the division and stopping late game collapses.
Me too.

I suspect the Packers won’t make the playoffs, and we’ll be stuck with Matt for another couple of years. I hope I’m wrong.

As for the “standard” next season? Minimum of 1 playoff win.
 

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Me too.

I suspect the Packers won’t make the playoffs, and we’ll be stuck with Matt for another couple of years. I hope I’m wrong.

As for the “standard” next season? Minimum of 1 playoff win.
We will have tough schedule. Every team in the division is tough. I think you gotta take em one game at a time.
 

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I flipped from wanting him out to more of a neutral viewpoint the last week more based on players comments that seemed to be genuinely pro-MLF. Plus I didn't see anyone that really would be the 'savior' of the Packers.

Does he do things that make me pull my hair out? Yes. Will those things continue to happen? Would have to say yes until there is evidence to the contrary. But it is what it is and I'm not going to lose any passion for watching the Packers on Sundays nor am I going to expend energy being upset about it because not a darn thing that I can do.

But I think some fans need to stop with the victimhood stance thinking that we stand alone in some type of misery/luck index. The Ravens haven't had their luck the best over the last 13 years or so (Harbaugh pretty much mirrors MLF in that he had MVP QB play and was 3-6 in playoff games), Bills seem pretty cursed as a franchise. Vikings. Lions. Not to mention the fan bases that pretty much have almost nothing to cheer about (*cough* Browns *cough*) not to mention singular seasons where luck rears it's head (Broncos tonight)

Would we all like runs like the Chiefs/Patriots have had? Of course. But let's not pretend like we have some sole possession of misery in the NFL for fan bases.
 

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I am going to cautiously withhold judgment for the time being until I see what changes are made with regards to the assistant coaching staff and how various responsibilities are delegated around...

I get the sense that any assistant/coordinator changes were pretty much put on hold until Matt and Gute's statuses could get resolved. But now that they are...if we just turn around and run it back with the same staff (presumably less Hafley, but otherwise broadly the same), I'm going to find that AWFULLY problematic. If Matt comes out and is bold enough to mix things up a fair bit, then I will feel a bit more inclined to give it a fair shake...

I don't know. I still have kind of mixed feelings about the whole thing, none of them particularly strong at the moment, just kind of....existing (which I guess is more or less mirroring what the state of the franchise feels like at times lol)

We could certainly do worse than LaFleur but ultimately I still stand by what I've said for months now (in many different ways) and that is that we've already seen our ceiling under LaFleur and I don't anticipate him doing anything to break through said ceiling, so to speak. We will be perfectly respectable, competitive, and on a good day we'll be dangerous enough to threaten anyone. But right now I can't get my hopes up for much more than that. Hope I'm wrong I guess.
 

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I flipped from wanting him out to more of a neutral viewpoint the last week more based on players comments that seemed to be genuinely pro-MLF. Plus I didn't see anyone that really would be the 'savior' of the Packers.

Does he do things that make me pull my hair out? Yes. Will those things continue to happen? Would have to say yes until there is evidence to the contrary. But it is what it is and I'm not going to lose any passion for watching the Packers on Sundays nor am I going to expend energy being upset about it because not a darn thing that I can do.

But I think some fans need to stop with the victimhood stance thinking that we stand alone in some type of misery/luck index. The Ravens haven't had their luck the best over the last 13 years or so (Harbaugh pretty much mirrors MLF in that he had MVP QB play and was 3-6 in playoff games), Bills seem pretty cursed as a franchise. Vikings. Lions. Not to mention the fan bases that pretty much have almost nothing to cheer about (*cough* Browns *cough*) not to mention singular seasons where luck rears it's head (Broncos tonight)

Would we all like runs like the Chiefs/Patriots have had? Of course. But let's not pretend like we have some sole possession of misery in the NFL for fan bases.
I know, some are tired of me wishing MLF wasn't our coach, but I'm definitely not really happy. Look, I'm definitely not expecting a Pats/Brady or Chiefs/Mahomes experience, but does anyone perhaps see any difference? Two possibly HOF QBs and two possibly HOF coaches. I don't think our QB is the issue, so while I think that there definitely are other issues, some of those fall the front office and the coaches. I'll never stop being a Packer fan, but it's been 7 seasons of no winning streaks in the post season without a first ballot HOF quarterback. Excluding 1 HC, is there any HCs (on their original team) out there without even a head coaching SB appearance? I can't think of any and without AR we can't even get out of the divisional round. So was a QB coach getting carried by MVP level QB or was it the coaching that got us there? We keep firing coordinators for some reason the HC (who's greatest achievement was previously as a QB coach) is untouchable? Sorry but after 7 seasons and the 7th ended with a 5 game losing streak that ended with one of the biggest collapses in NFL playoff history, I'm don't want to see this go on anymore. That being said, I bleed green and gold, and I'll be watching and hoping for the SB every year.
 

