Jess
Movement!
:icon_lol:Lol. 13 players on IR an it's the GM's fault?
I actually think it's a testament to how great Ted's been that we're not 3-8 right now, given all the injuries.
:icon_lol:Lol. 13 players on IR an it's the GM's fault?
Agreed, I have nothing wrong with TT, in fact I praise him for where we are right now with all of our injuries. If RB is the only position that we're really suffering at with this many injuries, then he's done something right. But yeah, our running game is not getting the job done.:icon_lol:
I actually think it's a testament to how great Ted's been that we're not 3-8 right now, given all the injuries.
Lol. 13 players on IR an it's the GM's fault?
And what about next year? What if he gets a big name FA, doesn't have the money to re-sign one of his own? Have you thought about that? Guess no.
If you're just interested in contending for this year, go take a look at what happened to the Vikings, and then you tell me if it's a good idea to plan for now...
That's great.Here's the thing to remember about our running game- We're not a running team.
I don't know how to make that any more clear.
We're not a running team.
Again, we're not a running team.
Say it with me: "We're not a running team."
Here's the thing to remember about our running game- We're not a running team.
I don't know how to make that any more clear.
We're not a running team.
Again, we're not a running team.
Say it with me: "We're not a running team."
Mike McCarthy isn't a run-first coach, and this isn't a run-first offense. As long as our running game can be semi-productive, we're golden.
I know we had a hard time running against Atlanta. I still believe that was more a product of a weak O-Line than it was a lack of talent in our backs, but whatever, we had a hard time running. I get it. Other than scheme better, there's nothing we can do about it at this point. And no, we don't need to waste draft picks for DeAngelo Williams or someone else's top feature back. It's pointless in this offense, as we're not a running team.
Question- If we won that game, would people still be whining about our running production? My guess is no.
Another question- How different would this game have been had we still had Finley and Grant?
BTW, our lack of running production isn't why we lost that game. I seem to recall a crucial fumble in the red zone that cost of points, along with a failure of special teams to make a stop playing crucial roles in our losing the to best team in the NFL.
To everyone who jumped right back on the Ted Thompson Band Wagon. I will admit he did a decent job with our Patch-Work defense and offense. BUT WE DONT HAVE A RUNNING GAME!
Teds inability to address our running game could ultimately cost the Packer Nation a great run in the playoffs if we make it. With alot of our plays being based off of play action pass, when teams know we don't have a running game we wont be fooling anyone but ourselves.
Brandon Jackson has had enough time to show us that he isnt the right running back for the packers much less any team in the NFL. Honestly Im not even sure Ryan Grant is the right man for the job. The packers need an agile back than can make plays even when the offensive line isint doing their job every time.
Thats my Rant! Thank You
I say we bench Jackson and put in Starks to start with, or even give Nance an opportunity.
The problem I see with TT is we will be in the same position next year. Ted with draft an untested NFL running back and not spend any money on a ready proven back. By the time we find a good running back the rest of the team will be old..
I also keep hearing everyone talk about Finley, "If we had Finley this and "If we had Finley that". Dont get me wrong I like Finley and he has definitely helped our team but when Jennings had his break away season, there was no talk about Finley. Then this year all we heard about was Finley, and Jennings numbers went way down because he didn't get as many opportunities because the ball was only going to Finley.
That's great.
New Orleans was an 8-8 team the year Brees threw for 5,000 yards. Then they bring in Pierre Thomas and Mike Bell who combine for 1300 rushing yards and they end up winning it all.
Pittsburgh had a strong running game in '08.
The Giants had a strong running game back in '07.
Indy had a 1000 yard rusher the year they won the Super Bowl.
The Pats had Corey Dillon running well when they won Super Bowls.
No team has won the Super Bowl recently and been this terrible at running the football.
Bullsh*t. We've had this debate ad-nauseum ever since Grant went down. Spare me the "Must have super deluxe high performance run game if we want to win" nonsense.
The 2008 Steelers were ranked 23 in rushing. That is NOT a great running game. Their Super Bowl opponents, the Cardinals, were #32.
2007- Giants were 4th in rushing. Patriots were 13.
2009- Saints were 6th. Colts = #32. BTW, in that super bowl win, NO's top rusher ran for 33 friggin yards. Indy's went for 77. NO's second leading rusher went for 25 yards rushing, for a total of 78 yards on the ground between the two. Yup, running the ball sure had an impact in their winning the Super Bowl!
Their run game didn't even play that big a role in the NFC Championship game. They did pick up a lot of yards in the divisional game, but that's what happens when you blow out an opponent.
