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Lol...nothing free about those prices...but I guess when you can drop $10k on a ticket...concessions at that price look free
I wonder how many of those rich fat cats who can drop 10s of thousands for a skybox actually watched the game from the first snap to the last.
To some of them it may be more like a party and they spend the whole time eating, drinking and chatting instead.
It is their life and money and they can do whatever they want but I find it odd if there are those who go there and barely watch the game.
 

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It is their life and money and they can do whatever they want but I find it odd if there are those who go there and barely watch the game.
Not much different than any sporting event, including college, just a bit more inflated prices. I have "watched" a few games from luxury boxes and as you said, many are just there for the social aspect.

Sports has to lead all forms of entertainment in inflation of ticket prices in the last 50 years. Someday fans will say "enough is enough" and either stop watching or stay home and watch.

I tried going to the Packers last SB game in Dallas, but couldn't justify paying $1500 for a ticket originally priced at $800. 12 years later, $8869 was the average price of a ticket to this SB....that's just nuts.
 
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Not much different than any sporting event, including college, just a bit more inflated prices. I have "watched" a few games from luxury boxes and as you said, many are just there for the social aspect.

Sports has to lead all forms of entertainment in inflation of ticket prices in the last 50 years. Someday fans will say "enough is enough" and either stop watching or stay home and watch.

I tried going to the Packers last SB game in Dallas, but couldn't justify paying $1500 for a ticket originally priced at $800. 12 years later, $8869 was the average price of a ticket to this SB....that's just nuts.
I remember a few SBs ago there was a shot of a man in the seats who had dozed off and it went viral!
Turns out his seat was comped by a company he worked for.
So I suspect that is the case for a lot of seats though the majority are still from rich fans who can afford it.

It is insane how greedy it gets and I dunno if the fans will ever be fed up.
Working 6 pack Joe can't get in but the rich CEO and his friends of the company he works for can and those are probably the types that are getting in.

In an article I saw the lowest tix were $3300.
Thousands of dollars of 3 or 8 are not even going to be the best seats!
It is nuts.
 

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Not sure where to post this but the Rams did pretty much everything I’ve asked from the Packers over the past decade and they won the SB.

They identified their in season weaknesses and made moves. They felt they needed a pass rusher and traded for Miller. How many times have we seen the Packers unwilling to pull the trigger on a player that could really help us. Tony Gonzales and Marshawn Lynch immediately come to mind for me.

Then you have OBJ who was interested in coming here and somehow the Packers dropped the ball. For the second straight season the Packers had the opportunity to sign a troubled but talented WR and for the second straight season that WR not only won the SB but scored a TD in it.

The Rams even went and signed Weddle out of retirement because they wanted the experience at S instead of having a younger player in there capable of mistakes.

Identify your weaknesses and attack them. Be aggressive. Instead the Packers continue to struggle with the same philosophy of just hoping that what they put together in the off-season will just magically elevate itself come playoff time. That isn’t how the game works.
 

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The packers could play in every super bowl from now until 2057 and I wouldn't have any intention of going to any. It's become about the spectacle and they likely couldn't pay me to endure that.

My cousin went to the super bowl in Dallas. Where they oversold huge sections of seats and if you werelucky enough to get one you were informed that if you got up to go take a leak or anything, someone else would be ushered to your seat and you'd get watch CCTV until another seat opened up.
 

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Not sure where to post this but the Rams did pretty much everything I’ve asked from the Packers over the past decade and they won the SB.

They identified their in season weaknesses and made moves. They felt they needed a pass rusher and traded for Miller. How many times have we seen the Packers unwilling to pull the trigger on a player that could really help us. Tony Gonzales and Marshawn Lynch immediately come to mind for me.

Then you have OBJ who was interested in coming here and somehow the Packers dropped the ball. For the second straight season the Packers had the opportunity to sign a troubled but talented WR and for the second straight season that WR not only won the SB but scored a TD in it.

The Rams even went and signed Weddle out of retirement because they wanted the experience at S instead of having a younger player in there capable of mistakes.

Identify your weaknesses and attack them. Be aggressive. Instead the Packers continue to struggle with the same philosophy of just hoping that what they put together in the off-season will just magically elevate itself come playoff time. That isn’t how the game works.
and still they needed the help of that 1 flag after a very poor pass to give them more chances and then multiple opportunities after that. Without that flag we easily are talking about how the mortgaged everything and lost anyway. These games are all close and we beat both these teams already and people act like GB is just so far away LOL.