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I think we have a good enough team to make the playoffs but i don't have any faith that this staff can win when it really counts.

7th seed here we come!
 

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I'm sure the rest of the NFC is absolutely cheering. After-all most have said what a good coach he is. Did you hear the Vikings,Lions, and especially the Bears give out a holler?
Well, I guess we'll find out a year from now.
btw, I'm pretty sure players really don't want to downgrade a coach who hasn't been canned yet.
I hope I'm absolutely wrong but I doubt I'll see another SB victory. Fan for 58yrs.
 

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I flipped from wanting him out to more of a neutral viewpoint the last week more based on players comments that seemed to be genuinely pro-MLF. Plus I didn't see anyone that really would be the 'savior' of the Packers.

Does he do things that make me pull my hair out? Yes. Will those things continue to happen? Would have to say yes until there is evidence to the contrary. But it is what it is and I'm not going to lose any passion for watching the Packers on Sundays nor am I going to expend energy being upset about it because not a darn thing that I can do.

But I think some fans need to stop with the victimhood stance thinking that we stand alone in some type of misery/luck index. The Ravens haven't had their luck the best over the last 13 years or so (Harbaugh pretty much mirrors MLF in that he had MVP QB play and was 3-6 in playoff games), Bills seem pretty cursed as a franchise. Vikings. Lions. Not to mention the fan bases that pretty much have almost nothing to cheer about (*cough* Browns *cough*) not to mention singular seasons where luck rears it's head (Broncos tonight)

Would we all like runs like the Chiefs/Patriots have had? Of course. But let's not pretend like we have some sole possession of misery in the NFL for fan bases.
It’s not so much the losses as always finding a way to do in spectacular choking fashion.

A double digit point lead with under 5 minutes to play feels good for the vast majority of teams.
 

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We will have tough schedule. Every team in the division is tough. I think you gotta take em one game at a time.
Season will be just as tough as this one was. Maybe more. The Pats and Bills. Rams. NFC South. Cowboys.
 

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Season will be just as tough as this one was. Maybe more. The Pats and Bills. Rams. NFC South. Cowboys.
Welcome to the NFL. Once again it will be the team that is healthy and playing well at the end of the year. This year neither of those were us. “We” are not ENTITLED to anything other than peoples best effort. For those who want to give up?… adios
 

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The Packers Board is risk-averse. Again and again, they make conservative decisions with their HC rather than taking a chance when the situation calls for it.

The 2014 playoff collapse in Seattle was a turning point. It changed the team. The Packers chose to retain Mike McCarthy. The Packers were mediocre at best after that.
Now in 2025, the Packers collapse again. 25 points in the 4th quarter, missed FGs and Extra Points, lack of adjustment at halftime. The Packers chose to extend Lafleur rather than moving on from him. Losses like that are not simply forgotten.

Look at what just happened with Josh Allen against Denver. Many are saying, and rightly so IMO, that the Bills' window to make the SB may have pretty much closed. Losses like that devastate a team.

There is a psychological element here. There have been too many late-game collapses under Lafleur. I have no confidence that it will change. But the Packers don't want to take chances and they have not sniffed a SB for the last 15 years.

Lafleur is a good coach but he has proven not to be up to the task in the playoffs.
 

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Welcome to the NFL. Once again it will be the team that is healthy and playing well at the end of the year. This year neither of those were us. “We” are not ENTITLED to anything other than peoples best effort. For those who want to give up?… adios
I don’t truly believe that what is happening in Green Bay right now is the organization’s best effort to field a Super Bowl team.
 

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If Josh wants a SB, he should leave the bills for a coach who can get him to the big game.
Some coaches are exceptional, some are good and lucky, and some are just unlucky.
Buffalo's been given the opportunity but for some reason can't get it done.
 

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