With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[RepStar15]

No... I mean about 2 weeks ago I heard they are trying to move up ..

Not sure if they had a taker, of they agreed or of they gave up

Trade up? Only player I could possibly see them trade up for is Denzel Ward

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No... I mean about 2 weeks ago I heard they are trying to move up ..

Not sure if they had a taker, of they agreed or of they gave up

Depending on how the board starts falling, that might be the best option for the Packers and might be a draft day decision. But, if the price is too steep and enough of their tier 1 guys are falling, I assume they stay pat. That all goes out the window if they have 1 guy that they absolutely love above all the rest and feel that the only way to get him is by moving up at a reasonable price.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

We better not waste draft picks moving up... if anything, we should move down and pick up an extra day two pick (or two)

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We better not waste draft picks moving up... if anything, we should move down and pick up an extra day two pick (or two)

With 12 picks, I am not too worried about losing a few in order to move up along the way. No way do I want 12 drafted rookies + UDFA's. I would be fine with using those late 4th, 5th and 6th round picks to move other picks up.

But I agree with you on trying to pick up another pick in the 2nd and/or 3rd round or get our current picks moved up. I love the 4th round pick, the first one of day 3. I think that has a lot of value due to the fact that Gute and Co. will have a lot of time to study the board before that pick has to be made.

 

[Dantés]

What if Packers get top 10 pick?

Then I’m guessing Denzel Ward is a Packer.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

With 12 picks, I am not too worried about losing a few in order to move up along the way. No way do I want 12 drafted rookies + UDFA's. I would be fine with using those late 4th, 5th and 6th round picks to move other picks up.

But I agree with you on trying to pick up another pick in the 2nd and/or 3rd round or get our current picks moved up. I love the 4th round pick, the first one of day 3. I think that has a lot of value due to the fact that Gute and Co. will have a lot of time to study the board before that pick has to be made.

Agreed on 1St pick 4th rd. With the whole day to think on it. The pick has great trade value...
I agree that 12 picks kept would be too many... but the odds of finding the Donald driver in the 7th, get better with more 7th Round picks.

So you trade every pick we have down a few clicks, picking up an extra pick later on in the draft...theoretically....now we have 24 picks, again theoretically.... the odds of finding that diamond in the rough doubles. Imo, so what if we have to release 15 of them for a total loss, or practice squad sleeper. As long as the 9 we do keep ,have proven to be the best of the group.
Right?

Obviously if we like a player on our pick, we take him. But rarely if ever, would I like a player enough to trade up ,spending high picks to do so....

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Then I’m guessing Denzel Ward is a Packer.

None of the top CBs looked good enough to trade up for, to me....
Honestly, the only one who gets my excited enough would be Barkley... a rb like him, would open up this offense exponentially...

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Trade up? Only player I could possibly see them trade up for is Denzel Ward

Ward is tooooooo small... no way.

 

[ExpatPacker]

None of the top CBs looked good enough to trade up for, to me....
Honestly, the only one who gets my excited enough would be Barkley... a rb like him, would open up this offense exponentially...

If the Packers somehow landed Saquan Barkley I would turn into a gurgling idiot because either a) the Packers gave away the farm to move up that high to get him, or b) they didn't, which would mean that the other teams picking in front of the Packers are a bunch of absolute idiots.

 

[Dantés]

None of the top CBs looked good enough to trade up for, to me....
Honestly, the only one who gets my excited enough would be Barkley... a rb like him, would open up this offense exponentially...

If they traded up and took a running back, I’d break something.

Ward’s size plays in the league and he’s the best corner in this draft by a good margin. He’s exactly the type of guy that has had huge success under Pettine.

 

[Mondio]

Ward is tooooooo small... no way.

DB's aren't supposed to be 6'2" 348lbs

 

[Dantés]

Ward’s weight is on the lower end, but it’s still within the range of a normal NFL corner prospect. He’s actually a lot tougher and more physical than the bigger Josh Jackson.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

... but the odds of finding the Donald driver in the 7th, get better with more 7th Round picks.

So you trade every pick we have down a few clicks, picking up an extra pick later on in the draft...theoretically....now we have 24 picks, again theoretically.... the odds of finding that diamond in the rough doubles. Imo, so what if we have to release 15 of them for a total loss, or practice squad sleeper. As long as the 9 we do keep ,have proven to be the best of the group.
Right?

I think Driver is the exception and not the rule. If you look back at the history of the NFL draft, the number of 7th rounders who did anything is probably extremely low.
While it is not a bad thing to have those late picks to secure what really amount to priority UDFA's, I would gladly trade 3 out of 4 of our 6th/7th round picks for 1-2 4/5th rounders and save one 7th rounder for a guy we have high on our list to sign as an UDFA.

 

[Poppa San]

save one 7th rounder for a guy we have high on our list to sign as an UDFA.

Kicker. I think Mason will have to beat out a drafted rookie. $2m cap space is $2m towards a vet edge or Jahri Evans.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Kicker. I think Mason will have to beat out a drafted rookie. $2m cap space is $2m towards a vet edge or Jahri Evans.

