With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[ThePerfectBeard]

Its a terrible comp. There not the same body type or height. Still Brown got drafted in the 7th round for a reason and if anything it shows thats where Ridley should be drafted based on talent. For every Antonio Brown there are literally hundreds with similar athletic trait that did not make a roster for a reason. Its just a horrible to even discuss this guy as a first round talent.

Im done with Ridley talk. Im gonna take the high road yet again in regards Calvin "Can't Jump" Ridley.

You can't be... we were done with the Sutton talk 500 pages ago, but yet here you are. Like I said, I'm not a Ridley fan, but as long as you shove Sutton down our throat, I'm going to push Ridley down yours.

 

[elcid]

Here is my updated decision matrix for our 1st pick:

1. Bradely Chubb (flipped with Barkley)
2. Saquon Barkley
3. Tremain Edmunds
4. Derwin James
5. Quenton Nelson
6. Minkah Fitzpatrick (dropped from 3)
7. Denzel Ward. (added)

Trade Back (if value)

8. Josh Jackson
9. Davenport
10. Jaire Alexander (added)

Trade Back (more desperate)

11 Vita Vea
12 Roquon Smith (dropped injury red flag rumors)

Trade Back (there must be a top QB left and someone will be willing to pay)

Just follow down the list. The highest player on the list, gets picked. Trade back is where I would seriously start exploring trades. If I don't get the right value, then go down the list.

At this point I am sure there will be at least 4 other players (QBs, OT, surprise!) gone, so someone on this list 10 or above should be there.

I'd tweak your list a little bit to get my decision matrix for the Pack:

1. Bradely Chubb
2. Derwin James
3. Minkah Fitzpatrick
4. Saquon Barkley
5. Denzel Ward

Trade Back (if value)

6. Harold Landry
7. Josh Jackson
8. Quenton Nelson

Trade Back (more desperate)

9. Tremaine Edmunds
10. Mike Hughes

Trade Back (there must be a top QB left and someone will be willing to pay)

11. Jaire Alexander
12. Vita Vea
13. Marcus Davenport
14. Roquan Smith (I'd only place him here after these red flags named earlier, if this is not the case he slots in over Edmunds.)


I'd rather stay away from boom or bust prospects like Edmunds and Davenport.

 

[GleefulGary]

You can obviously love him all you want and are entitled to your opinions as much as anyone.

Here is the reality. His jumps weren't just bad but the worst of the WR group at the whole combine. Then you combine that with his size and thats a MAJOR red flag. Yet people tell me he is worth it because he can run good routes. Good Grief. You mean to tell me a 1st round pick is worth a marginal undersized athlete that can run good routes?

If this guy played for a team like SMU he wouldnt even be in conversation of day 1. In fact, he would probably be a day 3 pick if not an UDFA.

"BUST CITY"

Can you imagine Ridley at SMU?

If only we had some precedent of an SEC WR going to SMU, then we might now how that would go. Oh? What's that...we do?!

Trey Quinn, who couldn't get off the bench at LSU transferred to SMU and led them in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns this year. Calvin Ridley has been Alabama's best WR since his freshman year, going head to head with SEC CB's and winning the vast majority of the time. I think he'd do alright at SMU.

And I just want you to realize you're calling him UDFA talent. He's the same guy whether he plays at Bama, SMU, or Montana State. Same player at any school, and you think he's at best a 3rd day talent, probably UDFA. Wow.

 

[GleefulGary]

What's even harder to believe than Ridley being UDFA talent is that a man who made his living in sales has sold Sutton so well that people are starting to dislike Sutton because of said salesmanship...

 

[elcid]

I just simulated a mock in Fanspeak, here were my results:


14: R1P14
CB DENZEL WARD
OHIO STATE

45: R2P13
CB ISAIAH OLIVER
COLORADO

76: R3P12
EDGE LORENZO CARTER
GEORGIA

101: R4P1
OT GERON CHRISTIAN
LOUISVILLE

133: R4P33
TE DALTON SCHULTZ
STANFORD

138: R5P1
WR TRE'QUAN SMITH
UCF

172: R5P35
LB JACK CICHY
WISCONSIN

174: R5P37
G WILL CLAPP
LSU

186: R6P12
S JEREMY REAVES
SOUTH ALABAMA

207: R6P33
EDGE JUSTIN LAWLER
SMU

232: R7P14
WR RICHIE JAMES
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE

239: R7P21
RB AKRUM WADLEY
IOWA

In it I drafted a SMU player so that hopefully peace between nations can be restored in this thread and us Packer fans can come together and unify once again.