It simply DOES NOT MATTER. You can go back and look at every Super Bowl champion for the past 10 years or so and you'll see that half the time they rank in the top half of the league in rushing and half the time they don't.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
The Saints ran for 239 yards in the two games they played on their way to the Super Bowl.Bullsh*t. We've had this debate ad-nauseum ever since Grant went down. Spare me the "Must have super deluxe high performance run game if we want to win" nonsense.
The 2008 Steelers were ranked 23 in rushing. That is NOT a great running game. Their Super Bowl opponents, the Cardinals, were #32.
2007- Giants were 4th in rushing. Patriots were 13.
2009- Saints were 6th. Colts = #32. BTW, in that super bowl win, NO's top rusher ran for 33 friggin yards. Indy's went for 77. NO's second leading rusher went for 25 yards rushing, for a total of 78 yards on the ground between the two. Yup, running the ball sure had an impact in their winning the Super Bowl!
Their run game didn't even play that big a role in the NFC Championship game. They did pick up a lot of yards in the divisional game, but that's what happens when you blow out an opponent.
It simply DOES NOT MATTER. You can go back and look at every Super Bowl champion for the past 10 years or so and you'll see that half the time they rank in the top half of the league in rushing and half the time they don't.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
Bullsh*t. We've had this debate ad-nauseum ever since Grant went down. Spare me the "Must have super deluxe high performance run game if we want to win" nonsense.
The 2008 Steelers were ranked 23 in rushing. That is NOT a great running game. Their Super Bowl opponents, the Cardinals, were #32.
2007- Giants were 4th in rushing. Patriots were 13.
2009- Saints were 6th. Colts = #32. BTW, in that super bowl win, NO's top rusher ran for 33 friggin yards. Indy's went for 77. NO's second leading rusher went for 25 yards rushing, for a total of 78 yards on the ground between the two. Yup, running the ball sure had an impact in their winning the Super Bowl!
Their run game didn't even play that big a role in the NFC Championship game. They did pick up a lot of yards in the divisional game, but that's what happens when you blow out an opponent.
It simply DOES NOT MATTER. You can go back and look at every Super Bowl champion for the past 10 years or so and you'll see that half the time they rank in the top half of the league in rushing and half the time they don't.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
Really? all the MADDEN experts say its how you do it?Sorry, this is just stupid. You don't start a guy who hasn't played a friggin game in two years. You just don't.
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Your right - I might have made this post if we have won, but it just further proves that we have a horrible running game. The games we lost by 3 points most likely would have had a different outcome if we had a good run game. Like I said, Ted has done a decent job in keeping this teams playoff hopes alive but I want to win now. Some of you may be different but I feel we have a pretty good team. I don't like the "well there is always next year" mind set, you live for today, not tomorrow, not next month, not next year. We need someone who will do whatever it takes to bring home a championship to title town and Ted just seems to be falling short of that.
And everyone can save the Vikings and Randy Moss replies. There is a reason Moss bounces from team to team. Because he is not a TEAM player.
Ok who did those teams pick up so late in the year and it worked?
Its worked to some degree for the Saints, Texans and 49ers, not outside the realm of possibility if you ask me that an experienced runningback could be more effective in this system than the current ones.
Really? all the MADDEN experts say its how you do it?
The Saints ran for 239 yards in the two games they played on their way to the Super Bowl.
The Steelers ran for 217 in their 2 games before the Super Bowl the year they won it. 165 in one game, sure, but it's one of maybe 2 exceptions to this rule, last year's Colts being the other.
The Cardinals ran for 333 yards in their 3 games before the Super Bowl that year.
The Giants ran for 324 in their 3 games before their Super Bowl.
The Pats ran for 294 in their 2 pre-Super Bowl games in '07. And 336 in 2 games the last time they won it.
The Colts ran for 413 yards in their 3 pre-Super Bowl games the year they won it.
The Bears ran for 316 in the 2 games they played pre-Super Bowl in '06.
The Seahawks had 309 yards in 2 games back when they got to the Bowl.
The Eagles ran for 265 in 2 games before the '04 Super Bowl.
If simply getting to the Playoffs is good enough for you, great. If you want to win and get to the Super Bowl, you almost always have to have a running game.
#4 Howard Green 3rd and 1? Drop your 340 lb Nose Tackle behind Rodgers. If he can't plow forward for a yard nobody can. I'm very serious here. Anyone remember the Bears game in 1985 when Coach Ditka gave the 325 lb rookie DT “The Refrigerator” William Perry the ball to score a 2 yard TD against us on Monday night?