It's OK, my kids don't appreciate anything either. Hoping they start to realize some things as they grow up.
 

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Where they oversold huge sections of seats and if you werelucky enough to get one you were informed that if you got up to go take a leak or anything, someone else would be ushered to your seat and you'd get watch CCTV until another seat opened up.
How is that even legal for them to give away your seat that you paid for?

and still they needed the help of that 1 flag after a very poor pass to give them more chances and then multiple opportunities after that. Without that flag we easily are talking about how the mortgaged everything and lost anyway.
They wouldn't have needed the help of that flag if the refs had correctly called the missed facemask earlier in the game.
 

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How is that even legal for them to give away your seat that you paid for?


They wouldn't have needed the help of that flag if the refs had correctly called the missed facemask earlier in the game.
They missed stuff all game long. Big stuff both ways. Stuff that happens earlier, though important isn't really as glaring as the stuff they do late because there is no time to make up for anything.

Yes, they should have called a facemask or OPI. They should have also given Cincy a 1st down on their first drive because Donald was egregiously in the neutral zone. That was not helmet is into it a bit, he was so far over his shoulders were in it and his practically in what would be considered the backfield LOL. But in both instances, there was an entire half of football to play.

anyway, it was a big 3rd down, the infraction was one of the variety that occurs on every single pattern like that on every down in the nfl and they rarely if ever call it. If the ball had been out in front and his hold impeded him significantly, maybe. But it was a very bad pass and well behind the receiver and I'd hesitate to call that contact an infraction at all to begin with. How you can reward such a bad play at such a pivotal moment? It detracted from a pretty decent game IMO.
 

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anyway, it was a big 3rd down, the infraction was one of the variety that occurs on every single pattern like that on every down in the nfl and they rarely if ever call it. If the ball had been out in front and his hold impeded him significantly, maybe. But it was a very bad pass and well behind the receiver and I'd hesitate to call that contact an infraction at all to begin with. How you can reward such a bad play at such a pivotal moment? It detracted from a pretty decent game IMO.

You can't let minor contact go the entire game and then decide to call it when the game is on the line. Mike Perriera even said it wasn't a hold. But the play should have never happened anyway because the entire OL had an obvious false start.

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I missed that, but man that was pretty obvious. RT and RG, Left T all moved and were back peddling before the ball was snapped.
 
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Not sure where to post this but the Rams did pretty much everything I’ve asked from the Packers over the past decade and they won the SB.

They identified their in season weaknesses and made moves. They felt they needed a pass rusher and traded for Miller. How many times have we seen the Packers unwilling to pull the trigger on a player that could really help us. Tony Gonzales and Marshawn Lynch immediately come to mind for me.

Then you have OBJ who was interested in coming here and somehow the Packers dropped the ball. For the second straight season the Packers had the opportunity to sign a troubled but talented WR and for the second straight season that WR not only won the SB but scored a TD in it.

The Rams even went and signed Weddle out of retirement because they wanted the experience at S instead of having a younger player in there capable of mistakes.

Identify your weaknesses and attack them. Be aggressive. Instead the Packers continue to struggle with the same philosophy of just hoping that what they put together in the off-season will just magically elevate itself come playoff time. That isn’t how the game works.
Yeah, we need more key game changers in more spots and one QB and receiver just ain't gonna be enough.

As I brought up before we don't have that on D Fence as we did before with Reggie White and Clay.
 
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They wouldn't have needed the help of that flag if the refs had correctly called the missed facemask earlier in the game.
I thought TDs were reviewed?
So how did they miss that one?

Yeah, the refs owed the Rams one.
At least.
I like watching cheaters lose.
 
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You can't let minor contact go the entire game and then decide to call it when the game is on the line. Mike Perriera even said it wasn't a hold. But the play should have never happened anyway because the entire OL had an obvious false start.

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Oh wow. :roflmao: That was vary Obvious I’m surprised they let that play go

Wasn’t it that same Line Judge? the one that shook Staffords hand on the way out of the tunnel? HmMm
 

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I missed that, but man that was pretty obvious. RT and RG, Left T all moved and were back peddling before the ball was snapped.
Even drew the Bengals lineman offsides. This is a case where I am in favor of a team being able to use a challenge on any play they choose to. Currently, offsides is not reviewable or illegal procedure is not reviewable, since it is deemed a "judgement call". Neither was that facemask no-call reviewable. Now I am not saying a coach can throw the red flag and say "we are challenging you to find a penalty during the play", more of a "we saw X happen and you missed it, it cost us big time and it should be corrected." If the replay proves the challenge to be warranted, get it right. I would much rather see a coach hang on to challenges that could swing the game one way or another VS using them on a questionable 15 yard reception on their own 35 in the first Quarter.

