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A somewhat disappointing stat given the way things ended... Passer Rating and QBR for wild-card QBs this year (excl. Texans/Steelers of course)

QBR:
1. Josh Allen 87.2
2. Jordan Love 80.4
3. Bryce Young 74.4
4. Drake Maye 68.9
5. Brock Purdy 60.7
6. Matt Stafford 49.0
7. Jalen Hurts 40.7
8. Caleb Williams 36.9
9. Trevor Lawrence 30.2
10. Justin Herbert 25.0

Passer Rating:
1. Josh Allen 108.7
2. Jordan Love 103.8
3. Matt Stafford 93.8
4. Drake Maye 86.6
5. Trevor Lawrence 86.4
6. Brock Purdy 80.3
7. Jalen Hurts 79.2
8. Justin Herbert 74.5
9. Caleb Williams 71.6
10. Bryce Young 71.2

Love was not perfect by any means. There are still a lot of times where I feel he needs to do a better job of "taking what the defense gives him" rather than forcing things. We all know he is not the quickest guy, but I would like to see him be a bit more willing/eager to take off and run every now and then. We had some crucial drops, our OL collapsed, but overall I think he definitely did "enough" to get us the win. I don't know if it was on him or on LaFleur that we take a stupid delay coming right out of a timeout, that's inexcusable. But if we don't take that penalty, Reed doesn't drop it, we manage clock better, etc then we are probably here talking about how Love did enough to overcome Walker's second half no-show, McManus' bum leg, Hafley's sudden regression to 100-points-conceded-per-game defense, etc.

I think the bottom line is this: If I told you that we would go into a playoff game as the 7 seed, playing the 2 seed, and that Jordan Love would have 300+ passing yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating and 80+ QBR and go on to LOSE, you would say I am bonkers. And nobody would hear that and say "it's probably Love's fault we lost"
Love is a very good QB. His style is understated. We saw CW on the sidelines Saturday night, down by three possessions, exhorting his teammates to do better, reminding them of what was at stake.

Most shots of Love on the bench show him sitting alone and unemotional. He doesn't look like he's involved in the game or with his teammates.

This is just personal style, and Love is not gonna become a cheerleader on the sidelines. Personally I prefer the aggressive style of CW, Rodgers, Favre, and others to "The Stoic". But I'll take Love's on field production any day. He's a v good QB. He's just not a natural leader.
 

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Love is a very good QB. His style is understated. We saw CW on the sidelines Saturday night, down by three possessions, exhorting his teammates to do better, reminding them of what was at stake.

Most shots of Love on the bench show him sitting alone and unemotional. He doesn't look like he's involved in the game or with his teammates.

This is just personal style, and Love is not gonna become a cheerleader on the sidelines. Personally I prefer the aggressive style of CW, Rodgers, Favre, and others to "The Stoic". But I'll take Love's on field production any day. He's a v good QB. He's just not a natural leader.

There are two types of leaders that typically we find in the truly great....stoics or emotional. Neither is better than the other, but one will always be more receptive to one over the other.

CW for sure is an emotional leader, and that swings both ways just because he is a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve. JLove is stoic, poised and rarely likes to let his emotions exhibit. Both can be immense leader types.
 

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There are two types of leaders that typically we find in the truly great....stoics or emotional. Neither is better than the other, but one will always be more receptive to one over the other.

CW for sure is an emotional leader, and that swings both ways just because he is a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve. JLove is stoic, poised and rarely likes to let his emotions exhibit. Both can be immense leader types.
Love is respected by his teammates, if not all of the fans......

He seems comfortable with who he is, and that's reflected in his play. He's playing faster while remaining confident in his decisions. He doesn't get fazed very often.
 

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The Packers have problems that they need to solve in the coaching, playcalling and player areas. Jordan Love is not one of them.
Agreed. Love has gotten better in each of his first three years as a starter.

There aren't very many places where the Packers lack talent, outside a glaring weakness at CB.

Gluten has quietly built a talented, young team. Injuries, for the most part, are unavoidable and took a big toll this season. That's life. We have a lot to look forward to with this team.
 
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I think the bottom line is this: If I told you that we would go into a playoff game as the 7 seed, playing the 2 seed, and that Jordan Love would have 300+ passing yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating and 80+ QBR and go on to LOSE, you would say I am bonkers. And nobody would hear that and say "it's probably Love's fault we lost"
Good stuff.