 

[OldSchool101]

IMO many fans are underestimating Tremaine Edmunds. I believe he is already currently in the top 3 most talented Defensive players available in 2018, but he has the highest improvement ceiling by a long shot. Edmunds being estimated as a probowl type talent sais it all, the experts don't throw around 7+ grades lightly. Bradley Chubb will likely be a better 1st year player without a doubt, but I believe a year or two into his 5 year contract (keep in mind he was a 17yr Freshman in college and really has only played for 2 full years) you'll see a significant jump in Edmunds production and he has the potential to be an absolute terror in the right system and with the right coaching (think early CM3). It all depends on Mike Pettines plan. He may not be the right fit I don't pretend to know, but if he falls past #14 I'd be shocked and there will be a lot of regrets

 

[OldSchool101]

What's even harder to believe than Ridley being UDFA talent is that a man who made his living in sales has sold Sutton so well that people are starting to dislike Sutton because of said salesmanship...

I don't dislike Sutton I think he's going to be one of the top 3 WR's in this years class (maybe top 2) He's an all around gifted athlete and excelled in baseball, basketball and football. This kid can do it all.

The issue this year is that there is no true clear cut #1 WR. I have both Ridley and Courtland as top half #2's.. .or bottom half #1's. Just like college, much will be defined by who is tossing the ball. I do believe that Courtland would match up with an Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan type QB really well and with some natural chemistry Sutton could be pretty dangerous. The only issue I have is wanting to fix this Defense first and #14 doesn't get me super excited for this WR draft class. GB has been ultra successful at landing WR's outside round 1, pair that with a new Defensive scheme and it doesn't bode well for 2018 to pick a WR this early.
I'll let the professionals decide because we have zero idea what they are thinking let's face it. lol

 

[brandon2348]

What's even harder to believe than Ridley being UDFA talent is that a man who made his living in sales has sold Sutton so well that people are starting to dislike Sutton because of said salesmanship...

This isnt a "sales floor" and I dont make a dime whether people buy Sutton or not so I could give a **** really. I am simply making an observation and judgement based on many factors that lead me to believe he is the best prospect which fills a huge need. Sometimes the truth ruffles some feathers which appears to be the case here. I suppose I could lie to myself and live in fairy tale land that a physically undersized receiver with mediocre talent is gonna take the NFL by storm with pure "route running". I guess if we drafted Ridley we could say we improved our "route running". Overall I just dont see it or the value. I could be wrong but don't believe I am. Dont worry! Plenty of people like Sutton so we dont need your confirmation.

Furthermore if you knew anything about sales you would know your not gonna sell everyone. In fact if you average 1 sale out of 3 or even 4 you are considered All-Star status and will have $ falling out of your pockets. Rejection is my friend.

If anything i've probably oversold Sutton and that's fine. It comes from being a passionate fan and a certain level of excitement that comes to me with the possibilities of him with his talent and skill set being in this offense. If you can't see it then I can't help ya. It feels like dragging a 1000 pound ox to see the light and i'm done with it. Go Love Ridley.

The draft will tell us pretty much everytbing we need to know.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Not sure anyone has brought it up but I am just now thinking (mind you I don't know how good he is) that it would be a good idea to pick the OT from Notre Dame. How often do we have a chance to pick the 1st tackle in a draft? Like never. Bulaga will probably not make it through the year and will retire soon anyway. And about the only thing I can say about Spriggs is that he improved a little from horrible. Anyway, I would not be disappointed if we went that route.

With the Packers being set at left tackle and more pressing needs on defense they should pass on drafting a tackle in the first round.

I was actually thinking Payne when I responded. I think more of Payne than Hurst. But they are both really good players. Payne will go earlier. Hurst? There are 60 players who should be gone when we pick in the 2nd. Someone must slip: LVE, Hurst, Ridley, Davenport, Oliver, Jackson, McGlinchey, Sutton, Bryan, Evans, Hernandez, Orlando Beown, connor William's, Guice, Ronnie Harrison, Hughes, Alexander, Kolton . . .

Probably put another dozen on there, figure a dozen we didnt see coming, and it becomes likely someone on my list who deserves to go much higher is sitting there for us in red 2.

