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I'll be surprised if they use their 2nd round pick on an OC.

CB and DT are much bigger needs. I'm hoping Gluten can find some first-tier FAs at CB, DT, and/or OL - in that order. That would certainly impact the draft.
Gute has proven he'll take a center high and if we cut Jenkins one would argue we have a much bigger hole there than we had when we draft Myers in the second.

I am not defending the logic, but don't let yourself be surprised by it - as it isn't something that is atypical in Gute's time here.
 

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Gute has proven he'll take a center high and if we cut Jenkins one would argue we have a much bigger hole there than we had when we draft Myers in the second.

I am not defending the logic, but don't let yourself be surprised by it - as it isn't something that is atypical in Gute's time here.
Gluten surprising us on draft day - yes, that has happened before!

I get your point though, as well as Old School's initial comment. Certainly OL (including OC), CB, and DT are the primary needs in the offseason. Out of the three I think CB is the most critical to address. There are other needs, but these three top my list. And there are different routes he can take - FA, draft, trade, even the waiver wire.

Meyers is a good example and I think Linsley was taken early in the draft as well. Whether it's Rhyan or someone else, the team needs stability at C. That's one thing Favre and Rodgers bth enjoyed.

He could very well find a CB and DT in FA and have an OC or OL at the top of his board when pick #52 rolls around, or vice versa. And if it is an OL who has played significant snaps at OC, or who otherwise shows versatility on the OL, well Gluten loves those guys.
 
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I'll be surprised if they use their 2nd round pick on an OC.

CB and DT are much bigger needs. I'm hoping Gluten can find some first-tier FAs at CB, DT, and/or OL - in that order. That would certainly impact the draft.
See, I don’t have CB as our #1 need. I’d put it behind DT at minimum. I do think we should get a CB with 1 of our 1st THREE selections.

Free Agency can alleviate this but as of now we have a trio of Free Agents on OL. My order of need looks like this.

1. DT
2. OL
3. CB

Center has to be a major concern after losing Elgton mid season and his contract being obstructive.
 
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I'd like the Packers to keep Quay but it sounds like chances are he's going to walk?
Agreed Expat. I thought Walker's play improved when Hafley came in, and that's because Hafley played guys according to their strengths. Walker will never be an All Pro, but when he plays to his strengths, he's v good. That said, sounds like he won't be back.
 

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See, I don’t have CB as our #1 need. I’d put it behind DT at minimum. I do think we should get a CB with 1 of our 1st THREE selections.

Free Agency can alleviate this but as of now we have a trio of Free Agents on OL. My order of need looks like this.

1. DT
2. OL
3. CB

Center has to be a major concern after losing Elgton mid season and his contract being obstructive.
Agree to disagree on the state of the Packers CB group. IMO, they don't have a CB who would start anywhere else - or very few places. Nixon and Valentine are backup-quality CBs. If the Packers are in a SB window, the CB group has to improve. The good news is that a healthy Parsons makes the job of the CBs easier. Well, he makes the jobs of all the D players easier.

I think Gluten will find a starting CB in the first tier of FA (if there is one to be had). Then he can address DT and OL(C) in the draft, or with another FA signing.

I do agree with you that OL is a top 3 priority. I didn't realize just how spotty the OL had been until the season was over.
 

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Quay walks LB is EASILY defendable IMO to be on par as "need" as the CB room.
Hey Ty need a clarification. Are you saying if Quay leaves then LB becomes a priority on par with CB?

I agree that Quay leaving creates a big talent gap at LB. The Packers have put together a "swarming" D and that requires athletic and fast LBs. Quay filled that role. So yeah there will be a need to backfill.
 
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Hey Ty need a clarification. Are you saying if Quay leaves then LB becomes a priority on par with CB?

I agree that Quay leaving creates a big talent gap at LB. The Packers have put together a "swarming" D and that requires athletic and fast LBs. Quay filled that role. So yeah there will be a need to backfill.

Precisely what I mean - wouldn't be shocked if LB is our first pick if Quay walks...not saying it is a must but I could easily see it.
 
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I'd like the Packers to keep Quay but it sounds like chances are he's going to walk?

Allocation of resources vs positional value and likelihood of replacement. I put Quay at #2 slot of our UFAs that I think weighing all things impacts our ability to work towards best team in 2026. That isn't to say we should spend the money though for him.
 

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Precisely what I mean - wouldn't be shocked if LB is our first pick if Quay walks...not saying it is a must but I could easily see it.
Certainly a possibility based on talent levels at our pick. DT or LB seem likely to have value. A CB may have to drop to be a value at our 2nd. There are some interesting LBs who should be there who are on the small but are very fast and aggressive and could be a great upgrade.

