Bruce-Right now Craig Nall is Brett's Backup. It is his job to lose. Craig knows the Packer complicated offense, he has been in it for 3 years. Aaron Rodgers needs a lot of study and work before he would be ready to take Nall's place. Aaron Rodgers said after seeing the Packer's very thick playbook, said he didn't know very much. He knows he has much to learn. That is why Green Bay is a great place for Arron Rodgers to be. The Packers do not have to push him out into the field before he is ready. He can learn, he is smart but still it will take time before he is ready to be a back up in the N.F.L. let alone be a starter. The Packers have Farve who must likely we be here for the next two seasons and Nall will back him up. Greg C- your posting is correct. There is no problem not having Brett Favre out on the field participating in the mini camp workouts, they are for the Rookies and new free agents mostly for players trying to make a impression, in order to make the roster. The Packer's monitor how many times Farve throws the Football during the preseason camps. He will get that number of throws needed in training camp. They are very protective of Brett's arm now that he is getting up in years. He is the franchise Q.B. right now until his replacement is groomed. Most of the big fuss about Brett not being at the minicamp (it is voluntary & is the head coach's decision) is caused by the Media They want to make a story out of nothing ,as they do about Brett's retirement. And then there are some of these posters on Packer forums who seem to think this Packer team is not very good, are also complaining, they complain about everything anyway. I have been out to June mini Camp for both sessions, and everybody seems to be enthusiastic and working very hard. This new '05 Packer team will be just fine.. This Packer organization knows what they are doing, yet every move the Packers have made is put under a microscope never in positive spin and always a negative spin by some of Posters on many Packer Forums. With all the problems the Packers had last year , a 1-4 start, injuries to key players late in the season game still won the NFC-North Division for the third time in a row and finished with a 10-6 record. And the franchise still has not had a losing season in the last 12 years (1991 was the last losing season) and Packers has a best NFL record of 127-65 since 1993. Isn't that perferable to what has happened to the once Fomidable 49ers franchise during the same period of time, 2-14 last year??