2026 Roster Thread - Semi-Live

[GreenBaySlacker]

I think GB was going to do that too if reed and rosenhaus didn't take what was offered.
Something tells me Reed was being shipped for that Miami #30, and the target we were after got picked and ruined the move. That Chris Johnson CB our target possibly?

Just an odd timing for a contract extension. It tells a story.

Nevermind. Miami traded up and stole Chris Johnson lol. There goes that theory.

 

[OldSchool101]

I just wondered what made Reed the one to get the gold instead of Wicks or Doubs before they left. To me they were like the 3 Amigos. Watson is in a different category.

Well for one Reed was our leading WR for 2 straight seasons until last year when he was injured early week 2.
He went from 900 All purpose Rookie of the Year #6 to 1,000 all purpose as a Sophomore to catching a TD on a bomb and injuring early season. Took some work to mount a comeback but he’s a very good Slot.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Well for one Reed was our leading WR for 2 straight seasons until last year when he was injured early week 2.
He went from 900 All purpose Rookie of the Year #6 to 1,000 all purpose as a Sophomore to catching a TD on a bomb and injuring early season. Took some work to mount a comeback but he’s a very good Slot.

Watson, reed, Golden Kraft with Jacob's backing them up keeping the defense honest..... Our skill players are going to be wrecking defenses this year.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I noticed that too. Not many edge rushers either.... Considering the trends.

There were two notre dame RBs picked though. Lol which is weird.

Yeah GBS I don't remember 2 RBs going in the first round, much less from the same school.

FWIW I think Arizona erred taking a RB at #3. They have bigger problems to fix first. I never understood picking a RB that high, or anywhere in round 1, if the OL wasn't in place to support it.

Then again, I don't know Arizona that well, so I might be wrong on this. Maybe OL is one of their few strengths. Saquon B was selected 2nd overall and was certainly worth the pick.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Well for one Reed was our leading WR for 2 straight seasons until last year when he was injured early week 2.
He went from 900 All purpose Rookie of the Year #6 to 1,000 all purpose as a Sophomore to catching a TD on a bomb and injuring early season. Took some work to mount a comeback but he’s a very good Slot.

Agreed and thanks for the stats OS. Except for that freak shoulder injury last year, I think Reed has been healthy.

As for Doubs, he was just the odd man out this year. WR 1-3 is pretty much set as Watson, Reed, and Golden. Not enough snaps if they kept Doubs and/or Wicks. That said, I really liked Doubs. He was a possession receiver right out of central casting.

Now the big question is what will Watson's deal look like? Reed is at $17 mil/AAV, approx and just dividing total contract worth by years. I think Watson is worth $25 mil AAV but I'm sure he and his agent are looking at $30 mil as a starting point.

Watson is very good and plays with a ton of heart, much like Jacobs. I was worried about his soft-tissue injuries (hamstrings) and he seems to have solved that. If it takes $30 mil, or $25 mil and a bigger signing bonus, it's still worth doing on a 3-year deal, maybe 4 years.

Thoughts anyone?

 

[Heyjoe4]

Out of the three, I'd say Reed was the best keeper. With doubs a close 2nd. Doubs contract ending a year sooner probably was the deciding factor. Logistics....

Savion williams, I believe was meant to replace wicks. A faster version.

I think you nailed it GBS. WRs 1-3 will be Watson, Reed, and Golden. Williams will probably get a few more targets than Wicks did, so it will pay for him to have a big TC and PS to stay on MLF's radar.

Golden is still unproven, although that's not the right word to use. He only got 44 targets last year. 44! But I like what I've seen from him. He had a great TC and PS and when he did get targeted, he caught just about everything. Golden will have a big 2026-2027 season.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Absolutely not, I was actually shocked at the figure both in total and the guarantee.

If we know or are signing Watson to extension I say no WR pick till our third pick of the draft IMO

I thought Reed's contract was very reasonable as well. I expected him to be closer to $20 mil/AAV with a $30 mil signing bonus. This is a great deal for all. Now get Watson locked down.

