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BRETT IS GETTING UPSET

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Zero2Cool, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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  2. nathaniel

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    Can't blame him. He has a right to be pissed.
     
  3. axelred13

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    Ok...I concede the Moss thing. <foot in mouth>

    I still think TT isn't doing enough for now, but this isn't the place to discuss that.

    Thanks for posting that. It does calm me down a little more.
     
  4. tromadz

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    lol, now that brett sees this is mostly on Moss, the favre-firsters will agree now.
     
  5. bozz_2006

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    i'm gonna have to do my best to work that cheese-chute metaphor into a few conversations this week... thanks PFT!!!
     
  6. MassPackersFan

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    It's PFT... probably just secretly enjoying the moment as much as they can.
     
  7. hoos

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    I'm sick of the excuses, this is still on TT. He failed to get Moss here, period.
     
  8. IronMan

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    Are these the same sources that said Mike Sherman was hired as the new Cardinals head coach? If so, I say they need some better sources.
     
  9. wils0646

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    Oh come on. Sorry for the language, but that's blind hatred. You're making up excuses to hate him. It's in print here too:
    http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10156954

    It makes me sick.

    I bet you wanted him to get rid of the whole 2007 draft to get him right?
     
  10. hoos

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    That's not blind hatred. Everytime someone signs somewhere else there are excuses for why he signed somewhere else. You have to hold the man accountable at some point. If the team loses 12 games who is to blame? Do we not blame the coach as well as the players? Then why can't we blame the GM when he doesn't sign players?

    I have been patient with TT in the offseason because I thought that the Moss deal was in the works. However, it gets old watching our team get passed on by player after player. At some point the GM has to do his job and sell these players on GB and actively recruit to get them here. TT doesn't seem to be able to do that, and that's my biggest problem with him. Thank God he's not in sales for a living, he'd be broke.

    You can call it blind hatred, or maybe you can call it what it is, recognition of an inability to bring players in when there are other teams that are interested. A quality GM can do that as well as draft.
     
  11. Packnic

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    this sounds embelished to me
     
  12. wils0646

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    It's fine if you criticize his moves, but blaming TT for this situation seems more like blind hatred than anything.

    I wanted Moss as much as the next guy, but Moss didn't want to come here, plain and simple. Brett probably contacted him too about it. Restructuring his contract was a MUST. He was not worth what he was being paid.

    Well NFL network guru Adam Schefter said the same thing:

    "Moss already has agreed to dramatically restructure his contract, which is scheduled to pay him $9.75 million this coming season. New England was the one and only place Moss would agree to take a reduced contract, and he did so knowing that he would have the chance to win a Super Bowl. With the offseason that New England has had, no team in football has a better chance."
     
  13. hoos

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    I don't know how much clearer I can be, there is no blind hatred. He is our GM so I want things to work out. However, at the end of the day, I can look at the roster and say that so far in FA, we have done next to nothing to improve this team and that has to fall on TT. Yes there are still June 1st cuts coming up, but in general teams have gotten better at keeping their quality guys and working the cap and it isn't the bounty of help that it used to be.

    We may get a few guys that can still help the roster, but why put all our eggs in one basket. There are still teams that have cap space, what if the quality June 1st cuts decide to go somewhere else because they didn't want to play for the Packers? How many excuses do we have to make until we accept that TT didn't get the job done? Does it take 10 players deciding to sign somewhere else? How about 15?

    In my mind Ted still has this year to turn things around and prove his doubters wrong. If we improve to 9 or 10 wins and make the playoffs, I will sing his praises. However, if we revert to say 4-7 wins, then I think it may be time to look at someone else. I'm a bottom line person, I don't want excuses.
     
  14. wils0646

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    Ok. I don't think I was clear enough. You can blame TT for whatever happened this offseason...but not the Moss situation. That's what I'm trying to say. You seem to be just adding it to the pile because you want to. All you just posted is legit and fine. I was only commenting on your "oh well, I will still blame TT for the Moss fiasco" remark even thought you shouldn't.
     
  15. hoos

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    I see your point that you feel it was out of TT's hands, but I still don't buy into it. I have to believe it can't be that hard to sell Randy on playing with Brett to reduce his cap number to 6M. We didn't need it "drastically reduced" since we have all this cap space. The point is that TT simply can't sell playing in GB to vet players or he simply isn't trying. I don't like either scenario.
     
  16. wils0646

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    I don't think it was ever easy or it will ever BE easy to get FA to play for the Packers. Location is our enemy.

    BTW, Moss' salary for the Pats is only $3 million (upwards of $5 if he reaches some incentive values). Bottom line, every single GM would only take Moss if he restructured his deal...TT couldn't get that from Moss.

    I would have loved Moss, but I know now that it wasn't feasible.

    Edit: Also, if you didn't know...Moss' cap hit would have been about $10 million this year. I don't think we could have signed all of our rookies if we would have taken him without restructuring.
     
  17. cheesey

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    Haven't any of you ever had someone pull that same kind of crap on you? I have! They act like they want to go somewhere with you, when all of the sudden something they see as better comes along, and you end up getting dumped.
    I'm glad it happened NOW, and not AFTER he got here. It shows that the "Moss haters" were right after all, he IS a dork.
     
  18. all about da packers

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    So being miffed all of a sudden becomes getting upset? I fail to see the connection between the two emotions...

    But don't worry, I'm sure PFT has never been wrong before... :roll:
     
  19. all about da packers

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    Well if this is about looks, then I'm sorry but Favre has nothing on Brady.

    You gotta admit, Brady has the looks that can make gay women turn straight.
     
  20. cheesey

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    What.......is Rosie O'Donnel making a play for him now???
    If so.....it might turn Brady GAY!!! :rotflmao:
     
  21. all about da packers

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    [​IMG]

    I think it'd turn any man gay.
     
  22. cheesey

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    Hey! Look what it did to K.D. Lang!!!!
    Oh wait......not a dude....sorry!
    (We were watching the TV LAND awards last week, and my wife saw K.D. Lang and said, "Man, is that guy funny looking!" Then i told he that "guy" wasn't a guy!!!
    You shoulda seen the look on her face! :rotflmao:
     
  23. Mortfini

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    This just shows up the 2 faced randy moss and how he only cares for 1 thing
    himself





    as for the draft

    at 1st i did not like it but as i heard more info it looks like we have build a real hard tackling ravens style D

    as for the k we got if what people r saying is true theres no need to pick a kicker for the next 10drafts

    kudos to TT he really shows that he might not know what to draft in the early rounds but he knows how to make the most of our late picks
     
  24. pyledriver80

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    Dude, he wanted to play for a winner, period. It's not 2 Faced. WTF do you expect. Look at this draft, look at this roster and then look at NE's.

    How the hell can you expect anyone to want to come to GB with captain Tightass in charge?

    Your excuses are getting stale. TT can not get it done and the Moss deal was a microcosm of why this team is going in the dumpster. Noone wants to come here. They want to go to NE because they want to win not pinch pennies.
     
  25. flapackfan

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    YES YES YES

    100% correct. TT's lack of competency has ruined our chance at competing in 2007. Fire his fking *** now
     

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