FWIW PFF has Hurst ranked as the third best prospect in this year's draft. It's possible he could slip based on the heart condition discovered at the combine but he's most likely to talented to drop to the Packers second round pick.

IMO many fans are underestimating Tremaine Edmunds. I believe he is already currently in the top 3 most talented Defensive players available in 2018, but he has the highest improvement ceiling by a long shot. Edmunds being estimated as a probowl type talent sais it all, the experts don't throw around 7+ grades lightly. Bradley Chubb will likely be a better 1st year player without a doubt, but I believe a year or two into his 5 year contract (keep in mind he was a 17yr Freshman in college and really has only played for 2 full years) you'll see a significant jump in Edmunds production and he has the potential to be an absolute terror in the right system and with the right coaching (think early CM3). It all depends on Mike Pettines plan. He may not be the right fit I don't pretend to know, but if he falls past #14 I'd be shocked and there will be a lot of regrets

Edmunds definitely has a ton of potential but the Packers would take a huge gamble on him being able to translate his athletic ability to becoming a special player at the pro level.

 

[elcid]

IMO many fans are underestimating Tremaine Edmunds. I believe he is already currently in the top 3 most talented Defensive players available in 2018, but he has the highest improvement ceiling by a long shot. Edmunds being estimated as a probowl type talent sais it all, the experts don't throw around 7+ grades lightly. Bradley Chubb will likely be a better 1st year player without a doubt, but I believe a year or two into his 5 year contract (keep in mind he was a 17yr Freshman in college and really has only played for 2 full years) you'll see a significant jump in Edmunds production and he has the potential to be an absolute terror in the right system and with the right coaching (think early CM3). It all depends on Mike Pettines plan. He may not be the right fit I don't pretend to know, but if he falls past #14 I'd be shocked and there will be a lot of regrets

Edmunds, just like Davenport, just completely screams boom or bust to me. Sure, he is hella young and a freak of nature, however he does not seem as instinctive, and thats a trait you cant teach (and which is very much required for a covering ILB). He could be a monster in the league. He could also become a serviceable backup in the worst case. While I was fan of drafting him at 14 at first, like previously mentioned by many others, we need impact players at 14 and we NEED that pick to be a home run. Edmunds (and Davenport) are no home run guarantees by any margin. Id rather take a much safer prospect in any of the safeties, Smith, Landry, or a CB in Ward/Jackson/Hughes if still available and healthy.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Id rather take a much safer prospect in any of the safeties, Smith, Landry, or a CB in Ward/Jackson/Hughes if still available and healthy.

I agree with most of your post but believe drafting Hughes at #14 would be a reach.

 

[thequick12]

You can't be... we were done with the Sutton talk 500 pages ago, but yet here you are. Like I said, I'm not a Ridley fan, but as long as you shove Sutton down our throat, I'm going to push Ridley down yours.

Both Ridley and Sutton are overrated there are better wr options. I really hope the Packers don't end up with either

 

[thequick12]

Edmunds, just like Davenport, just completely screams boom or bust to me. Sure, he is hella young and a freak of nature, however he does not seem as instinctive, and thats a trait you cant teach (and which is very much required for a covering ILB). He could be a monster in the league. He could also become a serviceable backup in the worst case. While I was fan of drafting him at 14 at first, like previously mentioned by many others, we need impact players at 14 and we NEED that pick to be a home run. Edmunds (and Davenport) are no home run guarantees by any margin. Id rather take a much safer prospect in any of the safeties, Smith, Landry, or a CB in Ward/Jackson/Hughes if still available and healthy.

Tremaine Edmunds is like Anthony Barr and look what he did for the Vikings defense. Despite his lack of insticts Edmunds put up huge numbers in major college football there's no reason to think his insticts aren't good enough to do the same in the nfl. Also to some extent insticts can be taught by good coaches. He'll never have elite insticts but they will certainly get better with experience and coaching

 

[AmishMafia]

IMO many fans are underestimating Tremaine Edmunds. I believe he is already currently in the top 3 most talented Defensive players available in 2018, but he has the highest improvement ceiling by a long shot. Edmunds being estimated as a probowl type talent sais it all, the experts don't throw around 7+ grades lightly. Bradley Chubb will likely be a better 1st year player without a doubt, but I believe a year or two into his 5 year contract (keep in mind he was a 17yr Freshman in college and really has only played for 2 full years) you'll see a significant jump in Edmunds production and he has the potential to be an absolute terror in the right system and with the right coaching (think early CM3). It all depends on Mike Pettines plan. He may not be the right fit I don't pretend to know, but if he falls past #14 I'd be shocked and there will be a lot of regrets

