2025 Roster - Semi Live Thread <closed>

[Magooch]

Well, that bites. In some ways I'm hoping it's just that they rushed him back earlier than was prudent (even though that would be ...less than desirable) and just decided to call it rather than him going out there and actually making things worse/setting back the clock a bit, but we will see...

 

[milani]

I'm curious if anyone's heard anything on Tom?
I was late getting home from church so missed the start. Was it a "flare up" or reaggravation of his injury - any indication something was made worse - or was it more like a..."I'm gonna give it a try and see if I can tough it out" and quickly decided it was a no-go?

It will be at least until after the bye. To get injured on the very first play on the field tells us that he was not tested properly and maybe he convinced the staff he was good to go.

 

[OldSchool101]

Positive reports coming out that they don’t feel he suffered a setback. I really feel like we can take Dallas without Tom. Rest him, we’ve turn hit a Bye week. That means he can heal up for 2 weeks and the 3rd week we can ease him back in LP, LP, FP

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Another site to not click on! I saw them use the same clickbait headline, but The Dolphins were the team signing Savage.

Savage signs with Comando's

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Early roster move, the Packers promoted Tackle Brant Banks from the Practice squad today.

The Green Bay Packers reportedly sign tackle Brant Banks off the practice squad

After dealing with injuries to the offensive line, the Packers are adding tackle Brant Banks to the active roster from the practice squad, per report.

www.packersnews.com

 

[Pkrjones]

In addition to signing Brant to the 53 GB also released Mecole Hardman from the PS and signed rookie UDFA WR Jakobie Keeney-James. He's a 5-11.5", 190 lb WR/KR witha a 9.58 RAS. 4.37 Forty, 40.5 Vertical, 6.88 3-cone, and 17 reps @225. Speed & quickness, hopefully decent hands to match?

Lion's 1st preseason game Jakobie dropped his only target, returned 3 kicks for 73 yards, then fumbled away another. A year on PS might be good for him to develop a bit.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In addition to signing Brant to the 53 GB also released Mecole Hardman from the PS and signed rookie UDFA WR Jakobie Keeney-James. He's a 5-11.5", 190 lb WR/KR witha a 9.58 RAS. 4.37 Forty, 40.5 Vertical, 6.88 3-cone, and 17 reps @225. Speed & quickness, hopefully decent hands to match?

Lion's 1st preseason game Jakobie dropped his only target, returned 3 kicks for 73 yards, then fumbled away another. A year on PS might be good for him to develop a bit.

After his poor performance in presean, I was kind of surprised when the Packers signed Hardman to the Practice Squad.

Ended up being a bit like the Devin Funchess signing.

 

[tynimiller]

After his poor performance in presean, I was kind of surprised when the Packers signed Hardman to the Practice Squad.

Ended up being a bit like the Devin Funchess signing.

I still think it is funny some thought he was legit gonna be one of our main receivers...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I still think it is funny some thought he was legit gonna be one of our main receivers...

I thought that he would do better than he did, but he hasn't been relative since his first 3 years in the league (2019-2021).

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Speaking of WR's, what is the plan for Savion Williams? 1 target, 1 catch, 1 yard.

 

[OldSchool101]

I still think it is funny some thought he was legit gonna be one of our main receivers...

Really? Who was that? I’d be curious
I thought I was a proponent of Hardman and maybe I missed these posters that thought he was our primary receiver. Imo I always thought (still think) he was a great PR/KR option that had lots of playoff experience (emergency spot duty) I was a big proponent of that in a Win Now. You can do worse for a WR6 (Teams) than Mecole. Truthfully I never understood why so many posters got so down on him (I suppose he had the one bad hop PS fumble they can hang on a singular play) Almost like they took it on a personal level and taking it to a point of total exaggeration.

Truthfully the only reason they released Mecole imo is because Savion showing flashes as a Returner. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. It was never about WR1 or WR4 for that matter.

 

[Magooch]

I don't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but I remember at the time seeing people saying WR wasn't a draft need because we'd added Funchess...and then again a couple of years later with Sammy Watkins...

 

[tynimiller]

Really? Who was that? I’d be curious
I thought I was a proponent of Hardman and maybe I missed these posters that thought he was our primary receiver. Imo I always thought (still think) he was a great PR/KR option that had lots of playoff experience (emergency spot duty) I was a big proponent of that in a Win Now. You can do worse for a WR6 (Teams) than Mecole. Truthfully I never understood why so many posters got so down on him (I suppose he had the one bad hop PS fumble they can hang on a singular play) Almost like they took it on a personal level and taking it to a point of total exaggeration.

Truthfully the only reason they released Mecole imo is because Savion showing flashes as a Returner. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. It was never about WR1 or WR4 for that matter.

I don’t believe many if any on this board specifically was to the level of thinking he’d see a ton of snaps but many here felt he would see offensive action and for sure lock at returning.

 

[Pkrjones]

I don’t believe many if any on this board specifically was to the level of thinking he’d see a ton of snaps but many here felt he would see offensive action and for sure lock at returning.

Does it really matter, now? Heath bet him out for the #6 spot, and his return-ability wasn't an upgrade to the players already on the 53. Let it go, let it go...

