tynimiller
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I get all the stuff about likely to be earned and what not...I guess my question was more would the NFLPA be ok with such a contract. I can't think of an instance when a player had a contract like this? Roster bonuses yes, but not to that extent
Yeah, if I was paying an agent whatever percentage I would expect them to make me more $ than I could get by myself. Endorsements could obviously be a part of that.
I just think it was a neat idea for the fans to step up and get something done to keep a guy like Aaron Jones on the team next season. Im sure there's plenty of Packers fans that own buisness' etc. And it would be a way to get around the salary cap within the rules.
Actually looking at Jones' contract...he has a 2024 cap hit of 17.5 m and a deadcap number of about 12.5 m. With only 5 million to be saved against the cap. In my opinion it wouldn't be worth cutting him for the savings. In fact I would be in favor of extending him to lower that cap number and allow him to finish his career in GB with Love
Couple things...or thoughts.
Such bonuses as described for a per game to that degree with Bahk could have massive cap implications. Unless the league changed there are two types of incentives you can place in a contract and they hit the different caps:
Likely to be earned incentives (LTBE) are ones that the player reached in the prior year...so say you signed Bakh to a whole new deal...placing a $250,000 incentive if he reaches playing in 12 games would not fall into a LTBE because he didn't achieve it previously. However, say we decided to go out and sign Michael Pittman to a contract. He put up 1152 yards and 109 receptions. We could include in his contract $150,000 LTBE incentive for 1,000 yards and 100 receptions....now $300,000 would be calculated against that year's CAP (in this example 2024). IF he didn't achieve the receptions but met the yards, $150,000 would be credited on to the next year's CAP figure for the team.
Then there are Not Likely To Be Earned (NLTBE) and these are incentives which the player did not earn in the previous year - this monetary amount doesn't hit in that year's cap but the next years cap. So sticking with the Pittman example...say we tell him we will give you $250,000 incentive if you hit 1,300 and if you get 120 receptions. Both of those figures are things he did not do in 2023. So IF he were to meet both of those figures, half a million would come off our 2025 cap number.
This is why incentives are a nightmare, they can cause MASSIVE cap implications and not just in the present but in the future....this and the fact players want money not a chance at money is why while we have incentives in many contracts they are not millions and millions typically. Honestly, Love's play this year and hitting some of his likely NLTBE figures is lowering our cap space in 2024.
As for Jones, you have to look at his dead money...due to void years. Yes his dead cap is around 12 and his hit is around 17....but it isn't that clean. There is $6.6M already shoved into years he isn't under contract...so the wiggle room of doing an extension, saving us money and likely giving him some more guarantee (him and his agent ain't doing an extension for free lol) is limited. Arguably you could spread a couple million a year out in a two or three year extension, use one or two void years and keep shave his hit to like $13M or $14M next year.....maybe...and likely have to have a hit of $10+M in 2025 and close to that in 2026 to make it work.....which remind ourselves he is going to be 32 by then.