Absolutely agree. I think he is going to be a defensive focal point for 10 years for some lucky team.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Tremaine Edmunds is like Anthony Barr and look what he did for the Vikings defense. Despite his lack of insticts Edmunds put up huge numbers in major college football there's no reason to think his insticts aren't good enough to do the same in the nfl. Also to some extent insticts can be taught by good coaches. He'll never have elite insticts but they will certainly get better with experience and coaching

While it's definitely possible that Edmunds develops into an elite linebacker at the pro level there's more risk involved with him than other prospects available at #14.

With that being said I'm not opposed to the Packers selecting him though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This isnt a "sales floor" and I dont make a dime whether people buy Sutton or not so I could give a **** really.

If anything i've probably oversold Sutton and that's fine. It comes from being a passionate fan and a certain level of excitement that comes to me with the possibilities of him with his talent and skill set being in this offense.

I've personally enjoyed your passion for Sutton in an entertaining kind of way. Sure to some you are sounding like that commercial that runs every 5 minutes on the radio, but I get it, you love the dude as a prospect and nothing wrong with some good hearted back and forth, that people have the option of abstaining from at anytime. For those who have participated in the the "Sutton" conversation, I have enjoyed your part in it as well, you disagree and aren't afraid to speak out. Fun, lively conversations is what makes this forum a success and agreeing or disagreeing with each other is healthy and sometimes very entertaining!

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

While it's definitely possible that Edmunds develops into an elite linebacker at the pro level there's more risk involved with him than other prospects available at #14.

With that being said I'm not opposed to the Packers selecting him though.

Exactly this. There's no way I could get mad at us selecting him at #14, there is a huge risk/reward to the pick. He's athletic as hell, but damn does he whiff sometimes. He has high bust potential, but is extremely young and raw. That's what the draft is about, teams select for potential and he has it, but he's most likely going to take some time to buff out.

 

[Dantés]

Of course Gutekunst is his own man, but given that he was a Ron Wolf hire, scouted for three years under Wolf, and then worked for Thompson for 13 years, perhaps history can be instructive in pointing us towards certain prospects at #14 and away from others. Between Wolf and Thompson, we have a sample of 24 first round picks:

1991: Vinnie Clark, CB, Ohio State
1992: Terrell Buckley, CB, Florida State
1993: Wayne Simmons, LB, Clemson; George Teague, S, Alabama
1994: Aaron Taylor, G, Notre Dame
1995: Craig Newsome, CB, Arizona State
1996: John Michels, OT, USC
1997: Ross Verba, OT, Iowa
1998: Vonnie Holiday, ED, UNC
1999: Antuan Edwards, CB, Clemson
2000: Bubba Franks, TE, Miami
2001: Jamal Reynolds, ED, Florida State

2005: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal
2006: A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State
2007: Justin Harrell, iDL, Tennessee
2008: N/A
2009: B.J. Raji, iDL, Boston College; Clay Matthews, ED, USC
2010: Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
2011: Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. State
2012: Nick Perry, ED, USC
2013: Datone Jones, iDL, UCLA
2014: Haha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
2015: Damarious Randall, CB, Arizona State
2016: Kenny Clark, iDL, UCLA
2017: N/A

So out of the 24 player sample, we see:

• QB, 1: Obviously this is impacted by having Favre and then Rodgers and not needing another.
• RB, 0: Even if you include the Sherman era, the Packers haven't taken a RB in round 1 since 1987.
• WR, 0: Sherman took Javon Walker in round 1 in 2002, but neither Wolf nor Thompson ever took one.
• TE, 1: Only one since 1991 and that was 18 years ago.
• OT, 4: Two apiece for Wolf and Thompson.
• G, 1: Wolf took one, 24 years ago.
• C, 0
• iDL, 4: These were all TT; Wolf never took one.
• ED, 4: Two apiece for each guy.
• LB, 2: One apiece for each guy.
• CB, 5: 4 of these were Wolf.
• S, 2: 1 apiece for each guy.
• ST, 0: They're not Al Davis.