I’d also add that Jordan is still improving. 2025 had elements of his best season thus far. Each year as a starter he’s made small improvements. No longer are we arguing “he’s not accurate”. That argument faded this year. No longer are we using the “he’s an INT machine” that argument completely disappeared. The arguments hold some validity, but then he surprises and puts them away 1 by 1.
 
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This is just personal style, and Love is not gonna become a cheerleader on the sidelines. Personally I prefer the aggressive style of CW, Rodgers, Favre, and others to "The Stoic". But I'll take Love's on field production any day. He's a v good QB. He's just not a natural leader.
Good observations.

On the Leader part, while it’s true compared to born leader types, I’m not as concerned because I believe leading by example on the field is the best way to lead. As long as Jordan doesn’t think he’s figured it all out we’re going to be fine. If there was QB draft today, Love would be in the Playoff caliber realm. He’s likely never going to be #1 but we kinda got lucky to use a #26 overall draft pick and get a top 10 QB.

There’s many that believe some of the most prolific leaders in the world led with their humility and it inspired those around them. Longer term leadership requires humility like Short term leadership requires overconfidence.
 
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Love is a very good QB. His style is understated. We saw CW on the sidelines Saturday night, down by three possessions, exhorting his teammates to do better, reminding them of what was at stake.

Most shots of Love on the bench show him sitting alone and unemotional. He doesn't look like he's involved in the game or with his teammates.

This is just personal style, and Love is not gonna become a cheerleader on the sidelines. Personally I prefer the aggressive style of CW, Rodgers, Favre, and others to "The Stoic". But I'll take Love's on field production any day. He's a v good QB. He's just not a natural leader.
Disagree with that last part, he just isn't the leader you prefer. I've been around some amazing leaders that are that stoic type - that unflappable leadership is something I'll follow to battle any time, I don't need the emotionally driven types that feel way too much and that pendulum can swing both ways.
 
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Disagree with that last part, he just isn't the leader you prefer. I've been around some amazing leaders that are that stoic type - that unflappable leadership is something I'll follow to battle any time, I don't need the emotionally driven types that feel way too much and that pendulum can swing both ways.
Yes. There’s the leader going into battle and then there’s the leader going into a bunker when the bullets are flying and you’re separated from your Company. Give me the quiet leader if it means he’ll risk taking a bullet for me and Vice Versa.
 

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But, what kind of a leader is bad under pressure? I hope he improves next year in that respect.

He’s bad under pressure; of 44 quarterbacks who were pressured on at least 50 dropbacks, Love finished 37th in completion percentage, 38th in yards per attempt and tied with Kyler Murray for last with zero touchdown passes.

 

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The Packers have problems that they need to solve in the coaching, playcalling and player areas. Jordan Love is not one of them.
Well said. The problems with coaching, playcalling, and personnel are the responsibility of MLF for the first two, Gluten for the latter.

Love does not have a large personality compared to - say Caleb Williams or Favre. Love is quiet by nature and if he leads, it's by example.

Personaly I think Jacobs is seen by his teammates as the leader of the offense. That's not a huge knock on Love. Whatever he lacks in leadership skills is made up by his excellent play.
 

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Disagree with that last part, he just isn't the leader you prefer. I've been around some amazing leaders that are that stoic type - that unflappable leadership is something I'll follow to battle any time, I don't need the emotionally driven types that feel way too much and that pendulum can swing both ways.
That's true. I prefer leaders who aren't afraid to speak up, directly and honestly. Football is loved, in part, because of the emotions it creates. A leader showing great emotion AND talent is going to take his team far.

And that's not a huge knock on Love. He's a talented QB who has improved each year, so to some extent, he leads by example.

He needs a very talented team around him. I don't think he's the kind of QB who is gonna carry an entire team in the 4Q, certainly not in a playoff game, with his lackadaisical manner - stats aside. Jacobs shows the leadership on offense, and Kraft is gonna join him.
 
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Well said. The problems with coaching, playcalling, and personnel are the responsibility of MLF for the first two, Gluten for the latter.

Love does not have a large personality compared to - say Caleb Williams or Favre. Love is quiet by nature and if he leads, it's by example.

Personaly I think Jacobs is seen by his teammates as the leader of the offense. That's not a huge knock on Love. Whatever he lacks in leadership skills is made up by his excellent play.
And to your point, a couple seasons ago Love stopped to help a motorist who was stuck in the snow in GB. The fan took his picture at the scene and posted it on Facebook. Love just smiled. Did not make a big to do or try to get press clipping.
 

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10 games into the 25/26 playoffs and IMO you could still make a strong case that Love has had the best single-game performance of any playoff QB thus far
 

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