2026 Roster Thread - Semi-Live

[Heyjoe4]

Personally I see both of those contract illustrations as equal in chance of happening. The actual cost of Watson's extension will not come close to $40M/yr of actual hit in years that happen.

Agreed. Watson isn’t going to get JJ and J Chase money. Probably closer to $25-30 mil AAV. That’s a guess.

Hard for me to believe either are worth spending time and space on. But I'll go with the flow if we bring either in. btw I was a Jaire fan from the day we drafted him.

I think Diggs has a better chance of coming back. JA’s injuries seem chronic. Too bad because he was a shutdown corner at the top of his game.

He would still justify a look. Just don’t see it.

 

[OldSchool101]

I'm surprised we didn't bring in any TE'S for Top 30 visits. Kraft coming off injury, and Fitzpatrick is injured, too, so that leaves Musgrave and Whyle are the only two completely healthy guys, out of the 4.

Might be a look into the future. Meaning it’s possible they offer Musgrave a smaller deal at $3-4 yearly on a multi year deal. I still think he’s getting better, he’s just not the ceiling player we thought he was. I even saw him perfect some really good blocks in the last couple of games. I had to replay it because I couldn’t believe it was him. He wears well. Catches everything

If I’m Brian (which im clearly not!)
I’m attempting at hitting him early with a smaller 3yr $10Mil type extension, with a contract out after 2027 ($4Mil guaranteed area). The reasoning is he’s in system and this Next draft we’ve got a plethora of mid round draft picks. I like that RD4 area at TE.

 

[tynimiller]

Might be a look into the future. Meaning it’s possible they offer Musgrave a smaller deal at $3-4 yearly on a multi year deal. I still think he’s getting better, he’s just not the ceiling player we thought he was. I even saw him perfect some really good blocks in the last couple of games. I had to replay it because I couldn’t believe it was him. He wears well. Catches everything

If I’m Brian (which im clearly not!)
I’m attempting at hitting him early with a smaller 3yr $10Mil type extension, with a contract out after 2027 ($4Mil guaranteed area). The reasoning is he’s in system and this Next draft we’ve got a plethora of mid round draft picks. I like that RD4 area at TE.

I actually think Whyle plays his way to seeing a small contract over Musgrave.

I do like the idea of extending one of them cheap

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe an under the radar signing/hiring for the Packers?

They have hired Jake Flint, a strength and conditioning coach for 17 years with LSU. He isn't replacing current S&C coach Aaron Hill, but joining him on the staff.

Packers Pick Up New Coach To Combat Injury Issues |

The Packers have hired LSU director of athletic performance Jake Flint as an assistant strength-and-conditioning coach hoping to address injury issues.

packerstalk.com

 

[Heyjoe4]

Salary Cap goes 300M+

I think the rising salary cap is gonna keep significant pieces for the roster and add some much needed upgrades for any weakness.

Agreed. Gotta love the NFL money machine. I do hope that Gluten can find a veteran at CB. I don’t think a D can be in the top 5 w/o a strong CB group, and the current group doesn’t cut it.

Personally I’ve been back and forth on this and who I think Gluten will pick if he stays at 52.

Ty predicted the pick would be the impressive Edge guy from Penn St. whose name escapes me but I love taking a solid DT here. He addressed iDL with Hargrave, and with Parsons out for the first 6-8 games, they need help at Edge.

Also hoping LVN can have the breakout year that’s been missing.

 

[gopkrs]

I still like Musgrave. He can be a good receiver imho.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ty predicted the pick would be the impressive Edge guy from Penn St. whose name escapes me but I love taking a solid DT here.

Dani Dennis-Sutton.

But shhhhhh......let's keep him quiet from the rest of the NFL.

Another PSU EDGE guy with Micah? Count me in.

I honestly don't know how he is being looked at as a "late 2nd/early 3rd round pick" by many. Some scouts note limited elite "bend" or speed-to-power around the corner, along with inconsistent pass-rush production against top-tier competition.