So... if (and I do mean if) Gutekunst follows in the philosophy of his hiring GM and the guy he worked for for 13 years, it would seem really unlikely that he will take a QB, RB, WR, TE, or iOL at #14. It is almost as unlikely that he will take a LB or S. He would be most likely to take an OT, iDL, ED, or CB.

Here are the top 30 or so players in this class with the likely prospects in green, the less likely in orange, and the least likely in red:

1. Q. Nelson, G, ND
2. S. Barkley, RB, PSU
3. B. Chubb, ED, NCSU
4. S. Darnold, QB, USC
5. D. James, S, FSU
6. D. Ward, CB, OSU
7. T. Edmunds, LB, VTU
8. R. Smith, LB, UGA
9. M. Fitzpatrick, DB, UA*
10. H. Landry, ED, BC
11. J. Rosen, QB, UCLA
12. B. Mayfield, QB, OK
13. J. Jackson, CB, IOWA
14. C. Ridley, WR, UA
15. M. Hurst, iDL, UM
16. D. Guice, RB, LSU
17. D. Payne, iDL, UA
18. V. Vea, iDL, UW
19. L. Jackson, QB, LOU
20. J. Allen, QB, WYO
21. L. Vander Esch, LB, BSU
22. M. McGlinchey, OT, ND
23. C. Williams, OT, UT
24. I. Wynn, iOL, UGA
25. W. Hernandez, iOL, UTEP
26. M. Davenport, ED, UTSA
27. C. Sutton, WR, SMU
28. R. Harrison, S, UA
29. S. Michel, RB, UGA
30. R. Jones, RB, USC

*Fitzpatrick kind of depends on whether they view him primarily as a corner or safety

To reiterate-- Gutekunst is not by any way bound to these patterns and if this little study happened to cast an "unlikely" light on your favorite prospect(s), I'm not trying to rule that guy out for the Packers. But I do think it's more probable than not that Gute will follow some of these patterns, and I'm sure he will also make his own mark (as Wolf and TT were not identical by any means).

If he does follow in his predecessors' footsteps, Landry and Jackson strike me as the most probable targets at #14 as they are "green" positions and also stand a decent chance of being there when they pick.

 

[gopkrs]

With the Packers being set at left tackle and more pressing needs on defense they should pass on drafting a tackle in the first round.

I have to disagree. They may be set at Left OT but not on the Right side. The ND prospect is ready to play the Right side and if we have problems on pass pro; we will not go far in the playoffs. It would be a pick for the future in a nuts and bolts position. I do believe we will get a good pick at 14 but I would not be unhappy to fortify the line. I don't have confidence for Spriggs handling an upper echelon pass rusher and he may be better at guard anyway. It sounds like a safe and worthy pick to me. The absolute worst thing would be to pick a pass rusher who does not pan out.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Ok, so here's my question. Why aren't we comparing Ridley to the norm rather than to Brandin Cooks? Because Cooks was really, really young coming out. When his rookie season started, he couldn't legally buy beer. But the norm is that a senior is 22 entering year one, and if a guy is coming out early he is probably 21. So compared to that Ridley is a year older than your typical senior, or two years older than a guy who comes out early. Compared to Cooks, you could say that basically every receiver who comes out as a senior is two years behind.

And I'll reiterate what I said earlier in this thread-- I get if people are turned off by him being older. I think that's fair. I'm just trying to understand why it would be a major hindrance to him in the league. In other words, if it's a major problem, why would he be so much more valuable if he was a year younger like a normal senior prospect?

The last thing I'll say is that Ridley seems to take flack for this more than other prospects in similar positions. It's most likely because he's a high profile guy, which is fair. But I don't think people realize that Anthony Miller is actually a couple months older than Ridley. Hayden Hurst turns 25 in August.

You just said it yourself, Ridley is two years older than the typical early entrant and a year older than the normal senior. That's an issue when his main selling point is "route runner". Well, yeah, he SHOULD be better at that since he's had an extra year, or two, to improve that skill verse the normal rookie. To me, that means his upside is more limited. I'd rather take a guy with worse route running, but elite physical skills, with the idea that he can be taught to run routes in the NFL in a year or two and then, at the same age, he'll be a better player than Ridley.

I'm not anti-Ridley, just anti-Ridley in the first round. I don't really think any receiver is worth a top-15 pick this year when guys like Landry, Hurst, James, Smith, etc. might be there on defense where the Packers need the most help.

