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Great Pick!
By me - have him in the contest.
By me - have him in the contest.
I'm headed for my first goose egg in your contest.Great Pick!
By me - have him in the contest.
Wick's RAS has him listed as a 4.61 40 time from the combine. Perhaps he ran faster at his pro day. I can see him lined up in the slot as the 4th WR in sets with empty backfields. He can come down with contested catches so in a way, he would run TE routes in those sets. I doubt he would line up on the outside very much.
Wick's RAS has him listed as a 4.61 40 time from the combine. Perhaps he ran faster at his pro day. I can see him lined up in the slot as the 4th WR in sets with empty backfields. He can come down with contested catches so in a way, he would run TE routes in those sets. I doubt he would line up on the outside very much.
Then Wicks has some learning to do. With his limited athleticism, he can probably get open underneath vs lb's and safeties but would have a much more difficult time beating NFL #1 and #2 cb's. I see him more of a potntial replacement for Larard than an outside guy. While Lazard would sometimes line up outside, a lot of his biggest catches for first downs came on shorter routes towards the middle of the field.Wicks hardly lined up in the slot in college as he was used as an outside receiver on 86.2% of his pass snaps.
Then Wicks has some learning to do. With his limited athleticism, he can probably get open underneath vs lb's and safeties but would have a much more difficult time beating NFL #1 and #2 cb's. I see him more of a potntial replacement for Larard than an outside guy. While Lazard would sometimes line up outside, a lot of his biggest catches for first downs came on shorter routes towards the middle of the field.
Then Wicks has some learning to do. With his limited athleticism, he can probably get open underneath vs lb's and safeties but would have a much more difficult time beating NFL #1 and #2 cb's. I see him more of a potntial replacement for Larard than an outside guy. While Lazard would sometimes line up outside, a lot of his biggest catches for first downs came on shorter routes towards the middle of the field.
It is interesting that Wicks scored a 9.17 RAS according to several sites. I saw his WR RAS card from Steelerdepot that was in the 6’s along with Addison.Wicks actually has a RAS score of 9.17. While he didn't put up an impressive 40-yard dash he's athletic enough to get open as an outside receiver. It remains to be seen if he's good enough at running routes to gain separation and catch the ball when he's targeted though.
It is interesting that Wicks scored a 9.17 RAS according to several sites. I saw his WR RAS card from Steelerdepot that was in the 6’s along with Addison.
Wicks scored below 9.17 seven of nine categories
Height 6.86
Weight 7.49
Vertical 9.26
Broad 9.60
40time 3.80
20 yard 6.45
10 yard 8.34
Shuttle 7.36
3-Cone 7.31
Does that sound odd that he’s a 9.17? How does a guys RAS score so high when it’s comprised of 75% scores well under 9. Does Broad jump count at 600%
The drop in production. And the slower 40 time hurt his stock. He sure looks faster when he plays than his timed 40. Had he replicated his sophomore year last year, he would have probably been 2nd round. As it was, some sites had him going in the 3rd. It's all about the work now that he is willing to put in, he has the physical gifts.Finally got a chance to watch some film on Wicks. Really excited about this guy and even a bit surprised that he lasted as long as he did in the draft. His route running is more advanced than I am used to seeing from a 5th round pick. He had a phenomenal 2021 season (ranking fifth in the FBS with 21.1 yards per catch), but in 2022 they had the campus shooting where he lost 3 teammates, he was injured and missed 2 games and the whole team was kind of a mess. Seriously think that he could push Doubs for a starting spot.
I personally am going to puke if we see a lot of 4 WR sets this year. I'd be thrilled if we didn't see it once the entire year.Wick's RAS has him listed as a 4.61 40 time from the combine. Perhaps he ran faster at his pro day. I can see him lined up in the slot as the 4th WR in sets with empty backfields. He can come down with contested catches so in a way, he would run TE routes in those sets. I doubt he would line up on the outside very much.