If Gute grabbed him at 52, I would be just fine with it, I think he has a real future in the NFL.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

I still like Musgrave. He can be a good receiver imho.

I haven't given up on him, but I hope he breaks out in 2027, after the Packers give him a cheap 4 year deal because they like him as their #2 TE.

If he never becomes an All Pro TE, he will probably carve out a nice career as a #2 TE in the NFL.

 

[tynimiller]

Dani Dennis-Sutton.

But shhhhhh......let's keep him quiet from the rest of the NFL.

Another PSU EDGE guy with Micah? Count me in.

I honestly don't know how he is being looked at as a "late 2nd/early 3rd round pick" by many. Some scouts note limited elite "bend" or speed-to-power around the corner, along with inconsistent pass-rush production against top-tier competition.

If Gute grabbed him at 52, I would be just fine with it, I think he has a real future in the NFL.

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I'm about to start dropping some threads and one is going to be "5 Guys The Consensus Is Lying About (To Me)" DDS is one of those guys.

 

[DoURant]

Dani Dennis-Sutton.

But shhhhhh......let's keep him quiet from the rest of the NFL.

Another PSU EDGE guy with Micah? Count me in.

I honestly don't know how he is being looked at as a "late 2nd/early 3rd round pick" by many. Some scouts note limited elite "bend" or speed-to-power around the corner, along with inconsistent pass-rush production against top-tier competition.

If Gute grabbed him at 52, I would be just fine with it, I think he has a real future in the NFL.

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Dennis-Sutton and Chris Johnson are my draft crushes this year... I would be fine with him at #52, also. EDGE is a need, imo, and 3rd and 4th rds set up better at DL and CB.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Might be a look into the future. Meaning it’s possible they offer Musgrave a smaller deal at $3-4 yearly on a multi year deal. I still think he’s getting better, he’s just not the ceiling player we thought he was. I even saw him perfect some really good blocks in the last couple of games. I had to replay it because I couldn’t believe it was him. He wears well. Catches everything

If I’m Brian (which im clearly not!)
I’m attempting at hitting him early with a smaller 3yr $10Mil type extension, with a contract out after 2027 ($4Mil guaranteed area). The reasoning is he’s in system and this Next draft we’ve got a plethora of mid round draft picks. I like that RD4 area at TE.

I didn’t know Musgrave improved his blocking. Good to hear. He now need to fix of lack of YAC. He’s a speedy version of Richard Rodgers. Catch ball. Fall down.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Dani Dennis-Sutton.

But shhhhhh......let's keep him quiet from the rest of the NFL.

Another PSU EDGE guy with Micah? Count me in.

I honestly don't know how he is being looked at as a "late 2nd/early 3rd round pick" by many. Some scouts note limited elite "bend" or speed-to-power around the corner, along with inconsistent pass-rush production against top-tier competition.

If Gute grabbed him at 52, I would be just fine with it, I think he has a real future in the NFL.

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I didn’t know about his reported lack of bend. That scared me a little because that has been LVN’s Achilles Heel.

Even so, I’m sure GB will take him if he’s still on the board at 52. Solid pedigree in Penn St.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Dennis-Sutton and Chris Johnson are my draft crushes this year... I would be fine with him at #52, also. EDGE is a need, imo, and 3rd and 4th rds set up better at DL and CB.

Spot on. If Dennis/Sutton is there at 52 pretty sure he’ll be the guy.

Parsons needs better edge guys around him, and LVN has been unspectacular when not injured.

 

[OldSchool101]

I didn’t know Musgrave improved his blocking. Good to hear. He now need to fix of lack of YAC. He’s a speedy version of Richard Rodgers. Catch ball. Fall down.

yeah well he might fall down without being tackled we’ve seen that. Although I noticed he had a great (team best at TE) yards “before catch” at 7.6 yards per last season. If he learned to bust it upfield after catch he’d be very dynamic.

