Transfer portal and NIL Money, how they have changed college sports".

[Pokerbrat2000]

Most of what is written in here is "opinion". If all people want to read are "facts", a Green Bay Packer Forum such as this, is probably not the place to be.

As far as what I posted, CBS and many other media sources are "talking about it."

Inside Donald Trump's push to fix college sports: How it began and what we know going forward

Insight into what Trump's presidential commission on college sports, which includes Nick Saban, is looking to accomplish

www.cbssports.com

Trump’s involvement in plans for college sports commission could shape the future of industry

President Donald Trump’s involvement in helping change college athletics is a landmark moment in college athletics history -- the country’s most powerful elected leader potentially shaping the future of the industry.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Report: President Trump plans to create college sports commission

Will the players have a real voice in efforts to "fix" college sports?

www.nbcsports.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-college-athlete-payments.html

 

[Voyageur]

I was talking to a friend who is associated with one of the big-time Texas college football programs, and we were discussion a guy who has a lot of NFL potential. I asked him why the guy didn't opt for the drat this year, because he was eligible. He told me that it would have cost him money. He'd probably go in about the 4th round and he's making more in college than what that pays. He also mentioned that you just don't know if you'll slip down in the draft either. If you do, you could lose millions in just one year.

One look at the Manning NIL money at the University of Texas tells the story. Manning is getting somewhere around $6 mill a year out of endorsements while in college. He'd be crazy to even consider the NFL at any point before his eligibility is used up, unless the gets a feel that he's going to go #1 in a draft.

The bean counters are turning going into the pros a financial let down to the top players.

 

[gopkrs]

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

 

[Voyageur]

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

It's strange how it works. Twenty-five years ago, the NCAA came down on the Wisconsin football program because players got an "unpublished discount" on shoes at a store. It almost led to the school being forced to forfeit at least one game. Now, here we are, and players are getting deals to advertise everything, and attend barbecues in a big donor's back yard.

NCAA suspends 26 Wisconsin players

MADISON, Wis. -- The NCAA suspended 26 Wisconsin football players Thursday for one to three games for receiving unadvertised discounts at a shoe store, forcing the Badgers to bench 11 players for the…

www.theledger.com

 

[gopkrs]

Things change fast

 

[Heyjoe4]

It's strange how it works. Twenty-five years ago, the NCAA came down on the Wisconsin football program because players got an "unpublished discount" on shoes at a store. It almost led to the school being forced to forfeit at least one game. Now, here we are, and players are getting deals to advertise everything, and attend barbecues in a big donor's back yard.

NCAA suspends 26 Wisconsin players

MADISON, Wis. -- The NCAA suspended 26 Wisconsin football players Thursday for one to three games for receiving unadvertised discounts at a shoe store, forcing the Badgers to bench 11 players for the…

www.theledger.com

Yikes. Benching players for getting a few bucks off shoes. Times have changed......

 

[OldSchool101]

Most of what is written in here is "opinion". If all people want to read are "facts", a Green Bay Packer Forum such as this, is probably not the place to be.

As far as what I posted, CBS and many other media sources are "talking about it."

Inside Donald Trump's push to fix college sports: How it began and what we know going forward

Insight into what Trump's presidential commission on college sports, which includes Nick Saban, is looking to accomplish

www.cbssports.com

Trump’s involvement in plans for college sports commission could shape the future of industry

President Donald Trump’s involvement in helping change college athletics is a landmark moment in college athletics history -- the country’s most powerful elected leader potentially shaping the future of the industry.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Report: President Trump plans to create college sports commission

Will the players have a real voice in efforts to "fix" college sports?

www.nbcsports.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-college-athlete-payments.html

CBS? NYtimes? well that’s not a strong argument of reliability! To each his own I’d just caution absorbing too much stuff that’s unsubstantiated becomes harmful.
Generally if you see a pattern from a source whereas they have zero positive material to say about a person or entity.. meaning its topic is 100% positioning it’s not edifying and highly unlikely that it’s accurate. You and I both took Labs at University level.
The first thing they teach is Blues are a positive outcome, 3 tries being a minimal standard the other thing you learn away from the names of apparatus’ Beakers, Flasks your heating Mantle etc.@Pokerbrat2000 is to ensure the experiment is not compromised or contaminated. If so it’s not the fun path, but it’s just best to toss the whole batch. Or for my Christian Brothers and Sisters, a little leavening leavens the whole loaf!

Btw when we ficus on something enough, it becomes our new reality. It’s why we need to be vigilant about what we consume. Your catch phrase about opinions says it all!