What we dont know is what Gannons defense is going to look like and how often 3 LBs will be on the field. With Cooper taking one spot we have a serviceable McDuffie and a wildcard in Hopper. Certainly we should add to that if Quay is gone, and i have a feeling some other team will pay him more than he is worth.
 

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Allocation of resources vs positional value and likelihood of replacement. I put Quay at #2 slot of our UFAs that I think weighing all things impacts our ability to work towards best team in 2026. That isn't to say we should spend the money though for him.
Who do you have at #1? Doubs?
 
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And that is crazy hard to not say Doubs…but we drafted Golden and Savion, plus have Watson, Reed, Wicks and Melton
 
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@Pkrjones lol I see the reaction. I’ve articulated it in pieces but please don’t conflate that with me believing he is the best UFA we have. I would actually place four others clearly over him and another similar level.
 

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Rhyan has been "serviceable" but average. Why would we consider bringing him back (for an estimated $6+mil/yr) when we let our "average" 3 year starting OC (Myers) walk away for $2mil deal a year ago?
I don't think so much about the money. Why do we want an average shmo playing for us unless it's 2nd string
 
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Rhyan has been "serviceable" but average. Why would we consider bringing him back (for an estimated $6+mil/yr) when we let our "average" 3 year starting OC (Myers) walk away for $2mil deal a year ago?

As the original post stated it comes with a lot of variables for the reason I say he makes the most sense from but first it operates with the assumptions we all are correct Jenkins is released - if that doesn’t happen he immediately isn’t first.

Both of his positions he offers serviceable and starting experience we are thin at but especially center.

Rasheed isn’t above him because we have a plethora of Tackles on our roster from Morgan to Tom to Belton or Kinnard (if tendered cheap). Also he would cost a TON of money being a LT, not best considering roster structure and allocation of funds.

Doubs I want desperately to say but again fiscal allocations invested into a position where we have Watson, Reed, Wicks, Golden and Savion (even Melton)…signing Doubs immediately would be a misuse of funds which sucks cuz I love him. If we did Reed needs traded asap to cover bigger needs.

Quay to me is the closest to Rhyan from a roster construction and value BUT we have Cooper and McDuffie who has been awesome since signing his extension. Hopper and Jamon are wildcards that show promise…

Rhyan is the only potential center, every other pending FA we have an answer for their departure (of varying degrees)

Rhyan is not going to cost a ton, likely can be signed to a two year deal that easily is a one if you find the center of the future in draft or play out the contract again at not a high cost.

I begrudgingly see him as the most beneficial when you consider roster construction and fiscal allocations
 
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Enagbare given Parsons injury and Gary decline could be argued even over Quay truthfully.
See I like Enagbare. I have him a smidge behind a Preston Smith type player. Yet JJ might be a value signing. He’s average, but an in-system, plug n play Edge.

I still don’t know what to think of where Cox Jr fits. Is his injury serious? He was one of the hottest Defenders we had down the late 2024 stretch. If Brenton Cox is medically sound? I think he’s very similar to Enagbare and maybe a higher ceiling.

Then we’d have Oliver and Sorrell. It’s not like The Packers don’t have options. They can start with Lukas opposite Gary. Then I’d either keep 1 of Enagbare or Cox Jr as a backup. Then we have Sorrell, Colin Oliver also.
 

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And that is crazy hard to not say Doubs…but we drafted Golden and Savion, plus have Watson, Reed, Wicks and Melton
No I get your point. If WR wasn't such a strong position, Doubs would be getting an extension.

I still hate to see him leave. He's a v good receiver, great route running, great hands. But with Watson, Reed, and Golden as the staring WRs, and Golden on a rookie deal for a while yet, there just wasn't a place for Doubs. And then Williams and Wicks as backups, the WR group looks good.
 
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No I get your point. If WR wasn't such a strong position, Doubs would be getting an extension.

I still hate to see him leave. He's a v good receiver, great route running, great hands. But with Watson, Reed, and Golden as the staring WRs, and Golden on a rookie deal for a while yet, there just wasn't a place for Doubs. And then Williams and Wicks as backups, the WR group looks good.

Now truthfully let's say we live in a world Doubs does sign. That forces me to another place I don't like but think we need to do and that is trade Reed. Golden and Savion both do or can offer replacement role for him and it would provide immediate equity return (likely in that late third) or a 4th and 7th type deal cuz he is a solid WR and proven...someone would want him.

Not a world I envision happening...but still.
 

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Won't be re-signing Doubs, too many other "mouths to feed". Kraft is about to become the highest paid TE with a 4yr/$80mil deal. Watson should soon be getting a 4yr/$125-$130mil deal.

Love his play over last 3 years, but greener ($$$) pastures elsewhere.
 

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