Brian Gutenkunst FA and Draft Grades

[OldSchool101]

Damn, you're a REALLY tough grader... glad I never had you as a teacher.
Myers was a 4 yr above average starting OC currently starting for the Jets on a $5.5mil/yr deal. C Grade? At least B-, closer to B.
Jenkins was a 7 yr starter wherever needed on the OL, who signed a 2nd contract averaging $24mil/yr. B Grade? A to A-, imho.

Keep in mind I’m not using what I call NFL draft grades you’ll see handed out post draft. They are grading using a B+ is average scale where everybody Wins except maybe 1 team gets a C+ or whatever.

I’m grading on a C scale if that helps.

As an example o Lukas Van Ness, but for a #13 overall he’s not over what’s expectation etc. He’s not terrible, he’s also not playing like he’s Top 10 selection.

Myers was a RD2 selection and out of a big time program at Ohio State. Myers grades slightly below average as a Center. Being a Starter? You’d better be a starter in RD2 at Center that’s minimum requirement stuff.

Jenkins started strong. He basically had a couple 2 seasons where he graded out B+ to A-, but never held or regained that form. 2024 was a really C+ year for him and 2025 was C/C+ at best imo. I’m averaging those out.

Ok maybe just cause B/B+ because he was not RD1 and certainly these are approximate. Yet even a good player like Elgton slipped after around his contract year. He had a pair of Probowl seasons, but since did not regain his rookie contract form.

“A” to me is reserved for the best. Bak, Tom, Linsley or consistent dominant play.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm thinking what is important is this year and next. The past I don't care about. If Gute does great this year and next; we will be great. I think he needs to do better but that's just my opinion.

 

[OldSchool101]

I'm thinking what is important is this year and next. The past I don't care about. If Gute does great this year and next; we will be great. I think he needs to do better but that's just my opinion.

I similarly think we need to stick a draft like we did in 2023. That said, what will “aid” that cause are 4 potential additions from recent drafts. if we get just 2 or 3 of that group back healthy? It’s like having 9-10 draft picks this season. With some of those guys having multiple offseason programs and being more comfortable than a Rookie.

* Marshawn Lloyd, John Williams, Colin Oliver, Travis Glover have all shown signs of “popping” but have succumbed to lengthy injuries. That’s a RD3,RD5,RD6,RD7 all going into year 2 or 3. That’s a bunch of guys that totally fell off radar that we don’t normally see happen.

 

[OldSchool101]

The other part of grading Brian is just We tend to slow roll players into the lineup maybe a little more than average. That’s fine it’s not a complaint because at QB it obviously works. Yet from a draft grade perspective it’s hard to evaluate those players after a Rookie season or even after a couple seasons where they miss significant playing time.

Morgan (934 snaps 2yrs) and Lukas Van Ness (1,056 snaps 3yrs) are a pair of Day 1 selections that have a fraction of full time starting playing time for RD1 selections. I’m not blaming them for injury or usage as much as just stating a fact. Makes it tough to grade properly. 465 snaps per year or 352 snaps per year is tought to evaluate. Especially when it takes several games to work back from an injury. Those are very important draft expenditures and hopefully we get a better look at them and it raises their draft grades.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The one thing I will be critical on is RD3. Kraft (A) is really the only great selection. Sean Rhyan (C+) is about average for a RD3. Savion too early

Hopper D+
Lloyd F
Amari D
Deguara C-
Sternberger D+
Burks D+
all underperformed to draft capital imo

That RD3 imo is our worst overall probably graded a true D+ and only because of Kraft pulled it up off the floor.

How is Deguara a C- ? He did next to nothing. I agree round three has been full of duds but I think Ryhan is better than a C +. He's been an adequate starter at RG. Amari was a complete bust. I'd give him a D- only because he actually played in a few games.

 

[OldSchool101]

How is Deguara a C- ? He did next to nothing. I agree round three has been full of duds but I think Ryhan is better than a C +. He's been an adequate starter at RG. Amari was a complete bust. I'd give him a D- only because he actually played in a few games.