One way NIL has changed college sports is athletes are going to follow the trail of $$$. They gain momentum just look at where U of Colorado has gone. A few years ago they were ranked 35th in average NIL $$. Last I saw they were #4

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I was talking to a friend who is associated with one of the big-time Texas college football programs, and we were discussion a guy who has a lot of NFL potential. I asked him why the guy didn't opt for the drat this year, because he was eligible. He told me that it would have cost him money. He'd probably go in about the 4th round and he's making more in college than what that pays. He also mentioned that you just don't know if you'll slip down in the draft either. If you do, you could lose millions in just one year.

One look at the Manning NIL money at the University of Texas tells the story. Manning is getting somewhere around $6 mill a year out of endorsements while in college. He'd be crazy to even consider the NFL at any point before his eligibility is used up, unless the gets a feel that he's going to go #1 in a draft.

The bean counters are turning going into the pros a financial let down to the top players.

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

Things change fast

Money changes everything for many.

They aren't staying in school, to "further their education". They are staying in school to further their bank accounts.

I said it a few weeks ago. With the amount of NIL money getting coughed up on the rise, the NCAA may just decide to change eligibility limits. Allowing "grad students, TA's, professors, janitors".....basically anyone affiliated with the school, unlimited eligibility.

36 year olds playing at the NCAA level? Don't laugh, 50 years ago who would have thunk that Pro's would be playing in the Olympics.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

CBS? NYtimes? well that’s not a strong argument of reliability! To each his own I’d just caution absorbing too much stuff that’s unsubstantiated becomes harmful.

It isn't just speculations and opinions, there has been conversations about a government committee being put together to influence changes in college sports. Will it happen? Who knows, but a year ago I never thought people would get yanked off the streets and shipped off to prisons in other countries, with no due process.

 

[Voyageur]

There's been a lot of talk since day one of the NIL situation about a federal government sponsored team to look into the issue. It hasn't gotten traction because it's been viewed by so many as being an issue of states' rights to decide the issue on their own. This can be good, and bad, at the same time. Good if they can come up with an amicable agreement that all states and schools can accept, and bad if it's a lopsided decision based on more powerful conferences controlling the decision and putting themselves far above the rest.

The issue should not be put in the hands of a government appointed commission, but in an unbiased commission that's determined by independents far removed from the government and the schools and states themselves. That may sound difficult, but it isn't really, because there are those knowledgeable people who can help resolve the issue.

As all of you know, I saw it firsthand from day one at the University of Texas. The money that was put on the table from the start was phenomenal. On day one, there was a $50k offer out there for all offensive linemen who were part of the team. It went up from there. Arch Manning's $6 mill a year is an obvious reason he's not in any rush to end up in the NFL, unless he sees a bigger paycheck from day one. For Manning, if he isn't picked in the top 12, he's taking a cut in pay, and that's going to be on the table for at least 4 years. Losing $2 or $3 mill a year isn't something most would do, risking killing their own income.

So, the next question is, how much of the NIL money they're getting ends up carrying over into when they become pros? For some, it's the majority of it, but for the majority of the players, it's really not going to be that much. Not everyone has international sponsorship like Caitlin Clark did while in college or has as much impact in a sport as she has in the WNBA. Once again, this is all something that the bean counters these kids hire figures out what the best scenario is for each kid.

The University of Wisconsin has that issue right now with a basketball player. John Blackwell. He's put his name into the NBA pool so he could attend the NBA camps but hasn't got a read yet at how high up in the draft he'd go if he decided to go pro. It's about the money regardless of what anyone says. If he's not guaranteed to make more than he does at Wisconsin, he might opt out of the draft, and stay at Wisconsin, or even put his name in the portal for a better NIL deal elsewhere. I understand his reasoning, because protecting your own future and income far exceeds the question of where you play the game. You do it for the paycheck if you're essentially a pro, and in reality, the better college athletes are already pros in respect to being paid for play.

This issue won't be resolved overnight. It's going to take time, and before it's over, the courts are going to be deeply involved, and litigation is going to go on for years. The only ones making big bucks off the investigation will be the attorneys.

 

[gopkrs]

I'd imagine there are economic purists who would ask why it needs to be governed at all. After all, in many ways, we have an economically based morality.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'd imagine there are economic purists who would ask why it needs to be governed at all. After all, in many ways, we have an economically based morality.

That's an interesting/thoughtful point. If it's a given that student athletes can be paid for $$$ generated by their NIL, and there is no cost to the university (which would be like a tax on other students), then yeah NIL doesn't need regulation and should not be regulated.

The same argument is often made for dismantling all regulations. Of course that also makes the (unbelievable) assumption that we all (individuals, companies, the government) act in the best interests of all. That would be nice, but probably unattainable.

Anyway, you brought up a good point in defense of not regulating NIL. I agree with that.

 

[gopkrs]

Well, I wasn't really making a defense. The important part, imho, is that our society has a moral compass, in very many (too many) instances, swayed by economics. Not by right or wrong.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I view NCAA Sports as a very large free market business. One that the government has no business poking their noses into, trying to regulate its procedures in regards to the Transfer Portal, structure and operating procedures. Except for the tax ramifications, I feel the same about government involvement in NIL money.