 

[Heyjoe4]

yeah well he might fall down without being tackled we’ve seen that. Although I noticed he had a great (team best at TE) yards “before catch” at 7.6 yards per last season. If he learned to bust it upfield after catch he’d be very dynamic.

That's an interesting stat OS, YBC - 7.6 is impressive and tells us he's getting downfield. He looks more graceful than Rodgers, but his legs get tangled after a catch even if he has room to run. I don't know if he had that trait in college. He may get better with more reps - in practice and in game.

That's alright. If his blocking is improving and he can still run deep seam routes, he's contributing. Just ironic how much better 3rd pick Kraft is versus Musgrave. Another example of draft order not matching up with on-filed results.

 

[Magooch]

Dani Dennis-Sutton.

But shhhhhh......let's keep him quiet from the rest of the NFL.

Another PSU EDGE guy with Micah? Count me in.

I honestly don't know how he is being looked at as a "late 2nd/early 3rd round pick" by many. Some scouts note limited elite "bend" or speed-to-power around the corner, along with inconsistent pass-rush production against top-tier competition.

If Gute grabbed him at 52, I would be just fine with it, I think he has a real future in the NFL.

I'm about to start dropping some threads and one is going to be "5 Guys The Consensus Is Lying About (To Me)" DDS is one of those guys.

Dennis-Sutton and Chris Johnson are my draft crushes this year... I would be fine with him at #52, also. EDGE is a need, imo, and 3rd and 4th rds set up better at DL and CB.

Lo and Behold....Jordan Reid from ESPN just posted his final 7-round mock draft and indeed had us taking DDS with our first selection.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lo and Behold....Jordan Reid from ESPN just posted his final 7-round mock draft and indeed had us taking DDS with our first selection.

Just quickly going through his mock, from the 2nd round on, kind of reaffirms my thoughts on this draft for the Packers and have seen in the 10 or so mocks that I did.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dennis-Sutton and if Gute selected him with #52, I would be happy. However, I think given what was left on the board, at least in this mock, trading out of that #52 pick 10-20 spots later, will still get the Packers a good player, plus more darts to throw at a pretty solid group from 50-125+

 

[DoURant]

Lo and Behold....Jordan Reid from ESPN just posted his final 7-round mock draft and indeed had us taking DDS with our first selection.

I just think it makes sense, DDS is a Packersy pass rusher prospect. Plus, we need another difference maker at that position to pair with Parsons, and after Rd 2, you are just being redundant in what we already have. Parsons isn't playing out of the gate, and when he comes back, he will probably be on a pitch count. After that, he isn’t going to be a 3 down player every series. Now if Johnson or Miller are there at #52, highly unlikely, imo, run up the darn card. DDS "The Dentist", not sure if that is his real nickname or not, can be a difference maker, and being from Penn St like Parsons, might be an intangible in the making.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I know that people preach "draft the best player available", but if that player at #52 is a G, C, RB or S.....I would question Gute as to why he didn't trade back and pick up more picks. Obviously, sometimes there just isn't a good trade available and you have to make that pick. I also think that Gute will have 10 guys on his "would take at 52" list and if he doesn't trade, it will be one of them.

 

[OldSchool101]

That's an interesting stat OS, YBC - 7.6 is impressive and tells us he's getting downfield. He looks more graceful than Rodgers, but his legs get tangled after a catch even if he has room to run. I don't know if he had that trait in college. He may get better with more reps - in practice and in game.

That's alright. If his blocking is improving and he can still run deep seam routes, he's contributing. Just ironic how much better 3rd pick Kraft is versus Musgrave. Another example of draft order not matching up with on-filed results.

Another reason why generally speaking, I’d rather have a pair of 77 (76+78)overall picks than one singular 50 overall.

 

[DoURant]

I know that people preach "draft the best player available", but if that player at #52 is a G, C, RB or S.....I would question Gute as to why he didn't trade back and pick up more picks. Obviously, sometimes there just isn't a good trade available and you have to make that pick. I also think that Gute will have 10 guys on his "would take at 52" list and if he doesn't trade, it will be one of them.