I find it funny that they will review the spot of a ball in a complete pile of players at the goal line or for a first down, yet they won't review a false start or offsides.
 
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Welp, the 2021 NFL season is now officially over.

Which means that now we have to put up with *Groan* too much baseball as we wait for effing ever for the next football season to start.
If A-Rod comes back then to have another great winning season only for him and the team to blow it in another play off game!
Hey!
Isn't being a football fan fun?
LOL

Just sayin I am so tired and done with the SOS year after year.
Go Pack Go and break the mold next time.
Will ya guys?
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Even drew the Bengals lineman offsides. This is a case where I am in favor of a team being able to use a challenge on any play they choose to. Currently, offsides is not reviewable or illegal procedure is not reviewable, since it is deemed a "judgement call". Neither was that facemask no-call reviewable. Now I am not saying a coach can throw the red flag and say "we are challenging you to find a penalty during the play", more of a "we saw X happen and you missed it, it cost us big time and it should be corrected." If the replay proves the challenge to be warranted, get it right. I would much rather see a coach hang on to challenges that could swing the game one way or another VS using them on a questionable 15 yard reception on their own 35 in the first Quarter.

I find it funny that they will review the spot of a ball in a complete pile of players at the goal line or for a first down, yet they won't review a false start or offsides.
Aw dude, I totally agree!

Even though I was rooting for the Rams to win, I will set aside that bias and say that there needs to be incentives in place for the Refs to get it right.
I find it unfair that they can fine players to try and make them play the game in a fair way but they refs get away with so many blown calls that we have seen be game changers time and time again and we will see it again if things do not change.
The refs should get threats with cuts in pay or even suspension or loss of a job when they mess it up.
There needs to be some kind of system for them to review penalties.
 
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Oh wow. :roflmao: That was vary Obvious I’m surprised they let that play go

Wasn’t it that same Line Judge? the one that shook Staffords hand on the way out of the tunnel? HmMm
Stafford was palming a quarter and passed it to him for the meter.
 

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Welp, the 2021 NFL season is now officially over.

Which means that now we have to put up with *Groan* too much baseball
Well, you might not have to worry about too much baseball. MLB is on its 71st day of a lockout and it doesn't even sound like the owners and players are even close to settling things. Spring training would normally start for pitchers and catchers tomorrow. Long way off from that happening. I guess one of the things that owners really want is to be able to sell advertising on uniforms. The NBA has done it and I doubt it isn't too long before we see something like this in MLB and the NFL.

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Well, you might not have to worry about too much baseball. MLB is on its 71st day of a lockout and it doesn't even sound like the owners and players are even close to settling things. Spring training would normally start for pitchers and catchers tomorrow. Long way off from that happening. I guess one of the things that owners really want is to be able to sell advertising on uniforms. The NBA has done it and I doubt it isn't too long before we see something like this in MLB and the NFL.

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I won't like seeing ad logos on jerseys. It ruins the look.
Especially the best logo of the ball in glove of the Brewers.
Why distract from that?

I love it that Lamebau, and yes even Soldier Field, are two of the last stadiums in all sports that are refusing to sell out to that naming rights garbage.

Even though it was naming rights it just made more sense for the Brewers to be playing in Miller Park, ya know?
But then they switch over to name it for an insurance company?
I'm surprised that when a player gets injured the announcer does not come in and say every time, "That was a tough collision and as you can see the trainer is escorting Juan Lopez off the field but ACME Insurance will cover him just like how they will cover all of your needs for health, auto and home. ACME Insurance. Call your local insurance agent today!"

(I know what the real name of the insurance company is who the stadium is named after for now but I will not give them free advertising by using their real name.)
 

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Even drew the Bengals lineman offsides. This is a case where I am in favor of a team being able to use a challenge on any play they choose to. Currently, offsides is not reviewable or illegal procedure is not reviewable, since it is deemed a "judgement call". Neither was that facemask no-call reviewable. Now I am not saying a coach can throw the red flag and say "we are challenging you to find a penalty during the play", more of a "we saw X happen and you missed it, it cost us big time and it should be corrected." If the replay proves the challenge to be warranted, get it right. I would much rather see a coach hang on to challenges that could swing the game one way or another VS using them on a questionable 15 yard reception on their own 35 in the first Quarter.