And as it turns out, out WRs were taken in the draft. I think if Gluten hadn't taken a K, he would have taken a WR.

Anyway I like that Reed is on board. He'll be a possession receiver with the loss of Doubs. And Reed can do more than that.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I just wondered what made Reed the one to get the gold instead of Wicks or Doubs before they left. To me they were like the 3 Amigos. Watson is in a different category.

Interesting comments milani. I don't think Wicks was in the same category of play as Doubs and Reed. Even so, Wicks came through when he had to. And he should be happy about going to Philly, where WR has gotten very fluid.

Reed is a better YAC treat than Doubs IMO. Both have great hands, both are great possession receivers, both are great route runners. There just weren't enough targets to go around to keep both. I think Reed was the better player, FWIW.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I think GB was going to do that too if reed and rosenhaus didn't take what was offered.
Something tells me Reed was being shipped for that Miami #30, and the target we were after got picked and ruined the move. That Chris Johnson CB our target possibly?

Just an odd timing for a contract extension. It tells a story.

Signing Reed is a case of "a bird in the hand". Even if someone gave up the #30 pick, I wouldn't do that deal. We know what have in Reed, and it's good and proven. This will be a developmental year for Golden, and GB just couldn't afford to trade Reed. That is, they need the experience of Watson and Reed for those hopefully rare times when Golden falters.

GB is gonna need Watson and Reed to stay healthy. Doubs and Wicks came in handy last year when Reed went down. The team doesn't have the same depth at WR, so health will be vital for success.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Rookie Numbers are in! But before that, Javon Bullard has decided to take Walker's old number and will now be #7!

Brandon Cisse will be wearing Mason & Malik's old number: #2

CMC: #55

DDS: #51 (wish he would have gotten #2)

Jager Burton: #52

Domani Jackson: #20

Trey Smack: #28 As long as he goes 28 for 28 on FG's he can wear any number that he wants.

 

[DoURant]

The Rookie Numbers are in! But before that, Javon Bullard has decided to take Walker's old number and will now be #7!

Brandon Cisse will be wearing Mason Crosby's old number: #2

CMC: #55

DDS: #51 (wish he would have chose #52)

Jager Burton: #52

Domani Jackson: #20

Trey Smack: #28 As long as he goes 28 for 28 on FG's he can wear any number that he wants.

Yeah, Trey couldn't go with his college #29, McKinney has a firm hold on that one. I was thinking about #2 for him, but Cisse got the first crack at numbers. Cisse was looking for a new number from the get go, with Bart's #15 retired.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yeah, Trey couldn't go with his college #29, McKinney has a firm hold on that one. I was thinking about #2 for him, but Cisse got the first crack at numbers. Cisse was looking for a new number from the get go, with Bart's #15 retired.

Yup and Evans has #33, so DDS couldn't snag that. As I said above, I would have liked to have seen DDS get #2. Then when he and Parsons are on the field together you have #1 and #2.

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[Heyjoe4]

Well for one Reed was our leading WR for 2 straight seasons until last year when he was injured early week 2.
He went from 900 All purpose Rookie of the Year #6 to 1,000 all purpose as a Sophomore to catching a TD on a bomb and injuring early season. Took some work to mount a comeback but he’s a very good Slot.

Well said, thanks for the info OS.

I was on the fence between Reed and Doubs. Doubs was a better possession receiver and ran slightly better routes. Reed just seemed like he was faster and better at YAC, although I have no stats on that, and he can be used in the sweep better than Doubs. Finally, Reed was better at long routes than Doubs.

And then Doubs had that mystery suspension a few years back. I don't think we ever learned what that was about. Anyway, all the best to Doubs. I like him a lot.

And congrats to Reed - getting a contract for a job well done.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And then Doubs had that mystery suspension a few years back. I don't think we ever learned what that was about. Anyway, all the best to Doubs. I like him a lot.

