With their 1st Pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Packers select...

[brandon2348]

I'm going to disagree with you here. Ridley is the smoothest WR to come out in a while. Great routes and understands the passing game and how to get open. He is a natural. Think it was Jerimiah on NFLN who said he reminds him of Marvin Harrison. I think 14 is too soon for him though. But in the 2nd? Sure!

He isn't as fast as Harrison and not near the total athlete either. Its just such a huge gamble with Ridley in 1st because if he can't stiffle NFL DB's with route running he has nowhere to go but out of the league.

 

[brandon2348]

Ridley would've been a UDFA if he played anywhere other than Alabama, where obvious great passing play put him over the top.

Now *that* is a hot take and I love the audacity of it.

I never said "anywhere but Alabama" but said "A team like SMU". I seriously doubt Ridley would of been able to go to a losing program like SMU and carry it on his back to relevancy like Sutton did.

 

[brandon2348]

Ridley is nothing more then some Gizmo route running gadget that we could get virtually get the same thing with James Washington later along with more size and explosion. Washington put on a clinic in running routes and seperating out of breaks at senior bowl. I believe he transitions better to NFL then Ridley.

One good "lights out" to Ridley and its over.

 

[AmishMafia]

I've seen you say this a few times. Can you refer me to who ever said Landry is risk-free?

I'm sorry...Harold Landry is worth the risk in the 2nd?!

WHAT RISK?!

The risk of a day one pass rusher? How awful.

He should be a top 10 pick. Take him take him take him.

 

[AmishMafia]

Ridley is nothing more then some Gizmo route running gadget that we could get virtually get the same thing with James Washington later along with more size and explosion. Washington put on a clinic in running routes and seperating out of breaks at senior bowl. I believe he transitions better to NFL then Ridley.

One good "lights out" to Ridley and its over.

Trevor Davis is faster, quicker and more explosive than Washington. Across the board his measurables are better. No need to upgrade the position afterall.

 

[brandon2348]

Trevor Davis is faster, quicker and more explosive than Washington. Across the board his measurables are better. No need to upgrade the position afterall.

Im glad you brougbt up T. Davis because thats precisely what were gonna get with Ridley. Another 190 pound ***** receiver that lacks strength getting pushed around and off his routes in the NFL.

Whats funny is every time the Packers have gone after one of these thin and weak bodied receivers it hasnt worked out. Add Abbrederis to the list too while your at it. Yet there is this push to do the same damn thing again only now in the first round. It"s just unreal.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Im glad you brougbt up T. Davis because thats precisely what were gonna get with Ridley. Another 190 pound ***** receiver that lacks strength getting pushed around and off his routes in the NFL.

Whats funny is every time the Packers have gone after one of these thin and weak bodied receivers it hasnt worked out. Add Abbrederis to the list too while your at it. Yet there is this push to do the same damn thing again only now in the first round. It"s just unreal.

Jesus Christ, the hyperbole from you is unbelievable. I'm not even a Ridley fan, but hearing **** like ***** receiver... really? There's a ton of receivers Ridley's size that have had success. Stop with this ******** narrative that if the receiver isn't 6'2"+ they suck, they're weak, and they'll never amount to anything. God, it's just annoying now.

 

[Dantés]

I remember now why I had the troll on ignore. Sorry for wasting so many pages, guys.

 

[brandon2348]

Jesus Christ, the hyperbole from you is unbelievable. I'm not even a Ridley fan, but hearing **** like ***** receiver... really? There's a ton of receivers Ridley's size that have had success. Stop with this ******** narrative that if the receiver isn't 6'2"+ they suck, they're weak, and they'll never amount to anything. God, it's just annoying now.

Please show me a guy Ridley's size along with athletic numbers that is a star in the modern day NFL and I will gladly shut my trap.

 

[Dantés]

I can't believe I'm doing this... I'm sure he's lying about shutting his trap, but:

Antonio Brown

• 5'10", 186
• 4.57 forty
• 33.5"; 105" jumps
• 6.98 3C
• 4.18 SS

Calvin Ridley

• 6'0.5", 189
• 4.43 forty
• 31"; 110" jumps
• 6.88 3C
• 4.41 SS

 

[Sunshinepacker]

He's actually 14 months younger. Cooks was born in September of '93 and Ridley in December of '94.

