With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[Dantés]

Toss in Ahmad Carroll (Sherman pick) and second rounders Rollins, Pat Lee and Fred Vinson and you have exactly why I am nervous as well when I hear talk of the Packer spending yet another high pick on a CB. This is one position I would rather see the Packers get a proven player through Free Agency, but that boat seems to have sailed once again.

Edit: Just saw that Vinson netted us Ahman Green and a 5th round pick when traded to Seattle, so strike his name. ...although he did end up having an injury filled crappy career.

Putting aside people's feelings about him, Landry does feel like a natural pick if he's there. He surely passes whatever athletic thresholds they may have at that position, he's at a position that the organization has demonstrated they value at a round 1 level, and they like to draft a year ahead with expiring contracts in mind. If he's there and he isn't the pick, I'd be kind of surprised.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I have to disagree. They may be set at Left OT but not on the Right side. The ND prospect is ready to play the Right side and if we have problems on pass pro; we will not go far in the playoffs. It would be a pick for the future in a nuts and bolts position. I do believe we will get a good pick at 14 but I would not be unhappy to fortify the line. I don't have confidence for Spriggs handling an upper echelon pass rusher and he may be better at guard anyway. It sounds like a safe and worthy pick to me. The absolute worst thing would be to pick a pass rusher who does not pan out.

The Packers should select a potential replacement for Bulaga this year but I would prefer Gutekunst to address that position later in the draft.

Toss in Ahmad Carroll (Sherman pick) and second rounders Rollins, Pat Lee and Fred Vinson and you have exactly why I am nervous as well when I hear talk of the Packer spending yet another high pick on a CB. This is one position I would rather see the Packers get a proven player through Free Agency, but that boat seems to have sailed once again.

There are still decent options available in Breeland, Rodgers-Cromartie and Breaux just to name a few.

 

[Dantés]

The Packers should select a potential replacement for Bulaga this year but I would prefer Gutekunst to address that position later in the draft.



There are still decent options available in Breeland, Rodgers-Cromartie and Breaux just to name a few.

Two of which the Packers have been linked to. I would almost be surprised if neither ended up here. It would seem that they're waiting for their health issues to resolve.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There are still decent options available in Breeland, Rodgers-Cromartie and Breaux just to name a few.

Yup and as the list grows smaller, it doesn't seem like the Packers are in any hurry to sign any of them. One has to wonder if they are waiting until after the draft, to determine their free agent needs. If they do end up selecting a CB with one of their first 2 picks and sign nobody else, there will be quite a bit of pressure on a rookie to step right in and produce.

 

[Dantés]

Yup and as the list grows smaller, it doesn't seem like the Packers are in any hurry to sign any of them. One has to wonder if they are waiting until after the draft, to determine their free agent needs. If they do end up selecting a CB with one of their first 2 picks and sign nobody else, there will be quite a bit of pressure on a rookie to step right in and produce.

In Breeland's case, they are probably waiting for his foot issue to resolve.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

One has to wonder if they are waiting until after the draft, to determine their free agent needs.

It seems like that's the case.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It seems like that's the case.

Which considering the (my perceived) needs at CB, OLB, WR and OL, it better be one hell of a draft!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Which considering the (my perceived) needs at CB, OLB, WR and OL, it better be one hell of a draft!

The Packers definitely need to add some impact players in this year's draft. I don't expect Gutekunst to be done acquiring veterans either via free agency or trades though.

 

[elcid]

I agree with most of the posts above. Getting an edge guy in Landry seems like the most natural thing to do. However considering the state of our CB situation I'd still feel like drafting a top CB is the need. Really hope that either James or Fitzpatrick drops, but I still deem it highly unlikely. I don't like the idea of trading up a few spots and spending some of the higher late round picks that we have while having so many holes. Especially since trading up will mean that it will probably be for either one of those guys and they are not even the type of DB we really need. Or for Ward, yet some argue that he is not the most talented CB in this draft.

The other premier CB's after Ward (Jackson, Hughes, Alexander) are often mocked to go between the 20th and 30th pick. These guys (and Oliver) to me have all similar amounts of potential. I might actually ache more to Hughes/Alexander/Oliver, and at least 1, if not 2 will still be available at the bottom end of the first round. As of yet I'd really like the Pack to trade back about 10 spots and amass some draft capital. A great CB is still going to be on the board (Hell, Landry might still be there - at 23 he is probably gone though) and we just got an extra extra weapon for Rodgers in the second.