 

[tynimiller]

Does it really matter, now? Heath bet him out for the #6 spot, and his return-ability wasn't an upgrade to the players already on the 53. Let it go, let it go...

I was merely responding to a posed question.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but I remember at the time seeing people saying WR wasn't a draft need because we'd added Funchess...and then again a couple of years later with Sammy Watkins...

Thank you! I remembered Funchess, but knew that there was another castoff vet WR that we signed and he failed, that guy was Sammy Watkins. Much like Funchess and Hardman, just another Vet that the Packers signed ($4M 1 year deal), hoping that they might turn their career around in Green Bay and finally be the guy everyone was waiting for them to be.

I don't fault Gute for trying and while Hardman didn't cost very much for the Packers to basically give a tryout to, both Watkins and Funchess did. I guess in the NFL $4M can be viewed as low stakes for gambling on a WR?

 

[tynimiller]

Thank you! I remembered Funchess, but knew that there was another castoff vet WR that we signed and he failed, that guy was Sammy Watkins. Much like Funchess and Hardman, just another Vet that the Packers signed ($4M 1 year deal), hoping that they might turn their career around in Green Bay and finally be the guy everyone was waiting for them to be.

I don't fault Gute for trying and while Hardman didn't cost very much for the Packers to basically give a tryout to, both Watkins and Funchess did. I guess in the NFL $4M can be viewed as low stakes for gambling on a WR?

Hardman was way cheaper than $4M but I don’t believe any was guaranteed or if so very little

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hardman was way cheaper than $4M but I don’t believe any was guaranteed or if so very little

Thought I said that?

Hardman "only" cost the Packers $300K + whatever he made during his time on the Practice squad.

Watkins $4M contract became guaranteed once he made the 53.

Funchess's pay from the Packers is hard to follow, since it included him opting to skip the Covid season, time on IR, an agreed salary reduction and maybe an injury settlement. Needless to say, it wasn't money well spent.

I think the main theme with all 3 of these guys was: "A lot of potential, had been in the NFL for awhile, had earned enough money to retire on, were with several teams, never lived up to potential."

Who knows, maybe injuries, age, motivation, poor work ethics, bad fit, low football IQ's, etc. contributed to all 3 fizzling out. Of the 3, I would say Watkins had the most success in the NFL.

 

[AKCheese]

No no no! We must identify who was wrong how much righter “we” are

Does it really matter, now? Heath bet him out for the #6 spot, and his return-ability wasn't an upgrade to the players already on the 53. Let it go, let it go... …

 

[OldSchool101]

I don’t believe many if any on this board specifically was to the level of thinking he’d see a ton of snaps but many here felt he would see offensive action and for sure lock at returning.

As someone else said, he was doomed when we went out and drafted 2 WR’s and either can Return Kicks. I don’t think it was planned it was just the way the cards fell. His main pathway was PR no secret there. It wouldn’t shock me to see him find his way on a Roster though. I just think it was the wrong year to be a bottom level WR in GB. Bo was very fortunate he transitioned out of that room successfully.
What some people (not suggesting you) miss is guys often get pushed off a roster for a variety of reasons. The fit is a big one and here it got real crowded real fast. Age can be another one of combined with injury concerns. Some automatically think it’s that guys that don’t make the 53 are bad athletes. Then only to go on to have another good year somewhere else. I remember that with that Dallas LB we kicked to the curb. He was a good fit for the Giants and actually had a very respectable season post GB. Heck Oren Burks. Everyone laughed him off our team, he ended up starting in SF and played very respectful if I recall. Had nothing to do with him being a bad player that was just 1 example.

 

[Pkrjones]

...Heck Oren Burks. Everyone laughed him off our team, he ended up starting in SF and played very respectful if I recall. Had nothing to do with him being a bad player that was just 1 example.

Burks is starting for the Bengals, this year.

 

[OldSchool101]

Burks is starting for the Bengals, this year.

Exactly my point, just because a player doesn’t get signed or make our 53 doesn’t automatically imply they should be run out of the league as misfits.
Btw we get to say hello to Burks in 3 weeks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

With OT Brant Banks being promoted from the Practice Squad to the 53 man roster, the Packers had a PS spot open. They have brought back OL Lecitus Smith. If his names sounds familiar, it should. He has been on again off again with the Packers over the last 2 seasons.

Smith and rookie Dalton Cooper are the only offensive linemen on the practice squad.

 

[gopkrs]

With OT Brant Banks being promoted from the Practice Squad to the 53 man roster, the Packers had a PS spot open. They have brought back OL Lecitus Smith. If his names sounds familiar, it should. He has been on again off again with the Packers over the last 2 seasons.

Smith and rookie Dalton Cooper are the only offensive linemen on the practice squad.

I realize he must know the plays. But he must not be that good if can't even stay on the practice squad. Why not try someone else out there?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I realize he must know the plays. But he must not be that good if can't even stay on the practice squad. Why not try someone else out there?

Actually, I think you answered your own question, with your first statement.

I have to guess that there just aren't a lot of guys better than Smith out there for the Packers to sign. Even if there is one that is slightly better, the Packers are very familiar with Smith, but more importantly, Smith is very familiar with the Packers and the offensive playbook.