I think the odds are better than 50/50 we trade back, especially since we don't have a #1 pick. Adding another pick, like they did with the Wicks trade, allows them to target guys they want. I read this afternoon, the Packers had a zoom call with Mike Washington Jr... after his 30 visit.... the interest seems real, and he is in that late 2nd, early 3rd projection area as we have gotten to the final days.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think the odds are better than 50/50 we trade back, especially since we don't have a #1 pick. Adding another pick, like they did with the Wicks trade, allows them to target guys they want. I read this afternoon, the Packers had a zoom call with Mike Washington Jr... after his 30 visit.... the interest seems real, and he is in that late 2nd, early 3rd projection area as we have gotten to the final days.

I’m totally good with a trade back. Now in some drafts we’ve had multiple 1st’s, 2nd’s or 3rd Round selections. There I’m not as eager. A #52 overall isn’t going to guarantee me much over a #62 selection (just as example). Yet you’re likely getting a 3rd Comp to opening pick in Day 3 after reviewing remaining players all night. I just think when we don’t have many Day1-2 picks it’s important to have more stabs from RD3-5 area.

I’d even be ok with a smaller trade back like
Jacksonville #56, #124, 2027 RD6
for
Green Bay #52, 2027 RD5

Brian tends to do good in that
#110-#160 area. Wicks, Evan Williams, Wooden, Tom, Doubs etc.
Getting an extra #124 gives us much better odds than RD5 next year.
#56, #84, #120, #124, #153, #160, #201, etc.

 

[tynimiller]

Just quickly going through his mock, from the 2nd round on, kind of reaffirms my thoughts on this draft for the Packers and have seen in the 10 or so mocks that I did.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dennis-Sutton and if Gute selected him with #52, I would be happy. However, I think given what was left on the board, at least in this mock, trading out of that #52 pick 10-20 spots later, will still get the Packers a good player, plus more darts to throw at a pretty solid group from 50-125+

Yes, if at 52 someone wants to move up I suspect Gute doe. And he would be smart to do so if the draft goes as I see it.

CBs fact is hit rate plummets after day 1 with not much difference between day2 and early day 3…unless Cisse or Johnson falls there is no reason to maybe stretch picking a CB there like Igninosun if you could trade back and say grab Julian Neal and later Prysock or even later Masses instead.

I’m similarly fearful the real strong DT prospects that Green Bay would want will be gone too…see above reference but plug names like instead of reaching for Big Citrus you double later with Kaleb Proctor and Demonte or even later Jordan Van De Berg or whatever his name is - freak RAS guy.

WR could play out same do you reach for a guy when trade back and maybe land a TE like Raridon and a WR like the kid from Ole Miss we had in or even later the freak speed kid Caldwell

The prime section of CB and DL is picks 75-150… if Gute can turn 52 into two picks within that or pick very close to 75 and just out of 150 HE NEEDS TO DO IT

Matter of fact my final mock prediction is likely going to have a trade back because all signs point to that OR us drafting an OL or Edge because that will be best available (or Brazzel)

 

[OldSchool101]

I actually think Whyle plays his way to seeing a small contract over Musgrave.

I do like the idea of extending one of them cheap

Interesting but we’ve done a good job of developing talent at TE. Fitz, Kraft, Musgrave, the guy before then that got hurt “X QB dude” have all been pretty good. Whyle spent time developing before Green Bay, I think that really helps him having multiple years in pro level.

 

[Schultz]

I know that people preach "draft the best player available", but if that player at #52 is a G, C, RB or S.....I would question Gute as to why he didn't trade back and pick up more picks. Obviously, sometimes there just isn't a good trade available and you have to make that pick. I also think that Gute will have 10 guys on his "would take at 52" list and if he doesn't trade, it will be one of them.

I hear what you are saying but I would find it extremely hard to pass on RB Price at 52.