Transfer portal and NIL Money, how they have changed college sports".

[Pokerbrat2000]

Most of what is written in here is "opinion". If all people want to read are "facts", a Green Bay Packer Forum such as this, is probably not the place to be.

As far as what I posted, CBS and many other media sources are "talking about it."

Inside Donald Trump's push to fix college sports: How it began and what we know going forward

Insight into what Trump's presidential commission on college sports, which includes Nick Saban, is looking to accomplish

www.cbssports.com

Trump’s involvement in plans for college sports commission could shape the future of industry

President Donald Trump’s involvement in helping change college athletics is a landmark moment in college athletics history -- the country’s most powerful elected leader potentially shaping the future of the industry.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Report: President Trump plans to create college sports commission

Will the players have a real voice in efforts to "fix" college sports?

www.nbcsports.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-college-athlete-payments.html

 

[Voyageur]

I was talking to a friend who is associated with one of the big-time Texas college football programs, and we were discussion a guy who has a lot of NFL potential. I asked him why the guy didn't opt for the drat this year, because he was eligible. He told me that it would have cost him money. He'd probably go in about the 4th round and he's making more in college than what that pays. He also mentioned that you just don't know if you'll slip down in the draft either. If you do, you could lose millions in just one year.

One look at the Manning NIL money at the University of Texas tells the story. Manning is getting somewhere around $6 mill a year out of endorsements while in college. He'd be crazy to even consider the NFL at any point before his eligibility is used up, unless the gets a feel that he's going to go #1 in a draft.

The bean counters are turning going into the pros a financial let down to the top players.

 

[gopkrs]

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

 

[Voyageur]

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

It's strange how it works. Twenty-five years ago, the NCAA came down on the Wisconsin football program because players got an "unpublished discount" on shoes at a store. It almost led to the school being forced to forfeit at least one game. Now, here we are, and players are getting deals to advertise everything, and attend barbecues in a big donor's back yard.

NCAA suspends 26 Wisconsin players

MADISON, Wis. -- The NCAA suspended 26 Wisconsin football players Thursday for one to three games for receiving unadvertised discounts at a shoe store, forcing the Badgers to bench 11 players for the…

www.theledger.com

 

[gopkrs]

Things change fast

 

[Heyjoe4]

It's strange how it works. Twenty-five years ago, the NCAA came down on the Wisconsin football program because players got an "unpublished discount" on shoes at a store. It almost led to the school being forced to forfeit at least one game. Now, here we are, and players are getting deals to advertise everything, and attend barbecues in a big donor's back yard.

NCAA suspends 26 Wisconsin players

MADISON, Wis. -- The NCAA suspended 26 Wisconsin football players Thursday for one to three games for receiving unadvertised discounts at a shoe store, forcing the Badgers to bench 11 players for the…

www.theledger.com

Yikes. Benching players for getting a few bucks off shoes. Times have changed......

 

[OldSchool101]

Most of what is written in here is "opinion". If all people want to read are "facts", a Green Bay Packer Forum such as this, is probably not the place to be.

As far as what I posted, CBS and many other media sources are "talking about it."

Inside Donald Trump's push to fix college sports: How it began and what we know going forward

Insight into what Trump's presidential commission on college sports, which includes Nick Saban, is looking to accomplish

www.cbssports.com

Trump’s involvement in plans for college sports commission could shape the future of industry

President Donald Trump’s involvement in helping change college athletics is a landmark moment in college athletics history -- the country’s most powerful elected leader potentially shaping the future of the industry.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Report: President Trump plans to create college sports commission

Will the players have a real voice in efforts to "fix" college sports?

www.nbcsports.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-college-athlete-payments.html

CBS? NYtimes? well that’s not a strong argument of reliability! To each his own I’d just caution absorbing too much stuff that’s unsubstantiated becomes harmful.
Generally if you see a pattern from a source whereas they have zero positive material to say about a person or entity.. meaning its topic is 100% positioning it’s not edifying and highly unlikely that it’s accurate. You and I both took Labs at University level.
The first thing they teach is Blues are a positive outcome, 3 tries being a minimal standard the other thing you learn away from the names of apparatus’ Beakers, Flasks your heating Mantle etc.@Pokerbrat2000 is to ensure the experiment is not compromised or contaminated. If so it’s not the fun path, but it’s just best to toss the whole batch. Or for my Christian Brothers and Sisters, a little leavening leavens the whole loaf!

Btw when we ficus on something enough, it becomes our new reality. It’s why we need to be vigilant about what we consume. Your catch phrase about opinions says it all!