If we are staying put, taking into account the players that are realistically going to be there, the pick has to be Landry or Jackson. I'd really wish that the Packers signed Breeland though. I'd feel so much more confident going into the draft and announcing that Harold Landry will become a citizen of Green Bay, knowing that a good CB prospect is still to be had for our second pick and plenty of serviceable ones for our later picks.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

There is no doubt the Packers will have to use a top pick and maybe a few others on the CB position alone, just for 2019 and beyond. I don't think it's safe to assume with 100% confidence that King, especially with his shoulder, will be a fixture at CB for the next 3 years and Williams is 35. So even if the Packers aren't looking for an immediate starter in the draft, for almost the 4th consecutive draft, they need to look for starters for the very near future.

 

[gopkrs]

The Packers should select a potential replacement for Bulaga this year but I would prefer Gutekunst to address that position later in the draft.

Wishful thinking for Bulaga to make it through the season. Would like someone to be able to play now. But I am pretty sure I will be happy with whoever they pick. Looking forward to the draft.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

As of yet I'd really like the Pack to trade back about 10 spots and amass some draft capital.

The Packers already have 12 picks in this year's draft. They don't need to add more draft capital but select players being able to have an immediate impact.

Wishful thinking for Bulaga to make it through the season. Would like someone to be able to play now.

It's definitely possible to draft a right tackle capable of starting this season after the first round though.

 

[elcid]

The Packers already have 12 picks in this year's draft. They don't need to add more draft capital but select players being able to have an immediate impact.

Yes, but it seems that this is where we disagree. I am not at all proposing increasing our amount of picks. But trading down imo results in being able to pick more immediate impact players. It is not as if at 14 it is the only time that there are still impact players available. Plenty will still be in the bottom half of the first round, especially in the CB department. By trading back we just increase the amount of amount of impact players we can take.

I really find it more and more likely that we might pull off a trade with NE, NO, or PIT. We are picking right after 3 teams that might take a QB (Tannehill might no longer be trusted in Miami, the Redskins might want to take a QB next to Smith, yet this seems unlikely. And the Bills will probably move up further, so this is the wild card) and right before 3 teams that are getting more desperate at QB. Cardinals are in a dire situation. Ravens might give up on Flacco and the Chargers might prepare for the departure of Rivers in a way that the Cardinals never did. There are rumours that BB really likes Lamarr Jackson and imo we are in prime position to trade with them, considering that they will know that if Jackson is still on the board, chances are that he will not be anymore after the Cardinals, Ravens and Chargers have picked.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I am not at all proposing increasing our amount of picks. But trading down imo results in being able to pick more immediate impact players. By trading back we just increase the amount of amount of impact players we can take.

That's not true at all. By trading back the Packers would increase the amount of picks but the chances of selecting an immediate impact player would decline.

 

[elcid]

That's not true at all. By trading back the Packers would increase the amount of picks but the chances of selecting an immediate impact player would decline.

Sure, the later you pick, the slimmer it gets that you are actually picking an impact player, or "hitting" on the pick. However, I'd consider the top 50 players to be players that have roughly similar "hit" rates. In theory, these players all have the potential to become sure fire NFL starters to NFL stars, and then I'd rather step an extra time to the plate within the top 50 than get a player at 15 which has a strong chance that they still be there 5 to 10 picks later (looking at Landry and Jackson) considering that we need impact players on multiple positions (EDGE, CB, WR, OL come to my mind first).

 

[thequick12]

I agree with most of the posts above. Getting an edge guy in Landry seems like the most natural thing to do. However considering the state of our CB situation I'd still feel like drafting a top CB is the need. Really hope that either James or Fitzpatrick drops, but I still deem it highly unlikely. I don't like the idea of trading up a few spots and spending some of the higher late round picks that we have while having so many holes. Especially since trading up will mean that it will probably be for either one of those guys and they are not even the type of DB we really need. Or for Ward, yet some argue that he is not the most talented CB in this draft.

The other premier CB's after Ward (Jackson, Hughes, Alexander) are often mocked to go between the 20th and 30th pick. These guys (and Oliver) to me have all similar amounts of potential. I might actually ache more to Hughes/Alexander/Oliver, and at least 1, if not 2 will still be available at the bottom end of the first round. As of yet I'd really like the Pack to trade back about 10 spots and amass some draft capital. A great CB is still going to be on the board (Hell, Landry might still be there - at 23 he is probably gone though) and we just got an extra extra weapon for Rodgers in the second.