However, he is about a year older than the norm for a college prospect (most come in at 22 and he will come in at 23). But I don't see why that one year would be a major concern, especially since he's the most pro ready WR. If he was a great receiver for them from age 23-32 instead of 22-31, is that making a super dramatic difference?

Sorry, that's what I meant, i know he's not actually older. Just that he's not much younger than a guy who already has 3,943 yards receiving in the NFL. And "one" year isn't a major concern. Ridley, who is a little more than one year younger than Cooks will be going into his first season in the NFL while Cooks will be entering his fifth; that's a four year difference. Remove a year because he's younger and he's still approximately 3 years behind Cook when he enters the NFL. That's kind of a big deal.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[brandon2348]

I can't believe I'm doing this... I'm sure he's lying about shutting his trap, but:

Antonio Brown

• 5'10", 186
• 4.57 forty
• 33.5"; 105" jumps
• 6.98 3C
• 4.18 SS

Calvin Ridley

• 6'0.5", 189
• 4.43 forty
• 31"; 110" jumps
• 6.88 3C
• 4.41 SS

Brown is way more compact at basically same weight and two inches shorter and now he runs a 4.35 and is stronger. He is still also more explosive then Ridley.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...ntonio-brown-improves-his-40-yard-dash-time-6

Ridley is gonna be 24 this year so not sure he is the best candidate to develop. Im pretty sure with what you see is what your gonna get.

More "La La Land". Carry on.

 

[GleefulGary]

That was me asking you what the risk of him was because you wouldn't state it.

I've mentioned multiple times here that no prospect is risk free.

 

[brandon2348]

Also, I never said receivers need to be at least 6'2. In fact if you read my posts you will find I really like Callaway who is under 6'0. I named James Washington too. I love how you guys take bits and pieces of what i say and then use it against me.

Real cool.

 

[AmishMafia]

Also, I never said receivers need to be at least 6'2. In fact if you read my posts you will find I really like Callaway who is under 6'0. I named James Washington too. I love how you guys take bits and pieces of what i say and then use it against me.

Real cool.

oh okay. This got wierd. I guess we need and love you too.

 

[Dantés]

He promised to shut his trap guys. This is disappointing.

 

[Dantés]

Sorry, that's what I meant, i know he's not actually older. Just that he's not much younger than a guy who already has 3,943 yards receiving in the NFL. And "one" year isn't a major concern. Ridley, who is a little more than one year younger than Cooks will be going into his first season in the NFL while Cooks will be entering his fifth; that's a four year difference. Remove a year because he's younger and he's still approximately 3 years behind Cook when he enters the NFL. That's kind of a big deal.

Ok, so here's my question. Why aren't we comparing Ridley to the norm rather than to Brandin Cooks? Because Cooks was really, really young coming out. When his rookie season started, he couldn't legally buy beer. But the norm is that a senior is 22 entering year one, and if a guy is coming out early he is probably 21. So compared to that Ridley is a year older than your typical senior, or two years older than a guy who comes out early. Compared to Cooks, you could say that basically every receiver who comes out as a senior is two years behind.

And I'll reiterate what I said earlier in this thread-- I get if people are turned off by him being older. I think that's fair. I'm just trying to understand why it would be a major hindrance to him in the league. In other words, if it's a major problem, why would he be so much more valuable if he was a year younger like a normal senior prospect?

The last thing I'll say is that Ridley seems to take flack for this more than other prospects in similar positions. It's most likely because he's a high profile guy, which is fair. But I don't think people realize that Anthony Miller is actually a couple months older than Ridley. Hayden Hurst turns 25 in August.

 

[Dantés]

I will say that, despite being a promise breaker, I appreciate the entertainment that @brandon2348 provides the board.

Here Antonio Brown ran a 4.57 at the combine and a 4.48 at his pro day and we're supposed to give him credit for a 4.35 because a fan wrote a blog post based on a tweet put out by the athlete himself. If this didn't fit @brandon2348 's narrative, he would have some long post with lots of all caps and cuss words talking about how "it's unreal" or "he can't believe it" (I'm finding that @brandon2348 thinks very little is actually real and many things cannot be believed) that people are basing their opinion on such trash. However, in this case it does fit @brandon2348 's narrative so it's going to be casually referred to as fact. That's great stuff.

