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2022 draft in greenbay?

Discussion in 'Green Bay Packers Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. longtimefan

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    Rumor going around that the nfl draft will be held in green bay 2022
     
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    I will take the week off.


    We deserve this. GB should say, we dont get the SB, so we should get this.
     
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    I like the idea of having the draft in team cities that would not be in consideration for a SB venue.
     
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    After this upcoming draft, the bar may be raised to new height$ that could be unreachable for other small or otherwise unsuitable venues, especially for a tiny market like Green Bay. It will be interesting to see how the 2020 NFL Draft impacts the NFL's choice of venues for the future.

    It is being projected that the attendance in Las Vegas, my home for the past 30 years, could be upwards of 200,000 and possibly as high as 300,000. No big deal for Las Vegas since it is built to accommodate that many visitors all at once. Las Vegas routinely handles 42 million visitors annually and has the 8th busiest airport in the USA.

    Las Vegas has 152,275 hotel rooms spread across a total of 355 hotels.
    Add the RV parks, Airbnb and similar rentals, plus routine daily commute shuttles from L.A. and other relatively nearby areas. Those can be arranged as they already are for large conventions and trade shows. This means Las Vegas has more hotel rooms than any other city in the United States, plus the capacity for many, many more on the periphery (by commute). There are more than 62,000 hotel rooms on the Las Vegas strip alone. That does not include downtown Las Vegas. Of the biggest hotels in the world, 15 of these are in Las Vegas. The hotels range from basic hotels to hotel/casino combinations. Some of these also have resort qualities with pools, entertainment outside of the casino complex, restaurants, and shopping. There is no need for the NFL to hire outside entertainment since it's already built-in to the tourist infrastructure. It is also worth mentioning that the April weather is usually fantastic.

    How will Green Bay handle enough visitors to be considered as a viable venue for hosting such an event?

    Don't get me wrong, Green Bay is a wonderful city in which to live and raise a family. I'm an ex-pat myself and it was my career that took me to a number of other places over several decades, not anything negative about WI. In many important ways, I would give the nod to Green Bay as one of the most liveable cities anywhere.

    But hosting an event for the NFL -- an institution that is powerfully driven at all its levels by higher profits and salaries -- is yet another matter. If Green Bay is ever chosen to host the NFL draft it would have to be because of sentiment rather than profit. That seems counterintuitive in today's NFL.

    Again, not a knock on Green Bay but just a reality check for what may actually be the deciding factors in choosing where the future drafts will be held. The only hope that Green Bay and other smaller NFL cities may have is that there are some agreements in place made behind the scenes that would put the draft in other than the usual large venues that would typically be chosen for hosting such events.

    Green Bay is a historic and quaint place to attend an NFL game, the best venue and atmosphere of any stadium that I have ever attended for an NFL game, bar none. That's pretty special as it is IMHO. But I doubt that would be the deciding factor for a non-game event that encourages heavy attendance.
     
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  5. Wi. Mike now in Florida

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    I'm all for having the draft in Green Bay if I knew that sleazebag Rodger Goodell would stay away.
     
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    I wonder if GB has the hotel space and a large enough venue to host an event such as this. What indoor facility could manage it? The Resch Center? The Weidner Center at UWGB isn't big enough. It would make more sense to have it in Milwaukee at the Fiserv Forum.
     
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    Here is a list of the world's largest hotels. Unfortunately, none of them are located in WI.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_hotels

    Even with 3,774 hotel rooms within 1 mile of the Milwaukee convention center location, that still falls far short of the number of rooms needed to host 200,000+ attendees. That's almost 60,000 less than Las Vegas offers on the Strip alone, where the draft festivities will be conducted.

    https://archive.jsonline.com/busine...-in-downtown-milwaukee-hq3m5ik-136879908.html

    The only realistic hope that any city in WI may have to host the NFL Draft would be if there is a backroom deal in place that may have conceded a rolling venue that is meant to appease the smaller market teams. It may not be that NFL interests are non-financially biased against places like Green Bay, Buffalo, and Kansas City, for example, to serve as hosts for an NFL draft. It's just that teams are so profit-driven and revenue-sharing oriented that they may want the revenue "pie" to be as big as possible so that their slice is also as big as possible. A game in Green Bay or Milwaukee would be a boon to their local economies but not to the 31 other teams that are likely to benefit from a larger purse. In 2020, Green Bay will also be one of them.