Wick's RAS has him listed as a 4.61 40 time from the combine. Perhaps he ran faster at his pro day. I can see him lined up in the slot as the 4th WR in sets with empty backfields. He can come down with contested catches so in a way, he would run TE routes in those sets. I doubt he would line up on the outside very much.
Good stuffThat is literally .05 slower than Davante. Long speed helps separate after twenty yards and allows depth of targets to be greater (MVS)....however guys with massively quick ten yard splits and first steps will still out perform inside or outside over guys that are just burners.
3-Cone is a massive indicator and there Adams has Wicks some as his time was 6.82 while Wicks was 6.91.......conversely Wicks has Adams at 10 yard split 1.55 to 1.64 a near tenth of a second fully better than Adams...twenty yard split Wicks is 2.63 vs Adams at 2.68....Adams holds his speed better than Wicks or did in testing however and beat him overall at 40 yards.
Another massively successful guy that "testing" wise Wicks is on par or better than is Hopkins:
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Now neither of these illustrations are to say Wicks is either or will be as good as either...it merely however illustrates just by his testing conclusions about where he can or cannot line up I don't feel can be made.
His film shows separation ability, above average route running and high pointing abilities...how much of that can he do at the next level is the question.
With drafting two TEs early and having 1 or 2 more; I can't see a need for it. I'll certainly be thinking of you if they happen to run a couple of those plays in a row though.I personally am going to puke if we see a lot of 4 WR sets this year. I'd be thrilled if we didn't see it once the entire year.
I also read that Jayden Reed is turning a lot of heads and impressing everyone.Good stuff
I was just listening to Mike and Wes (Packers.com). They were saying it’s obviously early, but last year the guy with the “fast start” was Doubs. So far this year it’s Wicks. He’s apparently catching everything thrown his way and getting a disproportionate number of targets because of it. I think Wicks is going to be a 5th Round Steal. Starter inside 2 seasons. He’s going against good Pro Corners and LB’s and looking stout, I don’t think pads will change that.
Thanks for the RAS post, I didn’t realize his explosion grades were that good.
Well said. I expect growth from everyone in the receiving room. I have no clue where any of those guys will be in 2 years, but I would say they all have more potential than the rest of the 2022 "group" that was still on the roster last August. Those being Cobb, Watkins, Amari Rodgers, Malik Taylor, Danny Davis, Winfree, Lazard, Tonyan, Lewis, Dafney. Probably missed a few, but I think you get the picture, since none of those players are on the current roster.I think anyone watching college tape on our draftees, and the film our second year guys put together in their snaps last year know without a doubt there is a ton of potential and promise throughout the WR/TE rooms...the issue is how close are they all to tapping into their ceilings? I don't doubt at all personally that a bonafide WR1 exists in our room...complimentary WR2 and WR3 types also....I don't doubt that for a second personally. My only doubt is whether that comes to fruition fully in 2023 or are we still a year or two out.
Musgrave's athleticism is bananas, unlike any TE I think personally GB has had during my lifetime (37 years) - Kraft may be top 4 in the same time frame IMO....doesn't mean either or both will be successful but dear lord there is a TON to be excited for in the next couple years from our TE and WR room.
A point someone made that resonated just after the draft (Larry Mcarren?) was in reference to the concept of hitting on multiple players at 1 position. In effect greatly increasing your odds that 1 will stick hard.I think anyone watching college tape on our draftees, and the film our second year guys put together in their snaps last year know without a doubt there is a ton of potential and promise throughout the WR/TE rooms...the issue is how close are they all to tapping into their ceilings? I don't doubt at all personally that a bonafide WR1 exists in our room...complimentary WR2 and WR3 types also....I don't doubt that for a second personally. My only doubt is whether that comes to fruition fully in 2023 or are we still a year or two out.
Musgrave's athleticism is bananas, unlike any TE I think personally GB has had during my lifetime (37 years) - Kraft may be top 4 in the same time frame IMO....doesn't mean either or both will be successful but dear lord there is a TON to be excited for in the next couple years from our TE and WR room.