Why should tax payer dollars be spent fixing the NCAA? They created their own problem, let them try to fix it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well, I wasn't really making a defense. The important part, imho, is that our society has a moral compass, in very many (too many) instances, swayed by economics. Not by right or wrong.

Agree.

If people think that the "Congressman from Texas" or "The Senator from Florida", knows what is "best" for NCAA Sports, they need to rethink how the United States Government is now run. One of the last things I want thrown onto the tax payers plate, is paying for the regulation of a billion+ dollar industry that is run off of sheer greed.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

A few months ago I touched on the fact that the current administration is talking about getting involved in the governing of College Sports. A few of you scoffed at the idea.

Well, now there is talk of getting involved in the NFL. Threats that if the Commanders don't change their name back to ********, their new stadium deal might be shut down.

So much for the party that constantly preaches about "less government involvement".

President Donald Trump threatens to shut down Commanders' NFL stadium deal unless team reverts to old name

The franchise is in the process of trying to get a $3.7 billion stadium complex built in D.C

www.cbssports.com

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So it appears that the going price for a top QB in the Portal is over $4M.

"SiriusXM’s Rick Neuhiesel reported that Sorsby has drawn multiple offers exceeding $4 million, underscoring how aggressively programs are investing in proven quarterbacks."

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Top transfer portal QB reportedly receives ‘multiple offers’ over $4 million

Cincinnati quarterback Brendan Sorsby formally entered the NCAA transfer portal on Monday, setting up one of the most intriguing quarterback pursuits of the off

www.si.com

 

[gopkrs]

Just my opinion of course but these are actually students. The money should be going to the schools to improve education. Even to improve the infrastructure where necesary. Shouldn't be going to players and football.

 

[Pkrjones]

So it appears that the going price for a top QB in the Portal is over $4M.

"SiriusXM’s Rick Neuhiesel reported that Sorsby has drawn multiple offers exceeding $4 million, underscoring how aggressively programs are investing in proven quarterbacks."

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Top transfer portal QB reportedly receives ‘multiple offers’ over $4 million

Cincinnati quarterback Brendan Sorsby formally entered the NCAA transfer portal on Monday, setting up one of the most intriguing quarterback pursuits of the off

www.si.com

No wonder why Hoover from TCU is moving on... that's a healthy payday for 1 year. Unless a kid is an NFL 1st rounder they make more in NIL.

I questioned why Arch Manning wasn't in a hurry to make the jump, but now it's a VERY smart move to stay, get experience, and guarantee that he's a top 1st round selection getting a $50+mil rookie deal.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just my opinion of course but these are actually students. The money should be going to the schools to improve education. Even to improve the infrastructure where necesary. Shouldn't be going to players and football.

While I agree with your sentiment, much of the NIL money comes from outside sources. Sources that only "donate" it, to go specifically to either a named player or program. That money can't be redirected to the college for other things.

The only outside sources of income that is now being used and directly spent on NIL is revenue sharing (emerging)....that is explained below.

"Recent legal settlements, primarily House v. NCAA, have opened the door for US colleges to directly pay student-athletes, starting in the 2025-26 academic year, by sharing revenue from media rights, tickets, and sponsorships, establishing a new compensation model beyond NIL deals, with yearly caps (around $20.5M for 2025-26) set to increase, creating direct, taxable income streams and financial stability for athletes while reshaping the landscape of college sports."

 

[DoURant]

I used to enjoy College Football... I watched only a couple games this season. This is part of the reason, and they need to get a harness on this transfer portal mess. This was just the first day.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

I used to enjoy College Football... I watched only a couple games this season. This is part of the reason, and they need to get a harness on this transfer portal mess. This was just the first day.

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Now imagine if the NFL had the same rules when it comes to the Transfer Portal, no contracts for any player.

 

[Half Empty]

And no salary cap

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And no salary cap

Yup and I have said that too....but didn't want to confuse people by adding it. I view the not having much in the way of restrictions or transparency of NIL money as "no salary cap" in the NCAA. So the combination of NIL and the Transfer Portal, has basically created the Wild West in NCAA Athletics. It is ugly and honestly, deserved by the NCAA due to its history of greed. I think this time period will be a black eye for years to come.

 

[Half Empty]

Yup and I have said that too....but didn't want to confuse people by adding it. I view the not having much in the way of restrictions or transparency of NIL money as "no salary cap" in the NCAA. So the combination of NIL and the Transfer Portal, has basically created the Wild West in NCAA Athletics. It is ugly and honestly, deserved by the NCAA due to its history of greed. I think this time period will be a black eye for years to come.

The main reason I mentioned it is because, of the two, I think the NFL could live more easily with no contracts than without a cap.