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Seriously, what is wrong with our run game?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by PackFaninBucLand, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. gmann001

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    You may want to add to your list, 6) The weather has been great for the passing game.

    No rain and/or crappy conditions, the ball is a easier to catch when its dry... so why not take advantage of that too.
     
  2. dhpackr

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    we are 4-0
     
  3. porky88

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    When we actually run the ball I'll let you know :lol:

    The Packers running game is basically screens and slants. The Short passing game cancels out their poor running game. As long as they do that well then they can continue to have success. When that stumbles so will the team.
     
  4. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Weather hasn't stopped Brett from throwing it well in the past, why would it matter now?
     
  5. PackinSteel

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    Yeah he can throw but we don't really know if these new guys can catch it in "weather" yet do we?

    I wish I had the answer to why we can't/aren't running but I have to say I'm liking the results nonetheless!

    Seems they hand off j u s t enough to keep the defense on it's toes. If so then that is some excellent play calling. Otherwise I'd have expected our 3rd and 4th opponents to have figured out a way to defend a pass on every down. The fact that he's spreading it around (at least 9 different receivers yesterday) seems to be a key.
     
  6. packer4ever

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    Smell the glove christmas tree
     
  7. KGB94SACKEM

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    We can't run the ball. The odds of Brett hitting a screen pass or a short dump off for 3-4 yards is GREATER than Brandon Jackson, Morency, Grant, Wynn or Herron getting that on the ground with our non-existent run blocking.
     
  8. Aytumious

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    I think the absence of Morency has been bigger than most people realize. He really is the most talented RB on the team and the most experienced.

    He looked better to me last year compared to Ahman. I think Morency can have similar success this season once he's back in form.
     
  9. WinnipegPackFan

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    Agreed,

    I saw flashes of major potential out of Morency last year. If we can get the holes open for him again; we could really be smiling soon !!!
     
  10. Anubis

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    Actually, it is ALWAYS the best option. Any running game at all opens up your passing game, and with Brett Favre at QB, that equals a lot of points.

    A strong running game and a good defense wins championships. End of story.
     
  11. dhpackr

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  12. PACKmanN

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    I wrote this somewhere else and Ill put it here, we don't have any good o-line personnel and they are the ones that should be replaced before the running backs go.
     
  13. dhpackr

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    one of the problems lies at LG. This guy is a pancake type blocker like Tauch & Clifton. These guys seem like drive blockers, not athletic guys that pull and create lanes.

    The packers have a west coast offense, not a ZBS. Since Jags left, there has been no ZBS, we are running a west coast offense in the purest form.
     
  14. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    I disagree with the "no good o-line personel", I think they have the talent, it is being mis-used.

    We drafted olineman for the zone system with cut blocking, to date, we are not trying to cut block anyone. Watch the oline, they are comming out of there stance and trying to play too upright, with little to no leverage.

    I have said it before, I don't think we have the coaches with experience to coach the ZBS. Or being the Campen played the game and he has integrity from what I know of him, he probably doesn't want to utilize the cuts. If done incorrectly, they can severly hurt the opposition.

    So we are trying to zone guys off while trying to play upright with 2/3 of the interior lineman undersized and the other lacking upper body strength. Wonder why it isn't working...

    Again, make a couple of adjustments to the blocking scheme, change the mindset a bit, and commit to the run. And production will follow.. we have talent in there, watch the the footwork along with the hand play of the oline.. they have the talent.

    It will come... the D's are starting to soften the inside up and then we shall attack..
     
  15. de_real_deal

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    Word up

    Either replace them or tell them to work out with Shawn Merriman and get on the juice so they can overpower some D-lineman.
     
  16. dhpackr

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    i was not impressed w/Morency sunday.
     
  17. dhpackr

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    I think our o linemen are drive blockers, not cut blockers which is why we are running a west coast offense not a ZBS
     
  18. Pack93z

    Pack93z You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime

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    Exactly my point, we are playing upright in the running game, why not allow them to drive holes open and play with the leverage these interior guys should have.

    Seems to me, that we are stuck in a quasi- Zone / conventional system anyway.. why not commit to one that we have experience in and go.
     
  19. dhpackr

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    I wonder what spitz, or moll could do at LG
     
  20. de_real_deal

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    1 carry, 2 yards. Not much to evaluate him on :)
     
  21. dhpackr

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    he looked real quick on a pass reception, but that was it. i do not know if he got hurt, but i thought we would see more of him.
     
  22. porky88

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    I think Colledge should move to the bench and they should start Spitz and Colston at guard. I think the only way we'll know for sure is if McCarthy calls run plays. It's hard to really grasp our run blocking when we rarely do it.
     

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