yooperfan said:
cheesey said:
yooperfan said:
cheesey said:
pyledriver80 said:
all about da packers said:
Do resort to attempting to answer the question pyle.
I think cheesey makes a great point, Lombardi saw his run coming to an end and decided he had to move on too....
Yes, because he knew he was doomed. Perhaps TT should do the same. Thompson needs to realize he's incompetent and move on for the sake of the organization.
There is a Lombardi Trophy but not a Thompson Trophy. There are Lombardi's words and then there is that mumbled bunch of garbage Ted spits out of his blowhole.
Lombardi made no excuses, Lombardi is god
Uh......Lombardi left when he knew it was over. So he didn't HAVE to make an excuse. He cut and ran. The man was a GREAT coach, no doubt. But the times are different. His ways wouldn't work in todays NFL. When a player asked for more money, he traded them. So.........Barnett wouldn't be here, Favre wouldn't have been here for 16 years, Driver would have been traded, and I could go on.
You are not giving TT a chance to prove himself either way, period.
Heck......Lombardi didn't win right away either. Had you been there when they hired him, you would have been screaming for his firing.
WRONGO!
In Lombardis 1st season in 1959 the Packers went 7-5 after suffering a 1-10-1 season in "58".
They then followed that up with an 8-4 season and followed that with 11-3.
You call that not winning!!!!!
Quit pissing on Lombardis grave.
I meant he didn't win the championship his first couple years. I was JUST pointing out that he WAS after all, human. Just like us and TT and MM. Not perfect as some want to make him. He was the best coach of his time for certain. Plus, as i have said, the times are different. You could keep a team together for long runs, as there wasn't the free agents running off when you won the big one like there is now. Or the salary cap that might cause you to have to let good players go, becuase you can no longer afford them.
If he was alive today, i bet Lombardi would agree that the whole NFL is different, thus impossible to compare fairly the 1960's to today.
I was only trying to show to some people that times have changed, and the situation is completely different. It's comparing apples to oranges.
In Lombardis 2nd year as GM and head coach, the Packers won the Western Conference Championship. In his third year, 1961, The Pack won the NFL Championship.
I'm NOT argueing with you Yoop!
YES! Lombardi was GREAT! I AGREE with you!
Some people are acting though like he was GOD himself! Lombardi himself said "God first, family second, then the Green Bay Packers." He was a BRILLIANT man and coach.
Some people here though act like he won EVERY championship. That he NEVER lost. They are trying to hold today's team to standards that are, and were not attainable.
Like if you just quote Lombardi, that means they can win all the time. And thats NOT real or attainable. Not even for the greatest coach the Packers ever had! He MEANT you should set your goal to TRY to win all the time. I think TT is TRYING to do that, not destroy the Packers.
I have 100% respect and admiration for Vince Lombardi.
I think what I said has been misunderstood, or as soon as i said something that some THINK was a slap at the man (which it wasn't) they immediatly think i'm trying to "**** on his grave." NONE of that is true one bit!
There is no need to attack or hate me. I was ONLY trying to make the point that even the best coach we ever had could not win 100% of the time.Thats all i meant.