Glad you asked because I’ve been bored!
Josiah was back of RD3 at #93 overall. He did play sparingly with Tonyan and Mercedes also, but playing 15+ games in years 2,3,4. He contributed very regularly on Teams and was primarily used in a Move Blocker Role with minimal Receiving role. He did fine with what he was dealt in Receptions though, but he’s a H back, not a prototype Flex Receiving threat. Maybe could’ve expected a little better production in years 3 or 4 to get him off a 62/100 score (70 average)
81% comp
9.32 per catch
2 TD.
Good blocker
Reliable contributor on Teams
Slight underperform for Top 100

Sean Rhyan got off slow. Many posters in here wondered what happened to him across 2022,2023 seasons. He really lost most of 2 seasons if you recall? He then took over at RG and had 1 good B grade year (aside from 4 False starts and 2 holding) Then was transitioned to Center and was a solid B grade at Run Block, but ranked bottom of the NFL in pass blocking.
27pressures, (37th/40)
8 QB hits (39th/40)
1 Sack and (16th/40)
5 penalties (26th/40) earned Sean a 38.5% Pass Block grade ranking dead last in 2025 (40/40). Nor hold on folks! Do I anticipate he’ll get worse? No. I think he’ll improve and 1/2 season at Center is a tough load haul. So 0% contribution for 50% of his contract and another year grading out in the bottom 1/3 of the league won’t get you well above average. 1 good B grade 2024 season (not great) of 4 seasons doesn’t deserve a B grade. Looking closer I’m lowering my grade from C+ to C grade (emerging)

You’re right on Amari Rodgers. He didn’t even make it through his Sophomore campaign. Looking at mid RD3 expense #85? that’s historically bad. Out of the league in 3yrs. So far other than Lloyd (who gets a temp pass for injury) I can’t think of a guy who played but scores lower in RD3? Only player I can think of that compares is maybe J’mon dropsy Moore? but at least he was selected 50 spots later RD4. I’m revising Amari Rodgers to F+

 

[tynimiller]

I struggle in any grading scale to not treat Evan Williams an A or better. I question everything about that if someone expects more than a player of his level out of the fourth....Romeo Doubs too for that matter.

I'm going to go ponder life in the corner because this has drawn me into doubting everything that I assumed fair and reasonable.


(Partly joking for fun...but seriously....)

 

[OldSchool101]

I struggle in any grading scale to not treat Evan Williams an A or better. I question everything about that if someone expects more than a player of his level out of the fourth....Romeo Doubs too for that matter.

I'm going to go ponder life in the corner because this has drawn me into doubting everything that I assumed fair and reasonable.


(Partly joking for fun...but seriously....)

lol ok! That’s your opinion I respect that but imo feel bad you’ve got to crawl up in a corner I think it’s a little excessive bordering on martyrdom but to each his own.

so for you (not me) Evan Williams

11 yards per reception allowed = A
13 Missed Tackles = A

For me a selection costing a 4th/5th Rounders Package should be a Starter by Year 2 or 3 latest. I’ll give Evan props, he did a good job there winning his position battle as a pleasant surprise.
He’s absolutely, positively nowhere in top 10 consideration as an All around Safety. There are roughly 100 Safeties and to break 90% you MUST be top 10 imo. At least an argument at Top 11-12 etc. I’d put Evan Williams in the Top 25-30 of 100 Safties playing today.
So if 40th%—60th% = C grade? He’s well into that B range.

An A grade on a C scale being an average starting Safety only tells me your perception is flawed.

 

[Magooch]

Regarding our "slow integration" of some draft picks, I'm just throwing this out there as food for thought but could it also be the case that some of these players may be getting worked in slowly...but also aren't exactly "imposing themselves" either? We can say that we like to work in rookies slowly to get them up to speed...but at the same time if we draft LVN and he hits the ground running looking like Aidan Hutchinson, you can bet that he would get worked in MUCH more quickly and nobody would be saying "we need to give him more time, work him in slowly, let him learn the system and the pace of the pros" or any of that. If Golden comes in here and is looking like Stefon Diggs, we are probably finding him a way to get him more reps/targets.

Of course these are exaggerated examples, and it's not even to disparage those guys, but I guess my point is that I think sometimes "Green Bay likes to work in rookies slowly" can end up (intentionally or not) being a bit of a shield to deflect criticisms from younger draft picks that may just not be that impressive of a player. Certainly not in every case, but I think it IS the case sometimes. It seems like we like to point to the extremely-rare examples of guys like Rodgers and Love and try to apply that logic to just about every high draft pick - work them in nice and slow, let them take a few years to learn the game, the system, and then they will be ready to step in and produce once given the opportunities.