If we are staying put, taking into account the players that are realistically going to be there, the pick has to be Landry or Jackson. I'd really wish that the Packers signed Breeland though. I'd feel so much more confident going into the draft and announcing that Harold Landry will become a citizen of Green Bay, knowing that a good CB prospect is still to be had for our second pick and plenty of serviceable ones for our later picks.

Read an article yesterday that stated both Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James are not seen as top 10 players by most teams and they are both likely to come off the board between picks 11-20. If that's the case id go with Fitzpatrick I think he's more of the nick collins type playmaker at free safety this team has lacked since Collins was forced to retire. He had 9 ints while at Alabama and returned 4 for touchdowns

 

[Dantés]

Read an article yesterday that stated both Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James are not seen as top 10 players by most teams and they are both likely to come off the board between picks 11-20. If that's the case id go with Fitzpatrick I think he's more of the nick collins type playmaker at free safety this team has lacked since Collins was forced to retire. He had 9 ints while at Alabama and returned 4 for touchdowns

In 2017, Fitzpatrick did his best work playing slot corner in the style of Tyrann Mathieu.

 

[elcid]

In 2017, Fitzpatrick did his best work playing slot corner in the style of Tyrann Mathieu.

He probably is a better FS than HCD too. If one is still on the board, I would be euphoric. If both James and Fitzpatrick are on the board, I'd probably be so ecstatic I would not know which to choose in time if I were to make the pick.

If the Packers have truly enough faith in Brice and in Jones to become this hybrid DB that we know James can be, they'll probably go with Fitzpatrick considering we do not have any quality FS depth.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm loving all this news that Lamar Jackson is moving steadily up draft boards! Sounds like both Buffalo and New England like him. Now if Mason Rudolph moves up some more, that could mean 6 QB's being taken off the board before the Packers pick at #14! Which would leave some really decent talent to pick from.

I still see a scenario where either Jackson or Rudolph is sitting there when the Packers are on the clock and 3 teams behind us (Arizona #15, Ravens #16, Patriots #23) want one of them so bad, they are willing to overpay for him. That way we can slide back, pick up more draft stock and still get the guy we want in the first round. Ideally, that trade happens with Arizona and we pick right after they select their QB.

 

[thequick12]

In 2017, Fitzpatrick did his best work playing slot corner in the style of Tyrann Mathieu.

I get that you're saying he played a similar role to Mathieu but Fitzpatrick has much better size and speed at 6-1 and over 200 pounds in my opinion he compares more to Morgan burnett. But either way yeah he's super versitle. He can play slot corner in 2018 and then move to free safety in 2019 after Clinton Dix departs. I think just like in 2009 when Raji and Matthews got drafted the Packers will want to give pettine a couple guys high that really fit his scheme to a T. I think Fitzpatrick is one of those guys. He's already got one in Wilkerson in free agency.

 

[GleefulGary]

The Packers already have 12 picks in this year's draft. They don't need to add more draft capital but select players being able to have an immediate impact.



It's definitely possible to draft a right tackle capable of starting this season after the first round though.

Out of curiosity, which OT's would you take after the 1st and where?

 

[thequick12]

Out of curiosity, which OT's would you take after the 1st and where?

Kolton Miller could fall to 2nd. I think martainis rankin will go in the 2nd. Austin Corbett is more of a guard probably but I think he could play tackle he'll go in the 2nd.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Ridley is gonna be 24 this year so not sure he is the best candidate to develop. Im pretty sure with what you see is what your gonna get.

I think that's a legit concern.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Never know what you are going to end up with in the draft and the years following. Maybe my memory is wrong, but I thought I remember seeing postings on "we should have picked Reuben Foster last year and we would be set at ILB:, well.....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...tic-violence-charged-felony-niners/510763002/

 

[Dantés]

Never know what you are going to end up with in the draft and the years following. Maybe my memory is wrong, but I thought I remember seeing postings on "we should have picked Reuben Foster last year and we would be set at ILB:, well.....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...tic-violence-charged-felony-niners/510763002/

Basically every time a player falls due to off-field/character concerns, there is a segment of every fan base that imagines that there's no extra risk and their team is dumb if they pass on them. And yet most of the time, these guys bust. And even the success stories, a la Vontaze Burfict, often come with more headaches than anyone wants to deal with.