One way NIL has changed college sports is athletes are going to follow the trail of $$$. They gain momentum just look at where U of Colorado has gone. A few years ago they were ranked 35th in average NIL $$. Last I saw they were #4

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I was talking to a friend who is associated with one of the big-time Texas college football programs, and we were discussion a guy who has a lot of NFL potential. I asked him why the guy didn't opt for the drat this year, because he was eligible. He told me that it would have cost him money. He'd probably go in about the 4th round and he's making more in college than what that pays. He also mentioned that you just don't know if you'll slip down in the draft either. If you do, you could lose millions in just one year.

One look at the Manning NIL money at the University of Texas tells the story. Manning is getting somewhere around $6 mill a year out of endorsements while in college. He'd be crazy to even consider the NFL at any point before his eligibility is used up, unless the gets a feel that he's going to go #1 in a draft.

The bean counters are turning going into the pros a financial let down to the top players.

I guess that's a good thing. It keeps them in school.

Things change fast

Money changes everything for many.

They aren't staying in school, to "further their education". They are staying in school to further their bank accounts.

I said it a few weeks ago. With the amount of NIL money getting coughed up on the rise, the NCAA may just decide to change eligibility limits. Allowing "grad students, TA's, professors, janitors".....basically anyone affiliated with the school, unlimited eligibility.

36 year olds playing at the NCAA level? Don't laugh, 50 years ago who would have thunk that Pro's would be playing in the Olympics.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

CBS? NYtimes? well that’s not a strong argument of reliability! To each his own I’d just caution absorbing too much stuff that’s unsubstantiated becomes harmful.

It isn't just speculations and opinions, there has been conversations about a government committee being put together to influence changes in college sports. Will it happen? Who knows, but a year ago I never thought people would get yanked off the streets and shipped off to prisons in other countries, with no due process.

 

[Voyageur]

There's been a lot of talk since day one of the NIL situation about a federal government sponsored team to look into the issue. It hasn't gotten traction because it's been viewed by so many as being an issue of states' rights to decide the issue on their own. This can be good, and bad, at the same time. Good if they can come up with an amicable agreement that all states and schools can accept, and bad if it's a lopsided decision based on more powerful conferences controlling the decision and putting themselves far above the rest.

The issue should not be put in the hands of a government appointed commission, but in an unbiased commission that's determined by independents far removed from the government and the schools and states themselves. That may sound difficult, but it isn't really, because there are those knowledgeable people who can help resolve the issue.

As all of you know, I saw it firsthand from day one at the University of Texas. The money that was put on the table from the start was phenomenal. On day one, there was a $50k offer out there for all offensive linemen who were part of the team. It went up from there. Arch Manning's $6 mill a year is an obvious reason he's not in any rush to end up in the NFL, unless he sees a bigger paycheck from day one. For Manning, if he isn't picked in the top 12, he's taking a cut in pay, and that's going to be on the table for at least 4 years. Losing $2 or $3 mill a year isn't something most would do, risking killing their own income.

So, the next question is, how much of the NIL money they're getting ends up carrying over into when they become pros? For some, it's the majority of it, but for the majority of the players, it's really not going to be that much. Not everyone has international sponsorship like Caitlin Clark did while in college or has as much impact in a sport as she has in the WNBA. Once again, this is all something that the bean counters these kids hire figures out what the best scenario is for each kid.

The University of Wisconsin has that issue right now with a basketball player. John Blackwell. He's put his name into the NBA pool so he could attend the NBA camps but hasn't got a read yet at how high up in the draft he'd go if he decided to go pro. It's about the money regardless of what anyone says. If he's not guaranteed to make more than he does at Wisconsin, he might opt out of the draft, and stay at Wisconsin, or even put his name in the portal for a better NIL deal elsewhere. I understand his reasoning, because protecting your own future and income far exceeds the question of where you play the game. You do it for the paycheck if you're essentially a pro, and in reality, the better college athletes are already pros in respect to being paid for play.

This issue won't be resolved overnight. It's going to take time, and before it's over, the courts are going to be deeply involved, and litigation is going to go on for years. The only ones making big bucks off the investigation will be the attorneys.

 

[gopkrs]

I'd imagine there are economic purists who would ask why it needs to be governed at all. After all, in many ways, we have an economically based morality.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I'd imagine there are economic purists who would ask why it needs to be governed at all. After all, in many ways, we have an economically based morality.

That's an interesting/thoughtful point. If it's a given that student athletes can be paid for $$$ generated by their NIL, and there is no cost to the university (which would be like a tax on other students), then yeah NIL doesn't need regulation and should not be regulated.

The same argument is often made for dismantling all regulations. Of course that also makes the (unbelievable) assumption that we all (individuals, companies, the government) act in the best interests of all. That would be nice, but probably unattainable.

Anyway, you brought up a good point in defense of not regulating NIL. I agree with that.

 

[gopkrs]

Well, I wasn't really making a defense. The important part, imho, is that our society has a moral compass, in very many (too many) instances, swayed by economics. Not by right or wrong.