 

[Dantés]

You just said it yourself, Ridley is two years older than the typical early entrant and a year older than the normal senior. That's an issue when his main selling point is "route runner". Well, yeah, he SHOULD be better at that since he's had an extra year, or two, to improve that skill verse the normal rookie. To me, that means his upside is more limited. I'd rather take a guy with worse route running, but elite physical skills, with the idea that he can be taught to run routes in the NFL in a year or two and then, at the same age, he'll be a better player than Ridley.

I'm not anti-Ridley, just anti-Ridley in the first round. I don't really think any receiver is worth a top-15 pick this year when guys like Landry, Hurst, James, Smith, etc. might be there on defense where the Packers need the most help.

That's actually not true. Believe it or not, Ridley is an early entrant. He was just a really old senior in high school. He was 20 by the time he started playing at Alabama. He's only played 3 seasons. So if the argument is that he's had more years of college play/coaching which means he has less upside, I don't see it.

I'd also add that route running, while an improvable skill, is not something that's guaranteed to improve. One of the biggest reasons we've seen so many 1st round receivers bust in recent drafts is because they're coming out of programs that don't ask them to run pro style routes and they don't pick it up well or easily at the next level. I don't see many receivers even in the pro's with Ridley's natural talent and skill for running routes and creating separation. I also balk a little bit at the criticism of Ridley's athleticism. On tape, he was really fast and really quick in and out of his breaks. That was his particular type of athleticism and he put it to good use. His testing essentially backed that up.

But I agree that there are several options I'd take ahead of him. He's really just a fall back option that I like.

 

[OldSchool101]

1991: Vinnie Clark, CB, Ohio State
1992: Terrell Buckley, CB, Florida State
1993: Wayne Simmons, LB, Clemson; George Teague, S, Alabama
1994: Aaron Taylor, G, Notre Dame
1995: Craig Newsome, CB, Arizona State
1996: John Michels, OT, USC
1997: Ross Verba, OT, Iowa
1998: Vonnie Holiday, ED, UNC
1999: Antuan Edwards, CB, Clemson
2000: Bubba Franks, TE, Miami
2001: Jamal Reynolds, ED, Florida State

2005: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Cal
2006: A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State
2007: Justin Harrell, iDL, Tennessee
2008: N/A
2009: B.J. Raji, iDL, Boston College; Clay Matthews, ED, USC
2010: Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
2011: Derek Sherrod, OT, Miss. State
2012: Nick Perry, ED, USC
2013: Datone Jones, iDL, UCLA
2014: Haha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
2015: Damarious Randall, CB, Arizona State
2016: Kenny Clark, iDL, UCLA
2017: N/A

First and foremost.. nicely done.
As just a general observation, other than QB the most successful area overall as far as career production in that first round is Edge. Vonnie Holliday, Clay Mathews and Nick Perry have been pretty solid overall. It has been largely successful with the main exception of Jamaal Reynolds (this is the only Edge player we picked #14 or earlier and one could argue an early injury caused his career end, not talent etc..)

The one that surprised me is how much we missed at CB. Drafting Buckley, Clark, Newsome, Edwards and Randall? It sure doesn't make me get excited about drafting a CB that's for sure.
I'm still leaning going with an Edge type player, then hitting CB 2X by the close of round 4

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The one that surprised me is how much we missed at CB. Drafting Buckley, Clark, Newsome, Edwards and Randall? It sure doesn't make me get excited about drafting a CB that's for sure

Toss in Ahmad Carroll (Sherman pick) and second rounders Rollins, Pat Lee and Fred Vinson and you have exactly why I am nervous as well when I hear talk of the Packer spending yet another high pick on a CB. This is one position I would rather see the Packers get a proven player through Free Agency, but that boat seems to have sailed once again.

Edit: Just saw that Vinson netted us Ahman Green and a 5th round pick when traded to Seattle, so strike his name. ...although he did end up having an injury filled crappy career.

 

[OldSchool101]

Toss in Ahmad Carroll (Sherman pick) and second rounders Rollins, Pat Lee and Fred Vinson and you have exactly why I am nervous as well when I hear talk of the Packer spending yet another high pick on a CB. This is one position I would rather see the Packers get a proven player through Free Agency, but that boat seems to have sailed once again.

Amen to that! I think it all came down to supply and demand this year and it is clearly a seller's market (and we're the buyer).

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lance Zierlein's latest grading of draft prospects:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects