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I'm happy with the signing. A needed position. And he seems to have been playing decently...at least he has some sacks. Wonder why they let him go. They already paid him.
 
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I'm happy with the signing. A needed position. And he seems to have been playing decently...at least he has some sacks. Wonder why they let him go. They already paid him.
From what I understand, the new staff is trying to go younger and cheaper and they initiated the departure. This was his last year and obviously Houston is on a 5 game losing streak. It’s time to look towards next season and get their rising stars a chance to get significant reps. I doubt they would’ve resigned him past this season because he’s too expensive for his age. He’s just not in their future plans because he’s in those twilight years now.
I really think he could do well in GB as a 3rd rotational and if we somehow get healthy towards seasons end we could be loaded at Defensive depth.
 
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From what I understand, the new staff is trying to go younger and cheaper and they initiated the departure. This was his last year and obviously Houston is on a 5 game losing streak. It’s time to look towards next season and get their rising stars a chance to get significant reps. I doubt they would’ve resigned him past this season because he’s too expensive for his age. He’s just not in their future plans because he’s in those twilight years now.
I really think he could do well in GB as a 3rd rotational and if we somehow get healthy towards seasons end we could be loaded at Defensive depth.
A better draft position by getting rid of a guy they weren't going to have next season anyway?
 

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From what I understand, the new staff is trying to go younger and cheaper and they initiated the departure. This was his last year and obviously Houston is on a 5 game losing streak. It’s time to look towards next season and get their rising stars a chance to get significant reps. I doubt they would’ve resigned him past this season because he’s too expensive for his age. He’s just not in their future plans because he’s in those twilight years now.
I really think he could do well in GB as a 3rd rotational and if we somehow get healthy towards seasons end we could be loaded at Defensive depth.

Exactly too many reasons for them to not allow him this chance; rebuilding has started there with these losses and Watson issue, young guys need evaluated and they can provide Whitney the chance to go elsewhere at his choice.
 

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A better draft position by getting rid of a guy they weren't going to have next season anyway?
I think the idea is that if a good player is gone the chances of losing go up. Therefore, the draft pick would go up. I'm not sure losing him loses any games for them. Maybe, but I think that is the thought there.
 

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The Texans really just want everyone to have their happy endings elsewhere...
This is one of the best internet response I've ever read. I should have given you a laugh instead of just a like but now that Mondio has done so I don't want to feel like I am copying him.
 

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This is one of the best internet response I've ever read. I should have given you a laugh instead of just a like but now that Mondio has done so I don't want to feel like I am copying him.
It's ok to imitate greatness. Indulge :)
 

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1) Trade

2) Tag and trade
Can't say I'm happy with that, but it would probably be a miracle to get much else. I'd really like to keep Rodgers and Adams (I think Rodgers would prefer that too), but if it's not practical I'm at peace with it.
 

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I just realized that along with being a pretty good football player he plays a pretty mean trumpet.
 
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Can't say I'm happy with that, but it would probably be a miracle to get much else. I'd really like to keep Rodgers and Adams (I think Rodgers would prefer that too), but if it's not practical I'm at peace with it.

Here's how I see it.

Rodgers turns 38 this year. Whether he would work it out to stay in Green Bay or not, his time as the Packers' starter is drawing to a close.

After this year, the focus should be on the transition to a new QB.

If the Packers can trade Rodgers for a haul of draft capital, it puts them in position to either:

a) Build around Love with lots of premium talent.

b) Go get another QB if Love ain't the guy.

Not many franchises get the chance to move on to a really talented 1st round QB who has been groomed for two seasons along with a nice float of assets from trading the last guy. That's an ideal situation for transitioning, in my mind. It's more attractive than hanging onto Rodgers for a couple more declining seasons.

On Adams, I would be fine if they worked out a deal with him and kept him around for Love, but I just generally don't love the idea of paying a WR elite money. I don't think the positional value is worth it. I'd rather spend on the OL, DL, ED, CB, etc. So if they could tag and trade and get a nice pick back, I think I'd do it.
 

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On Adams, I would be fine if they worked out a deal with him and kept him around for Love, but I just generally don't love the idea of paying a WR elite money.
Big weapons are nice, but I guess losing Adams would encourage Love to throw the ball around more. I'm guessing Adams follows Rodgers if possible.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of losing Rodgers, QBs are playing longer these days, the rules keep them healthier. But if we can get a bundle for him (unlike with Favre), it would ease the pain.
 

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Can we get this thread back on topic please. Its getting difficult to follow.

I'm guessing we won't see Whitney from Houston until the Cardinals game at the earliest.
 

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Here's how I see it.

Rodgers turns 38 this year. Whether he would work it out to stay in Green Bay or not, his time as the Packers' starter is drawing to a close.

After this year, the focus should be on the transition to a new QB.

If the Packers can trade Rodgers for a haul of draft capital, it puts them in position to either:

a) Build around Love with lots of premium talent.

b) Go get another QB if Love ain't the guy.

Not many franchises get the chance to move on to a really talented 1st round QB who has been groomed for two seasons along with a nice float of assets from trading the last guy. That's an ideal situation for transitioning, in my mind. It's more attractive than hanging onto Rodgers for a couple more declining seasons.

On Adams, I would be fine if they worked out a deal with him and kept him around for Love, but I just generally don't love the idea of paying a WR elite money. I don't think the positional value is worth it. I'd rather spend on the OL, DL, ED, CB, etc. So if they could tag and trade and get a nice pick back, I think I'd do it.
I actually don't disagree with any of this. It makes the most logical sense if one looks at it from a business standpoint. It would just be really hard to watch the current roster be torn apart for the rebuild. The nonlogical part in me wants to work it out with Rodgers and think "if Brady can play to 45 then Rodgers can too". It's just not realistic though. I think you're right on this @Dantés. Sometimes you just have to cut the cord though.
 

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The current roster is going to get torn apart next year regardless. You can destroy the roster next year but try to keep Rodgers around or you can destroy is a little bit more without Rodgers. It's going to be a completely different team next year either way. We've got like 30 guys with a contract expiring in 2022 and a few others like Z with contracts that we are absolutely not paying.
 

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The current roster is going to get torn apart next year regardless. You can destroy the roster next year but try to keep Rodgers around or you can destroy is a little bit more without Rodgers. It's going to be a completely different team next year either way. We've got like 30 guys with a contract expiring in 2022 and a few others like Z with contracts that we are absolutely not paying.
Totally agree. Might as well get as much as you can for the rebuild.

I do like the moves they are making. I think this Mercilus signing, along with Jaylon Smith, shows they are all in on this season. It's Super Bowl or bust and then rebuild next year.
 
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Can we get this thread back on topic please. Its getting difficult to follow.

I'm guessing we won't see Whitney from Houston until the Cardinals game at the earliest.
Yeah that makes sense. He’d have essentially 2 weeks practice, which while minimal, could be enough to get a seasoned veteran involved. I think AZ is a good hypothesis for his debut.

I’m really hoping we can find a way to get our best talent out their simultaneously. Having some passing downs sending Clark, Mercilus, Gary, Preston all simultaneously is formidable. Can’t wait to see him in action. Merciless is a unique blend of power and speed. Similar but yet different from Garys’ attributes. We suddenly have THREE Day 1 selections in that front group.
 
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Good opportunity. Even if it is for a year or two. At least the Pack is trying. This rarely happened with Thompson in mid stride. Look at Peppers. He was past 30 and he gave us a few very good years. I think this signals that Z is likely done. And even if he returns he will not be 100 per cent and it could be mid-January.

I don't think the Packers signing Mercilus indicates Z is done for the season but strongly suggests the team was in need of an upgrade at the position now.

2) Tag and trade

The Packers most likely won't have the cap space available to tag Adams.
 

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Big weapons are nice, but I guess losing Adams would encourage Love to throw the ball around more. I'm guessing Adams follows Rodgers if possible.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of losing Rodgers, QBs are playing longer these days, the rules keep them healthier. But if we can get a bundle for him (unlike with Favre), it would ease the pain.
Reallisticly a new team prob only does a short contract. Would Adams follow just for that? He would be in same spot as he is now.
 

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