    That is not an indictment of WI as a venue or of being a cool place to live. But when it comes to generating enough hotel rooms, amenities, and the revenue they will help produce by attracting the most number of attendees, they simply cannot compete on the same level as some other venues. Don't' take it personal WI area Packer fans that for an event like this the area simply cannot compete on a level playing field. Hope instead that an agreement has been struck that will allow this to happen someday.
     
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    Due to the infrastructure needed to host that many people, I think the closest area that could host a draft would be Minneapolis. Las Vegas actually makes a lot of sense due to the sheer number of hotel rooms available, and the infrastructure already in place to host that many people. Contrary to popular opinion, Nashville is not a small city anymore. The metro area is approaching 2 million people. I think Nahsville is probably the baseline for a successful draft. We are more likely to see the draft go to LA and LV next. I am interested to see how well it goes in Cleveland.
     
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    Milwaukee is only 90 mins...lot of other towns in between
     
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    Exactly there are plenty of hotel rooms within the same driving distance as all the other major metro areas.
     
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    It is quicker to drive from Milwaukee to Green Bay than from One side of Las Vegas to the other. I have lived in both.


    Okay, I'm lying. But it is an hour across Vegas and an hour and a half from Green Bay to Milwaukee.

    Not that I think that matters much, you can walk from 100 hotels to the event in Vegas.
     
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    Hotels are way better option at other venues...

    But just a fast count there are over 20 hotels around sheyboygan..not to mention greenbay, North of gb..on Lake east..

    I'm.sure with in an hour drive, there are at least 30 hotels...maybe only 200 rooms Per hotel?
    that could fit 24000 if 4 to a room..

    Then add in one's south of sheyboygan and to milwaukee..can get another 30k k? Maybe

    It could be done..and if it's 2 years away possible more hotels get built.

    When PGA had their US open at whistling straights it was hard finding a room...and that was in a tiny town as well.
     
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    All I could think of as I read this thread is how Countries have bent over backwards to try and land the Olympics and if they do, venues are built specifically for hosting the Olympics. Once the Olympics is over, all these venues still exist, but basically go unused.

    Hate to sound like a party pooper, but if the City of Green Bay and its surrounding communities have to build more venues, infrastructure, etc. just to host the NFL draft once every 32 years, I would say pass, that is unless maybe they also will host the Olympics in the near future. :coffee:

    https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/10-olympic-games-bankrupted-host-countries.htm
     
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    You are exactly right...but it can help out during regular season going forward too..we all know how it is to get a room once schedule is up
     
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    I get that, but there is a big difference between hosting 80,000 people on a game day VS hosting 600,000 people on draft day.

    Even if the attendance numbers were similar, you are talking about a lot more visitors (including media) for a draft, that involves 32 teams, than you see for a typical Packer game, that involves 2 teams. Thus, more of those in attendance for a draft are going to need overnight accommodations, food, transportation, etc.

    BTW, not sure if anyone posted this yet, but the Packers would host the actual event inside of the newly to be built Brown County expo center.
     
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    Wonder why not Lambeau?
     
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    Lambeau is a great venue.... Brown County is not...
     
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    You're an NFL fan (not from Green Bay) who plans to attend the NFL Draft someday. You're going to burn a week's annual vacation to do so. Where will you go given a choice between NFL cities?

    Barring an unknown agreement between the NFL brass and the small market venues, this is how Green Bay stacks-up to the upcoming host of the NFL Draft:

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    Well there is that and then there is this....

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    Fillibuster?
     
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    Football fans? they'd gladly come to GB. Football fans have this on their bucket list for decades and make a trip specifically to GB and they're not even fans of the Packers. No kidding Vegas would be more "fun". The entire city exists for excess and entertainment. They'll exist with or without the NFL or the draft. They won't even notice if the NFL comes to town

    The GB has given the NFL a lot. GB and their fans have helped fill stadiums for those teams that don't have a prayer of seeing 30K a game if it weren't for Packer fans. Packer fans have been loyal and steadfast thru it all. The first images of the Packer sweep and Vince Lombardi etc have spawned more football fans than the city of Vegas could in the next 100 years. The team, the city, the fans all deserve to, and can host the NFL draft. They'd fill as many hotel rooms and get as many spectators as anywhere else, I have zero doubt of that at all. Football fans will flock here for the draft like they do every other time there's a draft and probably even more so. It IS a football destination for football fans. The NFL i'm sure recognizes that.
     
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    You are correct, 2 years in a row. They had big tents, but I guess they could do that in Green Bay too. Not like 50 degree weather is anything to a Football fan. Still that issue with housing.
     

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