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Was wondering what others opinions are of the current medical and training staff. Are they indeed the GOAT, if so why, if not what do they need to accomplish to get there???
Is the current training and medical staff GOAT?
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So Mike you finally gotten around to asking the fans opinion on the training and conditioning staff? About time.
My answer is they could be better.
My answer is they could be better.
RepStar15
"We're going to relentlessly chase perfection."
Absolutely not. Two years in a row with the #1/#2 MOST injuries. The entire medical staff should be ashamed. As an athletic trainer and injury prevention specialist this is a problem. The numbers do not lie:
2016
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/223136/ranking-nfl-teams-most-affected-by-injuries
http://es.pn/2fZWK7d
2015
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x151021/ranking-most-banged-nfl-teams-1-32
http://es.pn/1ZWgat4
2016
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/223136/ranking-nfl-teams-most-affected-by-injuries
http://es.pn/2fZWK7d
2015
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x151021/ranking-most-banged-nfl-teams-1-32
http://es.pn/1ZWgat4
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You took the numbers from a subjective list of a single reporter. According to an objective metric used by Football Outsiders the Packers suffered the 18th most injuries last season as well as the 24th in 2015.
Based on the title of this link, I'd say they are ranking the team with the most single guys combined with most "free-spirited" groupies.
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I haven't laughed out loud (for real - not the LOL thingie) at an internet response in a long, long time. Good Stuff. Thanks.
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Personally I have a hard time putting this group in the GOAT conversation, I know this may come as a shock to some but it takes a lot to surpass the 1987 Washington Redskins staff.
RepStar15
"We're going to relentlessly chase perfection."
Groin, hamstring, hamstring, groin, hamstring....every year. Lack of effective strength, conditioning and stretching program. Maybe this training staff is good at treating injuries, but they are among the worst in the NFL at the more important prevention side of things. These injuries should not occur in the capacity in which they do in Green Bay. No excuses.
They happen on every team, I would say it has much less to do with the staff and much more to do with the current cba which allows the players to sit on their *** and to be conditioned when the football season starts.
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Was a physical game last night, but have to wonder what's going on, some injuries (Nelson comes to mind) appeared to occur without contact. Just hard to believe 10 minutes in and already a handful of guys are grabbing their quads, hammies, and groins, sure raises questions about proper stretching and conditioning.
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Though your tears, did you guys all count how many Falcons players left the game as well.
Throughout the preseason and Week 1, I was impressed with how few injuries the Packers had compared to the rest of the league. They've been dropping like flies. Did any of you see the list of skill players that the Patriots are missing? It's A LOT longer than the Packers.
Throughout the preseason and Week 1, I was impressed with how few injuries the Packers had compared to the rest of the league. They've been dropping like flies. Did any of you see the list of skill players that the Patriots are missing? It's A LOT longer than the Packers.
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I'm sure I'll miss some, but yeah. Patriots are without Edelman for the season, Amendola is out, Gronk went down, who knows for how long, and their best defensive player Hightower was out for them as well.
RepStar15
"We're going to relentlessly chase perfection."
Edelman = torn ACL ; amendola = concussion; gronk = he said groin but most likely back that came after a hard fall; Hightower = likely torn minecus; these were all injuries that occurred by forceful impact tensile or direct contact. Muscle strains are injuries that occur by poor conditioning. Unless you see a torn groin, hamstring or quadricep these strains should not be occurring this frequently.
El Guapo
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Edelman, Malcolm Mitchell, Hightower, Amendola, Rowe, Hogan, Burkhead, and Gronkowski all with injury concerns attached to them after only two weeks of the season
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The Patriots staff is definitely out of the GOAT conversation
PackerFanLV
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Let's not compare mm and belichick lol
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Hard to fathom the idea that our training staff is considered by many to be the bright spot of the 2017 Green Bay Packers.
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The current CBA is designed to minimize injuries by reducing practices - especially those with pads - by a huge amount. Unfortunately no practice restrictions can prevent torn ligaments, muscle pulls, etc. without team strength and conditioning coaches and trainers also doing their jobs properly. So the first week of OTAs is strictly workouts with the trainers, no coach interactions allowed, unlike before 2011 when it went from nothing to helmets.
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Is it time to start a fire Lovat thread? How this dude stays on is a real head scratcher.
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Literally none of us know whether they're good or not because we don't know specifically what they are doing.
You can't say they're good bc no injuries or vice versa. Sometimes injuries happen to the best trained athletes...doesn't mean the trainer/coach did something wrong. It just happens.
But yeah, none of us know one way or another. Unless if you're a Physical Therapist or licensed strength coach and you've been in on the GB meetings and see what they're doing, which I doubt any of you are or have been doing, then ya don't know.
You can't say they're good bc no injuries or vice versa. Sometimes injuries happen to the best trained athletes...doesn't mean the trainer/coach did something wrong. It just happens.
But yeah, none of us know one way or another. Unless if you're a Physical Therapist or licensed strength coach and you've been in on the GB meetings and see what they're doing, which I doubt any of you are or have been doing, then ya don't know.
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My mind is officially blown
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He's worthless.
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Lots of foot and ankle problems. Knees too. Throw in some broken ribs, concussions and a notorious collar bone fracture. What strength and conditioning can you do to prevent these issues?
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Bears just fired their S & C coach and they aren't the first team to do it in the NFL. I personally don't know enough about it to form a real good opinion, but if teams are firing and hiring, they must think improvements can be made. If that is the case for the Packers, bring in a better one. If it's just bad luck or the Packers S & C is viewed as one of the best in the game, no changes needed. Frequent poster, KyraReppe5, who appears to have quite a bit of knowledge in this area, continually states that the Packers S & C staff is not very good at preventive measures. One posters opinion, but probably better than one I could form.
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