I find it funny that they will review the spot of a ball in a complete pile of players at the goal line or for a first down, yet they won't review a false start or offsides.

Not only review it but they may even move the ball 6 inches after a 5 minute review. I remember McCarthy challenging the spot one time. They ruled the runner was short of the first down and he threw the flag. They looked at it and moved the ball 6 inches closer but it was still short so they charged a timeout. I wondered what exactly was challenged. Did he challenge that it was a first down because if he did then yes he was wrong and should have been charged the TO. If he simply challenged the spot of the ball then he was obviously right because they moved it and thus he shouldn't have been charged the TO.

Maybe they should make it so that a team has 3 challenges but if they want they can use 2 challenges on any one play to challenge any call they want. That way an egregious missed call like the illegal procedure could still be challenged. Call it a super challenge but the the team has to have at least 2 challenges to call it. Or make it optional to give up a TO even if they get it right to be able to challenge such plays. You still need to have a challenge to throw the flag but if its a "non reviewable" call they can say Ok we will give up a TO even if we get the challenge.

For the most part I like replay but I don't think it is as good as it could be. A lot of so called judgement calls that are not reviewable are not really judgments as they are simply missed. That illegal procedure non call was not a judgement call it was a missed call and as such should be reviewable.

I won't like seeing ad logos on jerseys. It ruins the look.
Especially the best logo of the ball in glove of the Brewers.
Why distract from that?

Dollars, many many dollars.
 

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For the most part I like replay but I don't think it is as good as it could be. A lot of so called judgement calls that are not reviewable are not really judgments as they are simply missed. That illegal procedure non call was not a judgement call it was a missed call and as such should be reviewable.
Agreed. However, I do recognize that you can't be reviewing everything all the time. But it would be nice if obvious bad calls were immediately corrected by an official in the booth. A real novel concept, but it seems like 90% of the time that calls are missed, the people in the booth haven't missed them, they see more of the field than on the HC. Each team puts a person in the booth, specifically to buzz down twice per game max...right or wrong. Doesn't matter the call, if they really think it is important, they use a buzz down. Keep the coaches challenges as is or max those out at 2.

I would rather be blaming our coaches for either not challenging a blown call or not saving a challenge to do so. This blaming the refs for being human and missing something, after the fact, is getting old.
 

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I won't like seeing ad logos on jerseys. It ruins the look.
Especially the best logo of the ball in glove of the Brewers.
Why distract from that?

I love it that Lamebau, and yes even Soldier Field, are two of the last stadiums in all sports that are refusing to sell out to that naming rights garbage.

Even though it was naming rights it just made more sense for the Brewers to be playing in Miller Park, ya know?
But then they switch over to name it for an insurance company?
I'm surprised that when a player gets injured the announcer does not come in and say every time, "That was a tough collision and as you can see the trainer is escorting Juan Lopez off the field but ACME Insurance will cover him just like how they will cover all of your needs for health, auto and home. ACME Insurance. Call your local insurance agent today!"

(I know what the real name of the insurance company is who the stadium is named after for now but I will not give them free advertising by using their real name.)
Sports owners would let you put urinal mints in all the johns, with your companies name on it, if it made them money. Why not, they have a captive market, especially at a urinal. :cool:
 

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Agreed. However, I do recognize that you can't be reviewing everything all the time. But it would be nice if obvious bad calls were immediately corrected by an official in the booth. A real novel concept, but it seems like 90% of the time that calls are missed, the people in the booth haven't missed them, they see more of the field than on the HC. Each team puts a person in the booth, specifically to buzz down twice per game max...right or wrong. Doesn't matter the call, if they really think it is important, they use a buzz down. Keep the coaches challenges as is or max those out at 2.

I would rather be blaming our coaches for either not challenging a blown call or not saving a challenge to do so. This blaming the refs for being human and missing something, after the fact, is getting old.

Doesn't even need to be each team. Just have another official in the booth watching the same thing we are watching. They usually show replays of questionable calls before the next play is snapped anyway. If they see anything they push the buzzer and the official on the field stops the play and listens to what he has to say. I didn't see the game but I'm sure they showed a replay of that play and the announcers were probably all thinking it was an illegal procedure. However they do it something needs to be done so that calls like that are not missed. Like I said, those are not judgement calls. He either moved before the ball was snapped or he didn't.
 

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