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Orange vs McClellan will be interesting to watch.
McClellan can be moved around the line depending on run/pass situation, whereas Orange is NT only on run downs. Gute LOVES position flexibility.Orange vs McClellan will be interesting to watch.
Yup. Those are the little nuances that come out, at least for me, after the actual picks are made. "Big Citrus" seemed to be a popular name with Packer fans, but like you said, McClellan was the guy Gute wanted and a lot of that had to do with the ability to move him around the defensive line.McClellan can be moved around the line depending on run/pass situation, whereas Orange is NT only on run downs. Gute LOVES position flexibility.
So you already know who will be the better player?McClellan can be moved around the line depending on run/pass situation, whereas Orange is NT only on run downs. Gute LOVES position flexibility.
So you already know who will be the better player?
Or . . .Obviously, since Gute could have drafted either player, he felt McClellan was the better player/fit for the Packers. Who ends up being the "better" player, we may not know for several years.
You can't tell how Orange would have done for the Packers because he would have been not used in the same manner he will with the Vikings.

This was a tough Draft. Partly because we only had 6 chances and anyone picking in RD7 like me went south. Often times it’s RD7 that wins because it’s 10 points for 1 correct pick.Congrats to DoURant with 11pts
Todd Princl with 8 pts.
Tyni and Poker had 3 pts
The rest of us? Nothing!
Please let me know if I missed anything.
I’m convinced McClellan is a higher valued player. I think Orange is a guy you take RD4 if you have a pair of 4ths. He’s really leaving 2-down player.So you already know who will be the better player?
McClellan has the potential to be a 3 down player, due to his pass rush ability. Orange didn't show any pass rush in college, so unless he completely flips that script, he will be relegated to being only a rotational piece.I’m convinced McClellan is a higher valued player. I think Orange is a guy you take RD4 if you have a pair of 4ths. He’s really leaving 2-down player.
Chris McClellan just crushed Orange in output. Chris tally looks like a Top 50 player and Orange like a Top 125 when you look at their profiles.
Just like the hammer was only a weapon of war until someone used it to drive a nail?McClellan has the potential to be a 3 down player, due to his pass rush ability. Orange didn't show any pass rush in college, so unless he completely flips that script, he will be relegated to being only a rotational piece.
That's a good catch Pkr. McLellan reminds me of Raji more so than Orange. Now that I think of it, Raji was the last truly great NT in GB. I may be missing something, but I recall Raji was an excellent NT playing run or pass.McClellan can be moved around the line depending on run/pass situation, whereas Orange is NT only on run downs. Gute LOVES position flexibility.
That's why Gluten moved up to make sure he got McLellan. The iDL needs to get better at pressuring the QB. The addition of Hargrave helps, Wyatt is already pretty good at it, and I expect McLellan will get significant snaps as a rookie, given his versatility.McClellan has the potential to be a 3 down player, due to his pass rush ability. Orange didn't show any pass rush in college, so unless he completely flips that script, he will be relegated to being only a rotational piece.
I'm always curious how a GM knows, or maybe just feels it in his bones, that a guy he likes won't be around in, say 5 or 10 picks and trades up.Or . . .
You can't tell how Orange would have done for the Packers because he would have been not used in the same manner he will with the Vikings.
I did hear a report that the Viking staff looked upset when the Packers took McClellan. I did not see the video and can't confirm, but my thinking is the Packers knew another team would take him before their pick. 2 DTs ended up going so . .
I'm always curious how a GM knows, or maybe just feels it in his bones, that a guy he likes won't be around in, say 5 or 10 picks and trades up.
We have a book on Gute. We look for high RAS guys with certain body constraints. Top 30 visits are likely genuine interest. There are 2 other elements with medical and personality that other GMs may see some tendencies.I'm always curious how a GM knows, or maybe just feels it in his bones, that a guy he likes won't be around in, say 5 or 10 picks and trades up.
I don't think it's terribly expensive to move up 5 to 10 spots, especially in later rounds. Anyway, it was a good call by Gluten. McLellan certainly has more versatility than Orange.
It would be interesting, fun and intense to hold a "Live draft contest". Basically, everyone playing has to be online during the draft. The object would be to guess who the Packers will select with their next pick. We would all be on the clock before the Packers pick is announced.If we knew how the draft was going to fall, most of us would have had the Cisse and DDS picks correct. And the NFL GMs know much more than we do.
You have my approval and I am happy to do you this favor.It would be interesting, fun and intense to hold a "Live draft contest". Basically, everyone playing has to be online during the draft. The object would be to guess who the Packers will select with their next pick. We would all be on the clock before the Packers pick is announced.
Obviously, any such draft would have to get the approval of the Amish Mafia.
On one of the boards I was on (maybe a national Rivals type board or something) but first come-first serve is we'd have 1 person draft for each NFL team. This wouldn't be live, but we'd start drafting like the week before the actual draft and see how it would come out. Usually you'd have a person who was a fan/knew that particular NFL team very well. It was quite fun.It would be interesting, fun and intense to hold a "Live draft contest". Basically, everyone playing has to be online during the draft. The object would be to guess who the Packers will select with their next pick. We would all be on the clock before the Packers pick is announced.
Obviously, any such draft would have to get the approval of the Amish Mafia.
Run it as a separate contest, with prizes for correct guesses. Events like this is when I miss the shoutbox.It would be interesting, fun and intense to hold a "Live draft contest". Basically, everyone playing has to be online during the draft. The object would be to guess who the Packers will select with their next pick. We would all be on the clock before the Packers pick is announced.
Obviously, any such draft would have to get the approval of the Amish Mafia.
with prizes for correct guesses
You did nail 2 guys we signed as UDFA's, Quinn, and KellyGrabbing my place on the 1st page
2. Lee Hunter -DT - Texas Tech
3. Julian Neal - CB - Arkansas
3. Domonique Orange - DT - Iowa State
3. Ted Hurst - WR - Georgia State
4. Brian Parker - OL - Duke
5. Sam Roush - TE - Stanford
5. Kaelon Black - RB - Indiana
5. Jamari Taylor - RB - Virginia
5. Taylen Green - QB - Arkansas
5. Diego Pounds - OT - Mississippi
5. Demonte Capehart - DL - Clemson
6. Jordan Vanden Berg - DT - Georgia Tech
7. Nyjalik Kelly - Edge - Central Florida
7. Enrique Cruz - T - Kansas
7. Michael Heldman - Edge - Central Michigan
7. Jaden Dugger - LB - Louisiana
7. Hezekiah Masses - CB - California
7. Thadeus Dixon - CB - North Carolina
7. TJ Quinn - LB - Louisville
7. Anthony Smith - WR - East Carolina