Doubs missed practice and meetings on both Thursday and Friday, October 3–4, 2024. Early reports were that he wasn't happy with his role and # of targets. Later he stated that those things weren't the problem, it was something he was dealing with off the field.

My observations. Doubs was a completely different guy when he returned. Besides one big TD celebration, where it looked like teammates and fans tried to embrace him and bring him back to the team, he seemed detached. Just his body language on the field and the sidelines told me he wasn't all the happy being a Packer. We may never know, but I think one of the reasons he became a Free Agent was that the Packers really felt it was best for him and the team, to just let him walk.

 

[tynimiller]

Doubs missed practice and meetings on both Thursday and Friday, October 3–4, 2024. Early reports were that he wasn't happy with his role and # of targets. Later he stated that those things weren't the problem, it was something he was dealing with off the field.

My observations. Doubs was a completely different guy when he returned. Besides one big TD celebration, where it looked like teammates and fans tried to embrace him and bring him back to the team, he seemed detached. Just his body language on the field and the sidelines told me he wasn't all the happy being a Packer. We may never know, but I think one of the reasons he became a Free Agent was that the Packers really felt it was best for him and the team, to just let him walk.

Doubs' never had an issue with GB, it was internal and outside of football. There have been less than a handful of Packers' that their story just for some reason resonated with me more than his and I still now hope he becomes one of the best WRs in the league at the cost of 30 other teams (not us).

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Doubs' never had an issue with GB, it was internal and outside of football. There have been less than a handful of Packers' that their story just for some reason resonated with me more than his and I still now hope he becomes one of the best WRs in the league at the cost of 30 other teams (not us).

No doubt I wish Doubs the best of luck with his career and I still think he is a good WR. I don't think the Pats give him the kind of contract that they did if he wasn't. While it was definitely a WR room and numbers thing in Green Bay and I am glad that they didn't match the Patriots contract. If that is all it was, great, but it just felt like after that 2024 incident, Romeo's time in GB wasn't going to extend past his rookie deal.

 

[gopkrs]

Doubs' never had an issue with GB, it was internal and outside of football. There have been less than a handful of Packers' that their story just for some reason resonated with me more than his and I still now hope he becomes one of the best WRs in the league at the cost of 30 other teams (not us).

I've got his jersey
Maybe he'll come back.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Jayden Reed contract info. is out and I really like it. I don't really look at how much money the Packers pay a player anymore. I look at the cap hits, while keeping an eye of the dead cap as well.

I also like the fact that $5.8M is in game day roster bonuses. This helps hedge against injury issues.

I would call this a safe and reasonable deal for both the Packers and Reed.

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[OldSchool101]

Agreed and thanks for the stats OS. Except for that freak shoulder injury last year, I think Reed has been healthy.

As for Doubs, he was just the odd man out this year. WR 1-3 is pretty much set as Watson, Reed, and Golden. Not enough snaps if they kept Doubs and/or Wicks. That said, I really liked Doubs. He was a possession receiver right out of central casting.

Now the big question is what will Watson's deal look like? Reed is at $17 mil/AAV, approx and just dividing total contract worth by years. I think Watson is worth $25 mil AAV but I'm sure he and his agent are looking at $30 mil as a starting point.

Watson is very good and plays with a ton of heart, much like Jacobs. I was worried about his soft-tissue injuries (hamstrings) and he seems to have solved that. If it takes $30 mil, or $25 mil and a bigger signing bonus, it's still worth doing on a 3-year deal, maybe 4 years.

Thoughts anyone?

I like what we did with Reed.
3yr $50.25Mil
But absorb some added ($4M) Cap hit this year. So
2026 $6.8Mil
2027 $10.8Mil
2028 $17.2Mil
2029 $17.25mil

Several million tied to playing time and a contract out in 2029 with $5mil dead cap. If we stretch it over 4 years his average cap hit is $13Mil X 4yrs

 

[OldSchool101]

I think we’ll see a slightly higher offer with Watson in the 4Yr X $95Mil extension area, but cap hits averaging closer to $16-17mil annual average figuring in his 2026 remaining carry over. Just a guess.