Say @brandon2348 , what does Antonio Brown's mom think? Also, can we please find a blogspot article from a 15 year old SMU fan to substantiate Courtland Sutton's value? Or best of all, maybe you can just write a blog explaining your wisdom and then quote it to prove your point on the form? Yes, I think that would be best. Please and thank you.

 

[brandon2348]

He promised to shut his trap guys. This is disappointing.

Its a terrible comp. There not the same body type or height. Still Brown got drafted in the 7th round for a reason and if anything it shows thats where Ridley should be drafted based on talent. For every Antonio Brown there are literally hundreds with similar athletic trait that did not make a roster for a reason. Its just a horrible to even discuss this guy as a first round talent.

Im done with Ridley talk. Im gonna take the high road yet again in regards Calvin "Can't Jump" Ridley.

 

[Dantés]

Im glad you brougbt up T. Davis because thats precisely what were gonna get with Ridley. Another 190 pound ***** receiver that lacks strength getting pushed around and off his routes in the NFL.

Whats funny is every time the Packers have gone after one of these thin and weak bodied receivers it hasnt worked out. Add Abbrederis to the list too while your at it. Yet there is this push to do the same damn thing again only now in the first round. It"s just unreal.

Its a terrible comp. There not the same body type or height. Still Brown got drafted in the 7th round for a reason and if anything it shows thats where Ridley should be drafted based on talent. For every Antonio Brown there are literally hundreds with similar athletic trait that did not make a roster for a reason. Its just a horrible to even discuss this guy as a first round talent.

Im done with Ridley talk. Im gonna take the high road yet again in regards Calvin "Can't Jump" Ridley.

 

[brandon2348]

I will say that, despite being a promise breaker, I appreciate the entertainment that @brandon2348 provides the board.

Here Antonio Brown ran a 4.57 at the combine and a 4.48 at his pro day and we're supposed to give him credit for a 4.35 because a fan wrote a blog post based on a tweet put out by the athlete himself. If this didn't fit @brandon2348 's narrative, he would have some long post with lots of all caps and cuss words talking about how "it's unreal" or "he can't believe it" (I'm finding that @brandon2348 thinks very little is actually real and many things cannot be believed) that people are basing their opinion on such trash. However, in this case it does fit @brandon2348 's narrative so it's going to be casually referred to as fact. That's great stuff.

Say @brandon2348 , what does Antonio Brown's mom think? Also, can we please find a blogspot article from a 15 year old SMU fan to substantiate Courtland Sutton's value? Or best of all, maybe you can just write a blog explaining your wisdom and then quote it to prove your point on the form? Yes, I think that would be best. Please and thank you.

Well since you asked CBS has Ridley as the 47th best player and 4th best receiver. Those darn 15 year olds over at CBS. Gosh,
Let me tell ya. Those silly kids over at CBS have Courtland Sutton as the 5th best player in the whole damn draft. Silly kids.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

 

[Dantés]

You know, in terms of build, play style, and age, it's hard to find a better comp for Ridley than Marvin Harrison. Obviously to be that good would be his most extreme "uppest" of upsides. But you have Ridley just a 1/2" over 6' and 189 lbs and Harrison came out basically right at 6' and 181 lbs. Both excelled with excellent routes and speed. They are more "on the ground" type receivers than guys who win/won at the catch point. Harrison was actually even older than Ridley coming out of Syracuse. He was 24 before he ever played a snap in the NFL. I can't find Harrison's combine or pro day numbers anywhere. But it's a pretty good comparison in a lot of ways.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

I can't believe I'm doing this... I'm sure he's lying about shutting his trap, but:

Antonio Brown

• 5'10", 186
• 4.57 forty
• 33.5"; 105" jumps
• 6.98 3C
• 4.18 SS

Calvin Ridley

• 6'0.5", 189
• 4.43 forty
• 31"; 110" jumps
• 6.88 3C
• 4.41 SS

Throw in Doug Baldwin, Stephon Diggs, even smaller TY Hilton... screw it im not going further.

 

[ThePerfectBeard]

Its a terrible comp. There not the same body type or height. Still Brown got drafted in the 7th round for a reason and if anything it shows thats where Ridley should be drafted based on talent. For every Antonio Brown there are literally hundreds with similar athletic trait that did not make a roster for a reason. Its just a horrible to even discuss this guy as a first round talent.

Im done with Ridley talk. Im gonna take the high road yet again in regards Calvin "Can't Jump" Ridley.

6th, but let's not let facts get in the way... keep going.