Maybe that works out some of the time, but a lot of the time that "slow ramp up" seems to never actually lead to much of anywhere. Then we look at underwhelming draft picks who haven't panned out as hoped or made good on their potential and just spend 3 years saying how we like to be extra patient with young players...

I guess what I'm getting at, the long and short of it....is that it's easy enough to say "we like to be patient with our rookies and work them in slowly" when we aren't exactly drafting rookies who are "forcing our hands" either. That kind of philosophy is rarely getting tested. It's one thing to be slow and patient with a player who obviously DOES seem to need time to get acclimated. It's another thing to try and maintain that "slow integration" philosophy when you draft a player who is ready to make an immediate impact and their play demands more minutes/snaps/etc.

But, like I said, just food for thought. I don't disagree in principle, I think we just kind of tend to wear out that theory a bit here and there

 

[tynimiller]

lol ok! That’s your opinion I respect that but imo feel bad you’ve got to crawl up in a corner I think it’s a little excessive bordering on martyrdom but to each his own.

so for you (not me) Evan Williams

11 yards per reception allowed = A
13 Missed Tackles = A

For me a selection costing a 4th/5th Rounders Package should be a Starter by Year 2 or 3 latest. I’ll give Evan props, he did a good job there winning his position battle as a pleasant surprise.
He’s absolutely, positively nowhere in top 10 consideration as an All around Safety. There are roughly 100 Safeties and to break 90% you MUST be top 10 imo. At least an argument at Top 11-12 etc. I’d put Evan Williams in the Top 25-30 of 100 Safties playing today.
So if 40th%—60th% = C grade? He’s well into that B range.

An A grade on a C scale being an average starting Safety only tells me your perception is flawed.

If your purely grading the player I’m not opposed, but your including their round selection so are you grading the pick or the player? Massively different things.

Evan would be a B or so graded player but his fourth round pick to what we got easily an A. You win a TON of games if all of your fourth rounders are guys like him or Doubs.

 

[Capitol 8805]

Would Gutey be interested in Dexter Lawrence?

NY Giants news: Dexter Lawrence requests trade, per report

Lawrence won’t report for offeason program.

www.bigblueview.com

 

[milani]

Regarding our "slow integration" of some draft picks, I'm just throwing this out there as food for thought but could it also be the case that some of these players may be getting worked in slowly...but also aren't exactly "imposing themselves" either? We can say that we like to work in rookies slowly to get them up to speed...but at the same time if we draft LVN and he hits the ground running looking like Aidan Hutchinson, you can bet that he would get worked in MUCH more quickly and nobody would be saying "we need to give him more time, work him in slowly, let him learn the system and the pace of the pros" or any of that. If Golden comes in here and is looking like Stefon Diggs, we are probably finding him a way to get him more reps/targets.

Of course these are exaggerated examples, and it's not even to disparage those guys, but I guess my point is that I think sometimes "Green Bay likes to work in rookies slowly" can end up (intentionally or not) being a bit of a shield to deflect criticisms from younger draft picks that may just not be that impressive of a player. Certainly not in every case, but I think it IS the case sometimes. It seems like we like to point to the extremely-rare examples of guys like Rodgers and Love and try to apply that logic to just about every high draft pick - work them in nice and slow, let them take a few years to learn the game, the system, and then they will be ready to step in and produce once given the opportunities.

Maybe that works out some of the time, but a lot of the time that "slow ramp up" seems to never actually lead to much of anywhere. Then we look at underwhelming draft picks who haven't panned out as hoped or made good on their potential and just spend 3 years saying how we like to be extra patient with young players...

I guess what I'm getting at, the long and short of it....is that it's easy enough to say "we like to be patient with our rookies and work them in slowly" when we aren't exactly drafting rookies who are "forcing our hands" either. That kind of philosophy is rarely getting tested. It's one thing to be slow and patient with a player who obviously DOES seem to need time to get acclimated. It's another thing to try and maintain that "slow integration" philosophy when you draft a player who is ready to make an immediate impact and their play demands more minutes/snaps/etc.

But, like I said, just food for thought. I don't disagree in principle, I think we just kind of tend to wear out that theory a bit here and there

Sometimes a team drafts a player or two to actually start from the get go. Brian Bulaga was one such player. And drafting Nick Barnett for MLB in 2003 was an absolute necessity because he was replacing a dinosaur in Hardy Nickerson who was already fossilized. Others have to develop. Darren Sharper was one.

 

[Pkrjones]

Would Gutey be interested in Dexter Lawrence?

NY Giants news: Dexter Lawrence requests trade, per report

Lawrence won’t report for offeason program.

www.bigblueview.com

Imho, not at the $27-$30mil/yr that he's looking for. Guessing NYG undoubtedly would want multiple high picks, also. Way too pricey.

 

[tynimiller]

Would Gutey be interested in Dexter Lawrence?

NY Giants news: Dexter Lawrence requests trade, per report

Lawrence won’t report for offeason program.

www.bigblueview.com

Only if he is a fool...or somehow can convince them to trade him for a 7th rounder....Dexter to play under current contract and not cost us a ton merely to chase a ring for 2026 and then part ways with us.

 

[OldSchool101]

If your purely grading the player I’m not opposed, but your including their round selection so are you grading the pick or the player? Massively different things.

Evan would be a B or so graded player but his fourth round pick to what we got easily an A. You win a TON of games if all of your fourth rounders are guys like him or Doubs.

I gave you a like because he’s as “good” player at #111. Answer is yes. If Evsj was a #52 selection I’d say he’s pretty C grade AT THAT EXPENSE “. Meaning if he’s a RD3 he’s probably a little better C+ B- over the norm.

I could maybe see bending and giving Evan a “A” grade, but only if he was RD7 or UDFA type thing. We spent 2 valuable draft picks 5th/4th Rounds here. It’s the old adage “of him who’s given much, much is expected”.

I’m not suggesting he’s bad. He’s just not an A grade at that expenditure. I’d give him maybe 83/100 points, which is a solid, above average starter. Had he cracked the Probowl, PFF graded 80+ or pro reference graded a value of 7 or 8? That’s leaning more A grade are my thoughts.

Evan is in that Amos territory. Solid but unspectacular. He’s not done though.

Now Xavier at #36 overall was that
A graded pick even RD2. All Pro 1 + All Pro 2, but of course that was not Brian. Gute gets an A for bringing Xavier in FA though that’s his job also. and can’t do too much better.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I struggle in any grading scale to not treat Evan Williams an A or better. I question everything about that if someone expects more than a player of his level out of the fourth....Romeo Doubs too for that matter.

I'm going to go ponder life in the corner because this has drawn me into doubting everything that I assumed fair and reasonable.


(Partly joking for fun...but seriously....)

What do expect from a round 4 pick? A good depth player like Enagbare would be a good pick. Getting a top grade starter like Tom or Williams is an absolute home run at pick 4. Those top starters should usually be picked in rounds 1-3.

There are always exceptions where lower picks become great players but that's not the typical scenario.Getting a really good starter in the lower rounds is not typical and that's why those home run picks are so exceptional.

 

[tynimiller]

I gave you a like because he’s as “good” player at #111. Answer is yes. If Evsj was a #52 selection I’d say he’s pretty C grade AT THAT EXPENSE “. Meaning if he’s a RD3 he’s probably a little better C+ B- over the norm.

I’d give Evan a A only if he was RD7 or UDFA type thing. We spent 2 valuable draft picks 5th/4th Rounds here.

Just for reference sake since some are probably trying to think through Evan

PFF of safeties with 750 snaps or more last year:

Out of just safeties w/750 snaps

Evan Williams (only year two)
21st Overall Grade
4th Run Defense Grade
27th Tackling Grade
37th in Pass Rush
29th in Coverage

Now that is out of only 58 total safeties that even saw that much playing time.

Jalen Pitre a young phenom safety in the same categories - NOW remember those reading Pitre is a coverage slot type safety aligned in slot coverage 559 times last year and only 51 FS alignment (Evan played only 135 in slot and 510 in FS alignment)
2nd Overall Grade
11th Run Defense
43rd Tackling Grade
32nd in Pass Rush
3rd in coverage

A more similar guy to Evan that is considered or was last year one of the best safeties is Bryan Cook (primarily lines up in FS)
3rd Overall Grade
9th Run Defense
4th Tackling Grade
47th in Pass Rush
2nd in coverage

 

[tynimiller]

What do expect from a round 4 pick? A good depth player like Enagbare would be a good pick. Getting a top grade starter like Tom or Williams is an absolute home run at pick 4. Those top starters should usually be picked in rounds 1-3.

There are always exceptions where lower picks become great players but that's not the typical scenario.Getting a really good starter in the lower rounds is not typical and that's why those home run picks are so exceptional.

You and I are on same page...you get an Evan Williams level starter from a fourth that's a homerun...and arguably at least a two run shot or more.

 

[OldSchool101]

Regarding our "slow integration" of some draft picks, I'm just throwing this out there as food for thought but could it also be the case that some of these players may be getting worked in slowly...but also aren't exactly "imposing themselves" either? We can say that we like to work in rookies slowly to get them up to speed...but at the same time if we draft LVN and he hits the ground running looking like Aidan Hutchinson, you can bet that he would get worked in MUCH more quickly and nobody would be saying "we need to give him more time, work him in slowly, let him learn the system and the pace of the pros" or any of that. If Golden comes in here and is looking like Stefon Diggs, we are probably finding him a way to get him more reps/targets.

Of course these are exaggerated examples, and it's not even to disparage those guys, but I guess my point is that I think sometimes "Green Bay likes to work in rookies slowly" can end up (intentionally or not) being a bit of a shield to deflect criticisms from younger draft picks that may just not be that impressive of a player. Certainly not in every case, but I think it IS the case sometimes. It seems like we like to point to the extremely-rare examples of guys like Rodgers and Love and try to apply that logic to just about every high draft pick - work them in nice and slow, let them take a few years to learn the game, the system, and then they will be ready to step in and produce once given the opportunities.

Maybe that works out some of the time, but a lot of the time that "slow ramp up" seems to never actually lead to much of anywhere. Then we look at underwhelming draft picks who haven't panned out as hoped or made good on their potential and just spend 3 years saying how we like to be extra patient with young players...

I guess what I'm getting at, the long and short of it....is that it's easy enough to say "we like to be patient with our rookies and work them in slowly" when we aren't exactly drafting rookies who are "forcing our hands" either. That kind of philosophy is rarely getting tested. It's one thing to be slow and patient with a player who obviously DOES seem to need time to get acclimated. It's another thing to try and maintain that "slow integration" philosophy when you draft a player who is ready to make an immediate impact and their play demands more minutes/snaps/etc.

But, like I said, just food for thought. I don't disagree in principle, I think we just kind of tend to wear out that theory a bit here and there

Possibly so. Yet slow rolling Rookies is pretty prevalent at various positions like QB and Edge.
with Lukas specifically though we brought on a player with good upside and obvious talent. Yet he was absolutely leaning Raw. His usage and just overall snap counts in college were well below what we’re seeing today with 5th year Seniors etc. So maybe a little more caution with him in particular. Then Lukas didn’t exactly benefit from multiple scheme changes and most of last year injured.

Lukas has played 1056 snaps over 3 seasons. Thats basically a full season worth of snaps divided up 3 ways.

In addition, when you draft a particular player because of high ceiling, you often overlap them in position with concrete starters. Not to say Van Ness couldn’t beat out Preston Smith and Rashan Gary in his Rookie season, but I think that’s asking too much just because he was already viewed as a high end project.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I think Gute is much better in rounds 4-7 because he changes his draft philosophy. In those rounds, its closer to BPA. I think he goes fishing too often in round 1 basing his pick on players that are often labeled as projects because they are great athletes but had unimpressive production.

Round 2 has some disappointments but is still impressive. Round 3 is a head scratcher. I thought Deguara was a sixth round talent and he ended up playing like a free agent. Kraft and Ryhan were good picks. Perhaps Gute reaches in round 1 and then compensates in round 2 with something closer to BPA at a position of need.

As I've mentioned before, the lower rounds have been excellent and have saved his job because he's failed too often to land difference makers in round 1. Overall, Gute is still a better than average GM at drafting talent.

That's an interesting point, that in later rounds, 4 through 7, Gluten is aiming for BPA, rather than biggest need.

To me it's been obvious that Gluten, and TT before him, have prioritized need over BPA in round 1. That should still work most of the time, but for some reason it hasn't in GB (although TT and Gluten made franchise-history level picks in round 1 with Rodgers (TT) and Love (Gluten). I'll take that anyday and just dismiss the misfires in round 1.

Round 3 just has some strange curse on it. I don't get it. And for as disappointing as round 3 has been, round 4 has gone in the other direction. Weird, not surprising.

And if it's true for one GM, it's probably true for others. And outside the first 1 to 3 picks in the draft, t's difficult to match BPA with need. The heat is off on day 3 and a GM can indulge and take BPAs in rounds 4 through 7.

Good catch Sanguine.

 

[DoURant]

Pretty impressive, only one team since 2010 who hasn't had a Top 10 Draft pick....... Our...Green...Bay...Packers!

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[tynimiller]

Pretty impressive, only one team since 2010 who hasn't had a Top 10 Draft pick....... Our...Green...Bay...Packers!

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Crazy approach to purposefully trying to lose games and not build a team that is pursuing a Super Bowl....which I'm told by many is how we are managed.... (insert eyeroll)

 

[OldSchool101]

You and I are on same page...you get an Evan Williams level starter from a fourth that's a homerun...and arguably at least a two run shot or more.

I think a big part of this variance of opinion might be the grade scale we use? Here’s a generic “C” scale expectation wise. Feel free to disagree that’s fine but this is why Evan is not = to some below. Not everyone gets a Gold medal.

RD1 Great 3++ year starter
RD2 Good 3++ year Starter
RD3 Average 3++ yr Starter
RD4 Potential 3++ year Starter
RD5 Great ST or heavy rotational
RD6 Good ST or rotational piece
RD7 hopeful ST or developing project rotational work across Rook contract

These are all historically recent RD4 area draft selection who I believe surpassed their C grade expectation. That doesn’t mean I dole out automatic A grades across the board though either


These are all similar area drafted players. Notice I didn’t go lopsided and pick Rasheed in RD7 or Bakhtiari in RD6. Those are easy A to A+ to draft area expectation imo.

I do NOT believe Evan Williams would be drafted ahead of TJ Lang or Josh Sitton or Zach Tom. I don’t even believe it would be a consideration of picking Evan if THOSE 3 prospects were on the board when Brian was on the clock.


#109 TJ Lang A
#111 Evan Williams B
#116 Colby Wooden C+/B-
#122 JC Tretter B-
#132 Mike Daniels B/B+
#132 Romeo Doubs B
#134 Jamaal Williams B
#135 Josh Sitton A
#137 Dean Lowry B-
#140 Zach Tom A

*PS. feel free to grade these drafted players as an exercise my feelings won’t be hurt! lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Would Gutey be interested in Dexter Lawrence?

1000% pass on Lawrence. It would take way too much draft capital, which we don't have. Not to mention and probably even worse, he wants a new contract. Lawrence signed a 4 years extension with the Giants in 2023. It was a deal that paid him $60M upfront (guaranteed) and an average base salary of $21.875M/year. Sounds like Lawrence wants new guarateed money and a much heftier per year deal. Someone needs to remind Lawrence that he just wasn't that good last season. Lawrence had a half-sack, 31 total tackles, one interception, and four passes defended.

I would be more interested in Cam Jordan. Yeah, he is 36 years old, but he is still going strong and he would come a heck of a lot cheaper and since he is a free agent, no costs of a trade.

 

[tynimiller]

I think a big part of this variance of opinion might be the grade scale we use? Here’s a generic “C” scale expectation wise. Feel free to disagree that’s fine but this is why Evan is not = to some below. Not everyone gets a Gold medal.

RD1 Great 3++ year starter
RD2 Good 3++ year Starter
RD3 Average 3++ yr Starter
RD4 Potential 3++ year Starter
RD5 Great ST or heavy rotational
RD6 Good ST or rotational piece
RD7 hopeful ST or developing project rotational work across Rook contract

These are all historically recent RD4 area draft selection who I believe surpassed their C grade expectation. That doesn’t mean I dole out automatic A grades across the board though either


These are all similar area drafted players. Notice I didn’t go lopsided and pick Rasheed in RD7 or Bakhtiari in RD6. Those are easy A to A+ to draft area expectation imo.

I do NOT believe Evan Williams would be drafted ahead of TJ Lang or Josh Sitton or Zach Tom. I don’t even believe it would be a consideration of picking Evan if THOSE 3 prospects were on the board when Brian was on the clock.


#109 TJ Lang A
#111 Evan Williams B
#116 Colby Wooden C+/B-
#122 JC Tretter B-
#132 Mike Daniels B/B+
#132 Romeo Doubs B
#134 Jamaal Williams B
#135 Josh Sitton A
#137 Dean Lowry B-
#140 Zach Tom A

*PS. feel free to grade these drafted players as an exercise my feelings won’t be hurt! lol

To believe that Jamaal Williams (love that guy) met/exceeded expectations to the same degree as Evan Williams for a fourth rounder I just don't get or agree with. But again, I think we are on the same page as we simply are "grading" a different thing is all.