 

[adambr2]

I like the Reed extension. The LVN 5th year option being exercised, not so much.

I am not saying that Gute is a bad GM, but this organization as a whole doesn’t weight past performance nearly heavily enough into their analysis of what a player will become. They don’t do it at the collegiate level, and they don’t do it at the professional level.

In a vacuum, yes, you are paying for a player’s future, not their past. However, the past 3 seasons should give you some indication on what the future holds.

Picking up 5th year options of guys like Savage and LVN is poor procedure based on a sunk cost fallacy simply because of the level of investment.

If LVN were a 4th round pick we wouldn’t be dreaming of giving him a 1 year, 15M dollar extension for 2027.

 

[tynimiller]

I like the Reed extension. The LVN 5th year option being exercised, not so much.

I am not saying that Gute is a bad GM, but this organization as a whole doesn’t weight past performance nearly heavily enough into their analysis of what a player will become. They don’t do it at the collegiate level, and they don’t do it at the professional level.

In a vacuum, yes, you are paying for a player’s future, not their past. However, the past 3 seasons should give you some indication on what the future holds.

Picking up 5th year options of guys like Savage and LVN is poor procedure based on a sunk cost fallacy simply because of the level of investment.

If LVN were a 4th round pick we wouldn’t be dreaming of giving him a 1 year, 15M dollar extension for 2027.

Your last paragraph, I actually disagree - given that Parsons is hurt and Kingsley is gone and LVN truly ascending in performance albeit slower than some like but cannot be denied that he absolutely is each year.

I think we’d easily consider extending him one year at that additional cost and we could have under that world shifted some of that to this years cap hit and likely spread it a touch. LVN is likely getting that much on the market next year absolutely if we didn’t pick up option.

 

[adambr2]

Your last paragraph, I actually disagree - given that Parsons is hurt and Kingsley is gone and LVN truly ascending in performance albeit slower than some like but cannot be denied that he absolutely is each year.

I think we’d easily consider extending him one year at that additional cost and we could have under that world shifted some of that to this years cap hit and likely spread it a touch. LVN is likely getting that much on the market next year absolutely if we didn’t pick up option.

I guess that’s the hope. Boye Mafe got 3 years, 60M so I don’t think it’s totally out of left field. Pass rushers are expensive on one hand, and on the other, LVN hasn’t been very productive so you have to bake in some kind of projection to pay him.

So I’m sure they’re hoping to get something similar to what the Bengals are hoping for from Mafe.

 

[Magooch]

Picking up 5th year options of guys like Savage and LVN is poor procedure based on a sunk cost fallacy simply because of the level of investment.

Yes, I very much agree with this.
I understand that of course there are costs to simply acquiring a player. But when considering a player extension, as a bit of a thought-exercise...I always ask myself: How much would I pay for this player if I were signing them in free agency?

If LVN were not already in-house and available to sign as a free agent - setting aside all the miscellaneous fees and whatnot, would I offer him 15m a year? I would be inclined to look at the market for the past few years and ask if I can get "second starter" production for that same price or less.

If LVN were a 4th round pick we wouldn’t be dreaming of giving him a 1 year, 15M dollar extension for 2027.

In a vacuum, I agree with this too. The only thing that I think works in his favor is the injury/depth situation around him, and that we are probably hedging our bets on hoping that he has a good performance with Micah healthy and we're not put in a situation where he's on a lame duck contract and we have to overpay to keep him at that point.

 

[tynimiller]

I guess that’s the hope. Boye Mafe got 3 years, 60M so I don’t think it’s totally out of left field. Pass rushers are expensive on one hand, and on the other, LVN hasn’t been very productive so you have to bake in some kind of projection to pay him.

So I’m sure they’re hoping to get something similar to what the Bengals are hoping for from Mafe.

What is lack of production? We looking at solely pressures and sacks or everything?