Who do you find at fault for the Packers problems?

[Pucky]

Thompson needs to look for help beyond his stamp. Reggie White would never have been a Packer if Thompson was running the show back then.

 

[Packer Brother]

I mentioned Mark Murphy previously. While business is good right now, all it may take is one non playoff season for ticket holders to bail. Once that happens, things may chance dramatically as far as his role goes.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

I mentioned Mark Murphy previously. While business is good right now, all it may take is one non playoff season for ticket holders to bail. Once that happens, things may chance dramatically as far as his role goes.

Interesting point but given the waiting list for season tickets is 15 plus years, I don`t think that will have a major impact unfortunately.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I mentioned Mark Murphy previously. While business is good right now, all it may take is one non playoff season for ticket holders to bail. Once that happens, things may chance dramatically as far as his role goes.

One only has to look at the Green Bay Packers during some of the 70, 's, all of the 80's and half of the 90's to see just how loyal their fan base is. No worries on that end. We may all be dissatisfied right now, but most of us aren't going anywhere.

Plus, Mark Murphy from what I have seen seems to have great skills on the business end of the Packers. I still don't fully understand why people are pointing fingers at Murphy and saying his job is in jeopardy, unless they want to blame him for not taking the initiative to fire TT sooner, which IMO still isn't a given.

 

[Forget Favre]

I look forward to the time when I can start a survey thread of: "Who do you give credit to getting Green Bay back to it's winning ways?"

 

[smacker]

That sounds like you are including everybody. Who else is there ? Murphy and the cheerleaders ?

No fault with the cheerleaders

 

[smacker]

I think this team has lost it's focus on the game itself. Past success is interfering with current play. To many off the field distractions.

Mark Murphy is more interested in the Packer entertainment district than the team. Ted, it is hard to say. Mike and the players? I remember when there was a coaches show, and that was about it. Now we have multiple TV and radio shows on Tue., Wed., and Thurs. In Green Bay, Milwaukee, and Wausau. The bigger names are all doing commercials. You have to wonder if these distractions are affecting this team? It all starts at the top with Mark Murphy setting the level of accepted excellence, and it seems not all that high as long as the Packers are making money, and the Pack is raking in the cash right now.

You really have to question if the players want MM out. There is more talent on this team than the level of current play. Will Mark Murphy start holding people accountable? We can only wait and see.

 

[NelsonsLongCatch]

1. Ted Thompson: I think the "draft and develop" system is the best system, but it can't be the only method of acquiring talent. Maybe this is what happens after years of not signing free agents and letting good, home-grown talent such as Casey Heyward walk with the assumption that a younger, cheaper player (LaDarius Gunter) will step-up. Cornerback is a perfect example. It went from a position of strength (Williams-Shields-Heyward) to a position of weakness.
2. Mike McCarthy: His offense is stale and bad. The players he has cannot run the offense he wants to run, but no adjustments are ever made. No natural picks. Nobody is ever in motion. Just line it up and run the same routes over-and-over.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I don't have enough fingers to sign all of the blame that needs to apportioned. It starts with TT's many bad draft picks over the past five years but the team doesn't play hard and is soft so you have to put a lot of the blame on MM. Finally it don't seem like there is any leadership on this team in the player ranks so the veterans like Jordy, CM3 and AR should take some of the blame as well.

 

[P-E-Z]

I'm not one to blame Rodgers. Maybe the WR talent has declined. One thing is obvious.....Rodgers drops back....has great protection from the O line and yet has difficulty finding someone open. I tend to think it's the WR's who are not getting open. Is Rodgers missing open receivers ? I don't think so.

Rodger threw some really passes today ...low and off target.

 

[P-E-Z]

I mentioned Mark Murphy previously. While business is good right now, all it may take is one non playoff season for ticket holders to bail. Once that happens, things may chance dramatically as far as his role goes.

Not with fans how long the waiting list

 

[Forget Favre]

I think this team has lost it's focus on the game itself. Past success is interfering with current play. To many off the field distractions.

Mark Murphy is more interested in the Packer entertainment district than the team. Ted, it is hard to say. Mike and the players? I remember when there was a coaches show, and that was about it. Now we have multiple TV and radio shows on Tue., Wed., and Thurs. In Green Bay, Milwaukee, and Wausau. The bigger names are all doing commercials. You have to wonder if these distractions are affecting this team? It all starts at the top with Mark Murphy setting the level of accepted excellence, and it seems not all that high as long as the Packers are making money, and the Pack is raking in the cash right now.

You really have to question if the players want MM out. There is more talent on this team than the level of current play. Will Mark Murphy start holding people accountable? We can only wait and see.

Well heck, maybe it's all her fault:

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I suppose that we can think anything is possible even though I disagree that it's off field distractions since they have been around and teams somehow find a way to avoid them.
How many ads did Peyton do during his SB winning season?

And just how many Packers based shows are there?
Here in Madison we get what feels like half a dozen.
There must be 3-4 on everyday in Green Bay. LOL

 

[theNeed4Cheese]

Lack of leadership. There is no one on the team who is a "ra-ra-follow-me" kind of guy, coaches included.

 

[Ogsponge]

Many are quick to blame MM and TT but, I would like to know what exactly they are doing wrong.

Losing. Period end of story.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

I think that Thompson, McCarthy and the coaching staff as well as the players are partly to blame for the Packers struggling.

..............that pretty well covers everyone.

DS

 

[Vince Lombardi]

This mess starts near the top. Ted Thompson put this cluster of a team together. He refuses to go out and get any players to help MM. With all the injuries to this team all he has done is trade for Davis and then cut him before he was even given a chance so he didn't have to give up a draft choice. He did activate a FB to the roster last week. Fantastic! Every other team scours the waiver wire and signs players to help their team. Not the great Ted Thompson. All he ever does is activate undrafted FA from his practice squad. McCarthy is also to blame, his week in and week out game plans are stale and never seem to change. The NFL has figured out how to stop your offense ADJUST. His game time management and decision making is also horrible.

IMO its time for Mark Murphy to get off his butt and make the necessary move of replacing the GM & coaching staff this offseason. If this doesn't happen I see a return to the gory days of the 70's & 80's returning!

 

[Quientus]

You can "plug in" new coaches (hc, oc, dc etc), however, if the players have become divas, it wont matter who the coach is ...

What the team needs is onfield leadership ... that is something coaching will never fix ...

 

[Deleted member 6794]

You can "plug in" new coaches (hc, oc, dc etc), however, if the players have become divas, it wont matter who the coach is ...

A different head coach might be able to motivate the players again though using different methods.