A few of us had this debate last year. I'm fine with Mason having to win his job out, but not so sure a rookie will beat him out. Crosby's 4 year deal still has a dead cap hit of $4.125 M, so I am not so sure if the Packers would even cut ties with him this year, but maybe next year.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is a pretty decent summary of how I am feeling right now about the Packers position in the draft. Sitting on the fence of possibly being able to draft an elite player, depending on how things fall or having early access to a pretty large group of "second tier" guys.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/20...o-trade-up-to-get-elite-player-in-2018-draft/

 

[Dantés]

This is a pretty decent summary of how I am feeling right now about the Packers position in the draft. Sitting on the fence of possibly being able to draft an elite player, depending on how things fall or having early access to a pretty large group of "second tier" guys.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/20...o-trade-up-to-get-elite-player-in-2018-draft/

If one defines Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, Smith, Edmunds, Ward, Fitzpatrick, and James to be the "elite" prospects of this class, I have a pretty good feeling that one will be there for the Packers at #14. You add Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, and Allen to those guys and you're up to 12. I have a hard time believing that someone won't take Landry high given his talent, position, and the weakness of this pass rusher class. At that point, you just need one more guy to go. The consistent chatter I've heard is that someone will take a tackle high, but there could also be an interior DL (Vea, Hurst) or a second true corner (Jackson) or another QB.

 

[Dantés]

A few of us had this debate last year. I'm fine with Mason having to win his job out, but not so sure a rookie will beat him out. Crosby's 4 year deal still has a dead cap hit of $4.125 M, so I am not so sure if the Packers would even cut ties with him this year, but maybe next year.

I think going a long time with a good kicker can make fans forget how much it sucks to lose games over such a small thing. Ask Chargers, Bucs, or Cardinals fans if they'd cut a reliable kicker for 2m.

 

[Dantés]

Rumors in April are hit and miss, but the more I've thought about the most recent Pauline report on the Packers the more it makes sense to me. It seems pretty likely the way the board has shaped up that Green Bay will either land a corner at #14 or have to wait until at least #76. It's not impossible that Alexander, Hughes, or Oliver drops to #45, but quite unlikely. And if the FO is serious about finding immediate DB help in the draft, they can't bank on unrealistic optimism.

Plans change based on how the board breaks, but my guess is that the Packers' initial plan is to go DB and then WR or EDGE depending on how the board breaks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If one defines Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, Smith, Edmunds, Ward, Fitzpatrick, and James to be the "elite" prospects of this class, I have a pretty good feeling that one will be there for the Packers at #14. You add Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, and Allen to those guys and you're up to 12. I have a hard time believing that someone won't take Landry high given his talent, position, and the weakness of this pass rusher class. At that point, you just need one more guy to go. The consistent chatter I've heard is that someone will take a tackle high, but there could also be an interior DL (Vea, Hurst) or a second true corner (Jackson) or another QB.

I'm actually warming up to the idea of Ward being available and our pick. A month ago I was done with picking CB's high in the draft, but with Free Agency only netting us Williams and House so far, I would be fine with Ward. If King stays healthy, those two could finally anchor the second in the near future. I think you are right that Vea, Hurst or even LVE could be a surprise earlier pick and rocket Ward up to us or maybe even Smith. Smith is still my preferred pick at this point.

I'm still keeping that phone line open to BB in New England though, just in case a QB he wants is there at #14 and the Packers are only looking at a large group of "2nd tier talent".

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's not impossible that Alexander, Hughes, or Oliver drops to #45, but quite unlikely.

When I constructed my Amish Mock draft 3+ weeks ago, I had all 3 of those guys in my second round. I have since taken Alexander and Hughes off and am about to take Oliver off as well. Seems all 3 of their stocks is on the rise. I agree with you that it isn't likely any of them will be there at #45 and the only way we get one of them is if we trade back with #14 or trade up with other picks into the 30-36 pick range. I have seen people mock the Packers taking Hughes at #14, that would be a disappointment to me.

 

[Dantés]

When I constructed my Amish Mock draft 3+ weeks ago, I had all 3 of those guys in my second round. I have since taken Alexander and Hughes off and am about to take Oliver off as well. Seems all 3 of their stocks is on the rise. I agree with you that it isn't likely any of them will be there at #45 and the only way we get one of them is if we trade back with #14 or trade up with other picks into the 30-36 pick range. I have seen people mock the Packers taking Hughes at #14, that would be a disappointment to me.

I mean, Hughes is a really good prospect. He's better than Jackson at a lot of things. But there are bound to be better prospect there at #14, in my opinion. I'm wondering if that pick in mocks is just based on them being linked in meetings and what not.

Corner is just such a premium position and you need three starters. It's wishful thinking to imagine really good prospects sliding for anything other than character or medical stuff. I also had Alexander and Hughes in my cluster of targets at #45, but I always kind of felt like it was a pipe dream.

 

[GleefulGary]

My issue with taking any RB in the top 10 (I would even go so far as to argue first round in some occasions) is the cost associated. Taking a guy like Barkley in the top 10 means that by his 5th year, if he's actually good, he's going to be costing you $10-12 million per year...which is an exorbitant amount to pay a RB.

RB's are value wise, really, really cheap. Why? They're easily replaceable, they get injured far more frequently than any other position, and they're just not that important.

You simply do not need an elite RB to win football games. Sure, it helps, but the cost associated isn't worth it. Zeke Elliot is a great RB, but Dallas would've been far better off taking Jaley Ramsay. Is Barkley really that much better than Guice, Michel? I don't think so...not at the opportunity cost. Leonard Fournette, is currently the 5th highest average salary for a RB and he's on his rookie contract. He most likely will be bumped down by Barkley, but it just depends on where Barkley goes. That's a crazy amount of money to pay for a position that just isn't worth it.

Really, when it comes to money, your three weakest positions are RB, ILB, and S. The draft should reflect that as well. You don't want to overdraft those positions, but especially with RB. Don't waste money on RB's.

 

[thisisnate]

my only contribution is to say
why they gotta put round 1 on a thursday evening???
maybe they always have, i guess it just never clashed for me until this year
but i feel like friday would be much better for viewers and for the league

 

[brandon2348]

Then I’m guessing Denzel Ward is a Packer.

Trading up for a nickel corner would be such a bonehead move that I would question the people making the calls.

Please!